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Coolest name EVER! Moocowisi 04:43, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

Edit Warring[]

Stop. --シルバークロノ 03:07, September 6, 2010 (UTC)


Zack BBS Edit.png

Hold on there, bucko.[]

Couple things about that edit summary, etc.

  • Why did you just direct me to a character page? I know who Sephiroth is, thank you very much.
  • "I know you have some sort of beef against Sephiroth" Uh, what? When did I say that? Unless you mean the community as a whole, in which case why not rewrite the entire page?
  • "this is Safer-Sephiroth, who isn't a guy that someone can beat without risk of dying." I felt the strategy was written with overleveled characters in mind, which defeats the point of the strategy. Unless it turns out I have 1337 uberskillZ at that game and don't even know it, which is why I was able to find the battle a joke below level 50. So I'll leave the strategy as it is (that, and neither of us have a clean track record when it comes to edit warring).
  • Why'd you nuke the AI script? And what's more, why'd you mess with the Other Information? That has NOTHING to do with the strategy section. Kelt restored it though.
  • On a much lighter note, cool username! C A T U S E 04:08, February 2, 2012 (UTC)


"685-513=72" - you wanna put that into a calculator, Einstein? Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:40, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Fine, you win. Weedle McHairybug 03:00, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
There is no "win", it is simple math, call up the Calculator on your computer and check it. One of those two dates is wrong, which is it? Doreiku Kuroofangu 03:15, February 8, 2012 (UTC)
I did check the calculator, and my answer was wrong. That's why I said "You win." Wouldn't have said it otherwise. I did the math by hand. I see that was a mistake. Weedle McHairybug 03:18, February 8, 2012 (UTC)

Hell's Gate[]

This has been disproven and reverted several times. Sephiroth's AI isn't programmed to do Hell's Gate on her when she uses Holy, he has to use an HP attack to break Holy's damage priority, it has been reported that if on equal footing he's just as liable to do Octaslash or Hell's Gate. He's programmed to do Hell's Gate no more than his AI has him do Hell's Gate on any other opponent below him. Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:02, September 13, 2012 (UTC)

Wikip link[]

Adding content to articles via hidden links is generally not advised. If we want to state that there was booing involved, then we would state so, not hide it in a link. Also linking to Wikipedia articles is sparse and usually limited on directing user's to more general information about something briefly discussed, such as with Etymology or games out of our scope. 02:58, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

The rule of thumb I use when I link to Wikipedia is that this is something reader might not know what it is/who it is, but it's outside of our scope --> Wikipedia link. Like the Weapon (Final Fantasy VII Creature) article has a Wikipedia link to Kaiju films, as it's perhaps not obvious from context what that means.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 03:06, December 26, 2012 (UTC)
And me personally, I think people will know what it means to boo someone. Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:14, December 26, 2012 (UTC)


For someone who claims they have no desire to view the various nude images for religious reasons, you sure do seem obsessed with them. Doreiku Kuroofangu 04:40, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

If, by obsessed, you mean have a big sense of paranoia about them even existing, then yes, I do have an obsession. The only reason why I even asked DeadlySlashSword+ is because Netherfel effectively requested him, and unless I've really missed any signs of refusal, the situation is still in a loose end. If there was a refusal, I wouldn't have even asked. And yeah, I'm attracted to females. However, this attraction is still lesser than my needing to follow God's will. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 11:44, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
Paranoid? Really? I can think of a few of things that image makes me, annoyed, disgusted, but not paranoid. I'd like to recommend you get some perspective on the issue. It's a single image (two?) of a fictional character, which is to say, a collection of pixels, in an imaginary construct, in a device designed to entertain people. I don't personally care for the image, so I just don't involve myself in the discussion. In three words: get over it. Jimcloud 16:12, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
To be a bit blunt, nobody else is getting so worked up over these images. And why should they? There's things like /b/ or tubgirl, and that's just on the "really disturbing" scale. Things that actually matter -- people selling pot to little kids and then causing them to be addicted and murderous as adults, flooding in the South Pacific because of climate change, starving refugees from North Korea...a nude Vanille is at the bottom of the scale of things that "go against God's will", by which I assume you mean make the world a much worse place to live in. C A T U S E 18:15, February 2, 2013 (UTC)
I'm sure we tried to drop this subject on the forum a few weeks ago. Can we just say, "Nobody cares," and move on now, please? Yes, images exist. Yes, they'll provoke debate, but we've already had our say, can't we wait for people who haven't had a say yet? Until then, I say let it lie, they exist, end of. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 19:23, February 2, 2013 (UTC)

Dude are you really a college student like your Wikia profile says, I thought you must be like 14 or something. Lighten up man. I see it's birthday soon, on Valentine's Day. Nice one.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 19:37, February 2, 2013 (UTC)


May I ask why you're adding a blow-by-blow account of every single spell and attack that is used in the fixed battle against the Emperor in several articles? Also, I've had to undo a few of your edits, the main one being that Ultima was most definitely not a plot point in IX in that Kuja used it to destroy the Crystal. Maybe when he destroyed Terra, yes, but just because he favours a spell doesn't mean it's a plot point. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 16:48, September 15, 2013 (UTC)

  • For the first part, that's because its been ingrained into me that I need to supply all the details for an event that is shown. The concept of "cutting to the chase" is a bit of an anathema to me. As far as Kuja, since it was literally the final spell he used to destroy the crystal, and the entire thing was treated like a cutscene, and it led directly to the final battle, I'm not sure how its not a plot point. It occurred in-story, in other words, in the plot, therefore its a plot point. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:05, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
We don't need extensive details that bloat the article as it then becomes much harder to read.
Also: "In television and film, a plot point is a significant event within a plot that digs into the action and spins it around in another direction. It can also be an object of significant importance, around which the plot revolves. It can be anything from an event to an item to the discovery of a character or motive."
Now yes, Kuja using Ultima was an event. But it didn't exactly spin the plot around completely, it just made Necron appear. I'm aware the definition applied to film and TV but the meaning is the same. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 17:13, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
Okay. So what should we do with the Emperor article? I mean, we can't just not mention the details of their battle, since they literally showed it in a cutscene. We also can't just put it in the Trivia section. It worked with the Dark Emperor page, although only because he was a boss article, not a character, which would require some degree of biographies. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:16, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
Thanks for understanding. I believe your heart is in the right place by giving us information didn't previously have, but it just needs to be narrowed down and simplified to avoid bloating. Can you maybe shorten the use of Flare and Ultima and such to "High level spells," for example? Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 17:23, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
I could shorten the Flare and Ultima to simply saying they were high-level variants of the spells, but I can't just leave out names. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 17:26, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
Seeing as how the Soul of Rebirth auto-battle is not how it goes down at all, just a representation of the battle for convenience's sake, it is completely unnecessary and completely wrong to write a blow-by-blow account of the actual battle in the main storyline with those spells, attacks and every other nitty-gritty detail. The actual battle with the Emperor goes down however the player decides to fight it, and should be left as such. The info should stay as a trivia section on the enemy page for Emperor, and that's about it. I am reminded of the situation where Fran uses Shatterheart to defeat Firemane in the FFXII manga, and this info, rather than be put in the actual main info on Firemane, is relegated to a trivia section, as it should be. It's trivia, nothing more. Espritduo (talk) 19:44, September 15, 2013 (UTC)
Wouldn't they have them do the battle scene completely differently each time if that were the case, though? By that, I mean in one playthrough, Leon's turn has him using Excalibur and Sun Blade, and in another playthrough, he uses the Diamond Mace and Blood Sword at the time he previously used the Excalibur and Sun Blade? If I were to do the battle for conveniences sake, I would have made sure each cutscene showing of the battle was randomly generated and thus completely different from the previous and/or next playthrough, not just by hit points issued to the enemy/the party, but also in the spells and weaponry used and even overall actions. So far, the only thing that seems any different between the two playthroughs are the amount of strikes issued by various weapons and HP recovery/deductions, in other words, numeric values. Heck, it doesn't even have to be how to the player does it. But if it is to stay off, then it stays off. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 20:23, September 15, 2013 (UTC)


Please bear in mind that you should not assume a user is going to work on the wiki just because you have demanded it of them. I found your tone towards Fenrir and Kelt to be quite rude, and it upsets me to see this on our site. We as a wiki should work at our own pace and rightfully so, as none of us are paid for the work we contribute and we have real lives away from our computer screens. Both the users you approached do not possess the version of the game you wish to have more information on; you are welcome to work on this yourself, looking online as Fenrir has been doing, but please don't badger other users to do it for you. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 18:50, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

My sincerest apologies. I'll try to ask it in a more polite fashion next time. Weedle McHairybug (talk) 18:52, January 31, 2014 (UTC)
Good to hear. Thanks for the timely response. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 18:55, January 31, 2014 (UTC)

Awesome translation to Apocalypsis Noctis[]

Was hoping for ages someone would translate it!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 10:47, June 18, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks. Someone with more current knowledge of Latin would need to fix it up, though (I mostly had to use an internet translator. While I have in fact done Latin in School, I'm afraid it's been a while since I put them to good use, especially when the schools don't allow me to keep the textbooks). Weedle McHairybug (talk) 12:17, June 18, 2019 (UTC)
Sounds right to me (a person who knows nothing about Latin though)! Knowing any Latin seems impressive to me since they don't really teach it at all in any level where I'm from (but then Finnish is not a Latin-based language).
I so wish we had lyrics for Omnis Lacrima too, I really want to know what it says.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 20:37, June 18, 2019 (UTC)


I just don't think that Gilgamesh and Somnus attacking Ardyn together proves that he had apprentices whose souls were sealed in the Tempering Ground with him, or that the Shield of the King was a position specifically made to protect the Kings from Ardyn. It's a bit of a stretch to say that these are canon. That he was the Shield for Somnus is confirmed though! And the eagle tattoo originates from him, I think that was confirmed somewhere too. The Shield being a position to oppose Ardyn specifically would be a bit weird as canon considering that the prophecy says that the King will defeat him, not the Shield. (When Ardyn attacks Insomnia Clarus doesn't even protect the king from him, Regis deems that he alone can do it.)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 18:54, July 24, 2020 (UTC)