FF6 stuff Edit

Hey, are you still working on the FF6 enemy template stuff? The Captain/Leader page still doesn't display the drop chances, and trying to put in "snes drop 1" and "snes drop 2" just does nothing. There should be no question that the 7/8 and 1/8 numbers are legitimate by now, so I'm wondering what's gonna happen with that. --Chuckolator (talk) 06:05, January 31, 2015 (UTC)

I am. I haven't added drop stuff for every single page yet though, because I'm thinking I can also do some stuff with morph rates too. I don't quite get how morph rates work, they just always have 25% chance for each possible morph unless there are less than 4, in which case the first possible option has 50/75%?--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 10:14, January 31, 2015 (UTC)
The monster statistics guide might be wrong on the morph success rate, but it has the info you need on the actual item data that results from it. Each enemy has 4 different options that are all 25%. When some fill more than one slot, it'll say in that link - for example, Stray Cat is "Morph: Tonic(3), Tintinabar" so 25x3=75% Tonic, 25% Tintinabar. Hope that makes more sense to you --Chuckolator (talk) 08:56, February 2, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, thanks. Morph seems to be fine now. It's morph rates and adding enemy formation data (mostly for GBA) that I'm working on before I'll have every FFVI enemy page completely fixed.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 12:57, February 2, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Broken RedirectsEdit


FFVI Earth ElementEdit

Under the elemental affinities of Dropper, it's listed as miss. But the Gravity Rod and Lifeshaver are Earth-elemental and they does not miss upon hitting the target. So the Earth-element does not miss. I would fix it, but can't make it work. I'm guessing that all Float status enemies are label as miss. Also Humbaba and Guardian's Invincible is displayed as Immune=Immune, but in the info box edit it is listed as "| 2 invincible = Auto", it should work, but can't really do anything here. Fenrir9 (talk) 20:00, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I definitely agree it shouldn't say "miss" under Earth, especially when that's not coded into the enemy itself but an ability the enemy is using. I can't remember why I made it do that before...:| Anyway, fixed the Immune=Immune thing, that was a stupidly careless error on my part >.< thanks for alerting me to that!--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 21:38, February 23, 2015 (UTC)

"(Game)" TagEdit

Techno, we don't use the "(Game)" tag. We prioritize game articles before non-game ones so that "Chocobo Racing (Game)" should be moved back to "Chocobo Racing" and on the top of "Chocobo Racing" we would need to put a redirect to "Chocobo Racing (Disambiguation)" and on the disambiguation page we would put redirect to the game and the minigame. That's at least what I believe should be correct with our guidelines. We actually had this problem with "Bravely Default" and the "(Game)" tag there was an error from my side since I wasn't really familiarized with that bit of disambiguation pages. But now as I'm looking at it, [[Help:Tags and Disambiguation Pages]] doesn't really say anything about "(Game)" tag and it should, just so it is clarified.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 15:34, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

I figured that "Chocobo Racing" was such an important recurring element that there should be a disambig instead of directing straight to that game. But, uh, if that was completely against policy and horrible and wrong then I am a right idiot. D: Want me to move it back, or should we have some discussion on it?--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 15:38, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
Move it back, although we could discuss it since it's an unwritten rule and with unwritten rules there is some confusion at times since it's not written, thus solid.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 16:01, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
I admit I disagree with the policy in this instance, but I should be following it nonetheless. I'll get it sorted out, sorry about this and thanks for letting me know.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 16:12, February 25, 2015 (UTC)
It's not an unwritten rule, releases get their own section, and right at the top of it, "articles about releases do not use tags". 18:32, February 25, 2015 (UTC)

Two questions Edit

Why do you keep banning and deleting me? I'm not even vandalising the wiki in any way nor am I saying something inappropriate. All I want to know is if SCM likes carrots or not. Is it really so hard to answer that? 00:31, March 11, 2015 (UTC)

You were banned for vandalism, and are now permanently banned. Questioning an admin's food taste is not your crime; ban evasion and harassment is.
If it really gives you a sense of accomplishment knowing it, yes, SCM likes carrots, they are his favourite vegetable and he loves them with mash potato.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 00:54, March 11, 2015 (UTC)
I said I don't like carrots you bloody moron. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 00:56, March 11, 2015 (UTC)



RE: Input RequestEdit


Re: Limit (Final Fantasy VII) Edit

Exactly what ad hominem and trolling are you talking about? Let me tell you what ad hominem is: I sent an FAQ writer (not on this wiki) an email that said "Thank you". He (or maybe she) replied "f*** you". That's right. I said "thank you". He said "f*** you". Once you told what was ad hominem, I will try to avoid in the future. But then again, without assuming good faith, everything I seems hostile. I've seen much unkindness from the users of Wiki on the first encounter, except from you. Xion_Valentine used a profanity against me the second time she wrote a revert summary. So, I am obliged to ask: I am ready to edit with civility in mind; are you ready to assume good faith in exchange? Or am I wasting my time here?

"including fixed widths tidies up the tables drastically and is generally needed".

  1. That's what I did. You reverted me. FYI, "50%" is a dynamic width, not fixed. 200px is fixed.
  2. I previewed my edit. My version looked better. Hence, I don't concern myself "generally". 6 centimeters of space is allocated to a cell that reads "1" while 1 centimeters would do. There is a huge amount of white space around images while the description field could use some
  3. You could perhaps point out a specific layout problem that my edit made.

Fleet Command (talk) 11:47, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

P.S. Does this wiki support ping notification? Fleet Command (talk) 11:50, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

When Techno said "fixed width" he meant specified widths (for each column). There are arguments for doing it either way, but your point about the image field is correct. Doesn't make much sense to use a % width when the contents are always a (actual) fixed width. But we prefer %s and we can't mix the two so that's how it is. The table width should be between 660px and 990px for all screens, so if the %s are set aptly then the number column should be in a width between 1cm and 1.5cm. Though I do admit, with a column containing only a number that can be a great deal of difference.
Techno's layout problems are probably to do with inconsistency: there are multiple tables on that page with the same layout and therefore equally sized columns look better. Also things can end up looking squished because fields containing long text steal all the pixels when they don't need to because they're designed to take up multiple lines.
The real problem is it's just not what we are used to doing. If we can make this change on this page then we can make similar changes on other pages so it's the kind of thing we'd have to discuss first. JBed (talk) 12:15, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
– "But we prefer %s and we can't mix the two so that's how it is."
Why not? Web browsers supported fit-to-content mode since 1999. If one assigns a fixed value to the index, name and image field and set the table to 100% width, the browser automatically adjusts the description field to max width. While specifying "px" for index and name can be troublesome, we can always specify "em".
– "there are multiple tables on that page with the same layout and therefore equally sized columns look better."
First, this was one of the thing that early in we development taught us to forget: Not always they look better; one has to assess in a case-by-case basis. (I did here.) Second, there is a solution: Fixed "em" width for all index columns ensures consistency, even across tables. The fixed "px" value for images too. The valueless description column.
"The real problem is it's just not what we are used to doing."
I agree. I had a feeling that it was true. So, all I have to do is to persuade the editors here to compare the results. Fleet Command (talk) 13:31, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
You do realise it's difficult to assume good faith when your edit summary contains "God, this wiki's coding needs serious work", right? And that the "I am right, you are wrong for reverting me, FYI my edit is better because" etc is not a good attitude to have? And that my assumption of good faith was why I didn't revert your Battle Square table change (which puzzled me, but I still left it because I saw you were trying yo achieve something)?
But let's talk about your edits. You remove the dynamic widths and claim that the "wiki's coding needs a lot of improvements" with a) no reason to, b) no explanation why and c) no replacement other than one column where you gave pixel widths. Your changes to Cait Sith's slots did not seem to have any actual benefit; using (semi?) prose instead of the actual results is less descriptive and doesn't look as good as dividing them with / when that can be used for every slot result.
Basically, most of your edits were preference edits that I did not prefer - and as such, need a talk page discussion first, I'd say the same about the Battle Square edit personally - but the coupling with troll comments ("god, your wiki needs lots of improvements") for what were preference edits led me to reverting them.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 12:34, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
– 'You do realise it's difficult to assume good faith when your edit summary contains "God, this wiki's coding needs serious work", right?'
I wouldn't mind if you come to my wiki and tell me that. My response would invariably be "How can I help you?" I'd hear you out. (That's actually my current job.) A dissatisfied or disgruntled person is not acting in bad faith. By default, the only person spared of good faith assumption is a vandal. Carelessly pressing the charges of "ad hominem" (personal attack) and "trolling" (abusing the Wiki for personal propaganda and attention-stealing) is what I would never do. I never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by dissatisfaction.
– 'You remove the dynamic widths and claim that the "wiki's coding needs a lot of improvements" with a) no reason to, b) no explanation why and c) no replacement other than one column where you gave pixel widths.'
True. I did do that, although I also mentioned "Improved layout A LOT!" implying that the preview looks a lot better. What I did was forcing the web browser into fit-to-content mode, supported since 1999. (See the reply to JBed above.) My mistake was that I didn't know you are not aware of that mode. Well, sometimes less code is better. It is true that the description field can have multiple lines but it is also true that too much space is wasted by unnecessary white spaces.
The mingled tables of Cait Sith limits are categorically problematic: They look very bizarre on wide or 4:3 and 3:4 monitors, accessibility is virtually non-existent and they are not written for people who are unfamiliar with the subject. Tables categorically need adequate captioning. Fleet Command (talk) 13:31, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
Please inform me me as to how criticising an entire wiki's community for not fitting your preference (and yes, your edits were preference edits), condescension and unconstructive comments are a) good conduct, b) productive to the community and the project and c) achieve anything. Though I disagreed with your edits, they were not in bad faith, but they also weren't didcussed first and came with spiteful and unhelpful comments; this escewed my view on its value, I admit.
I don't know what the standards on your wiki are - and for the record, it's not your wiki - but I am pretty sure this counts as uncivil in most places. Can you please just discuss things first, and not just go elitist on people for simply disagreeing with you? Do you not see how that is harmful to the whole collaborative environment?
But anyway, despite how I may have come across, and I can't speak for the rest of the users, but I hold nothing personal against you. Though I disagreed with your methods, I don't fault you for attempting to help this wiki out at all, I encourage it. Sorry if I wasn't clear about that. If you want your ideas to come to light, I encourage you bring then up on the talk page, and you may find some support, or lack of opposition. Happy editing.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 14:54, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
I am sensing that you are extending a great deal of open-mindedness, which I immensely appreciate. Since we seems to have reached a point in which we each have one foot on a mutual ground, I suggest we bring the contribution issue to a speedy close. So, I put my questions directly:
  • Do you or do you not approve of removing the white space around the 200px-wide images, making them fit their cells? (Method of doing so is negotiable.)
  • Do you or do you not approve of eliminating the extra white space in index and name columns, if the cross-table consistency issue that JBed mentioned is resolved? (Method of doing so is negotiable.)
Fleet Command (talk) 16:13, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
Yeah, sure. Sorry for not doing so earlier. My answers:
  • Conditional approve; as long as there are widths set for the other columns, setting a pixel width for this one is fine.
  • Approve, that sounds simple enough. I think.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 16:48, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
And there is another question that forgot asking yesterday:
  • There are three tables in Cait Sith section, two of them are so inter-mingled that are generating non-standard HTML. (In layman's words: How they render on each web browser is everyone's guess.) Is there any problem with detaching them?
I will try to send you screenshots before committing the code. Fleet Command (talk) 08:00, March 25, 2015 (UTC)
RE: ping notification, I don't think Wikia do, sorry.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 12:38, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
So, is watchlist the only method of tracking communications? Or do you have talkback? Fleet Command (talk) 13:31, March 24, 2015 (UTC)
We don't use message walls. We're very old school. Which means unfortunately we don't get the benefit of notifications. JBed (talk) 13:54, March 24, 2015 (UTC)

Ability DiscussionEdit


Re: Black Magic (Record Keeper)Edit

Yes, for battle you can assign two individual abilities, but in the "Party" menu in "Abilities" option there are five ability categories listed: Black Magic, White Magic, Physical, Summoning, and Other, plus Physical and Other have "schools" which are just subcategories of two. Also, how do you find the game?—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 17:48, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

I meant how do you like the game. I'm so sorry for the weird question there. OTL —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 17:56, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

This game is sooo much fun! Although I got kicked by bosses several time already. ;P Also, have you tried getting that Buster Sword from that random draw? —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 18:12, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

That's a rare draw, that Buster Sword. Still, I got some nice equipment for the party so it's not that bad. Also, I need to level up my party, so I can finally complete this darn Mt. Koltz: Vargas keeps beating me. ;P —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 19:02, March 28, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Type-0 Enemy AbilitiesEdit


Re: FFV iOS spritesEdit

FFVI iOS enemy sprites look more like pixel spriting and are not as smooth as the other games' enemy sprites.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 20:44, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

No, The Spriters Resource doesn't cover the Mobile version of FFVI, at least not yet. Give them time and at some point something will appear.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 21:53, March 31, 2015 (UTC)

FFA Character InfoboxEdit

Would it be possible for you to create a character infobox template for Final Fantasy Adventure when you have the time? The wiki never had one for the game. I recently remembered and check the history pages of the characters and it was Kaimi that mentioned it on Amanda's article in the edit summary. Fenrir9 (talk) 16:58, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

[[Template:FFA Character|This any good]]? I'm not sure what else you want on it, but the temporary characters and Sumo just have that for it.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 18:18, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
Wow, that was fast. Thanks. I don't think there is anything else to add, unless someone knows something we don't know like birthplace, hometown, etc from those Japanese exclusive books. Nothing like that is mentioned within the game. That's about it for the infobox, unless someone wants something else added. Fenrir9 (talk) 19:26, April 1, 2015 (UTC)
No problem. Gimme a shout if you need anything else.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:28, April 1, 2015 (UTC)

Just one more table I need a hand with Edit

I promise this is the last one :P all the others are super easy, but this one is throwing me somewhat. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle 12:47, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

Done. Any good?--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 14:40, April 6, 2015 (UTC)
Perfect, thanks :) Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle 14:42, April 6, 2015 (UTC)
np, it's what I'm here for :p--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 14:47, April 6, 2015 (UTC)

References HoverEdit

I hope you don't mind me asking but could you help me? I'd to have the hover thing in my CSS/JS (not sure where does it go) where there's a reference somewhere in the middle of the text (those numbers in square brackets in upper index) and when you hover over it there's this thing pop-up/hover like thing like on Wikipedia and KHWiki articles so there's no need for me to jump to the "References" section (although I imagine this thing would be helpful FFWiki-wide since there wouldn't be much jumping between different sections of an article if it's horribly long but I don't know how much use it would have here).—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 18:47, April 10, 2015 (UTC)

Reference popups? Oh, that's a JS thing, and we've already got it on FFWiki. It works when I do it, at least. If it's not working for you, it might be a JS loading error on your end that's stopping it from working, which means either your personal .js has buggy code on it or your browser's not loading it properly. It's definitely working on my end, at least...?_?--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:04, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
AH, got it. It's not enabled for everyone yet, only people with usertester. I'll get it sorted out soon.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:08, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
Ah, thanks for the heads up.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 19:10, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
I've made it public now, should be working for you? I mean, I don't see why not make it public when nothing's wrong with the code and Wikipedia already do it. Lemme know if there are any errors.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:14, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
Excellent, it works. Thanks.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 19:43, April 10, 2015 (UTC)
No prob, gimme a shout if anything else pops up.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:50, April 10, 2015 (UTC)



Re: Character InfoboxesEdit

With the name display you mean above the image? I'm not sure, but if that would happen I'd like to see a separate field for it, not just 'floating' above the image. Also, our character infoboxes are cluttered with quite a lot of information which shouldn't really be in infoboxes, mainly traits like hair and eye color and a few others. We should probably have policy on character infoboxes as well; yes, every game is different, but some standard would be more than welcome.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 16:42, April 11, 2015 (UTC)

Why Tifa is awful Edit

I don't think Tifa is a character that works well for anyone. As someone who considers her my least favorite character in FFVII, I will be the millionth person to admit that she's overrated. However, that does make her bad. Lots of people mistake her blandness for a lack of personality, but you're right to call her a cloud. She's more of a useless pile of ghastly horse shit to the entire party, though; Dissidia and Advent Children prove that she's just a cloud. She's a rain cloud, yet as well as this, she is also very emotional and physically dull as a rock. In this way, she manages to become incredibly easy to dislike.

I think she's mostly popular because of her unlikability and her sex appeal to miserable low life, sex craving gamers. Most video game characters with sex appeal are interesting, just not Tifa. You also need to consider the context of when the game came out; most female characters back then weren't incredibly bland, but Tifa was. This section (insert section that your never gonna bother reading because you are too disinterested like a kid doing his homework) details how poorly received she was. I dunno, I get offended when people say they like her as much because I admit she's not perfect. And there are some better written characters in the series (Lightning, Serah, Squall) but she still sucks. And hey, your not entitled to your opinion, I thought I'd explain --(insert shitty watermark) Jayking116 (talk) 02:00, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Red Dragon Edit

Yeah, I was confused too when I see it is immune to it, but there is an explanation of it in strategy for Nintendo DS (I assume it's the same as 3D remake, iOS in my case). And I was right. Encountered Red Dragon from treasure yesterday, keep losing & had no idea how to beat it because it keeps spamming Thermal Ray.. and after reading the strategy, I tried berserk in the middle of paused battle, bam works!

Edit: Oops, sorry. I'm new to 'talk' page in wikia, didn't know I could edit on my own talk page. Feel free to delete this, I'll copy my respond to where you posted.——Preceding unsigned comment was added by Kuzame (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~.

Nah, don't worry about it. It doesn't matter too much where you reply to messages, though I keep mine on my own talk page. Also, please sign your posts with ~~~~ in future so we know who you are.
Anyway, thanks for making that fix. I'm not sure if some other enemies will be listed as immune to berserk when they're, we'll see. Happy editing! ^.^--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 12:22, April 17, 2015 (UTC)

Active Dimension Battle (ADB) Programmer Edit

Hello. My source is the FFXII Battle Ultimania. There's an interview with the development staff and it's mentioned that Takashi Katano was the programmer of the ADB system and also the program supervisor of the Gambits system. Hope that helps. 17:47, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Can you provide the page number(s) for the interview? Book citations are supposed to have it if available.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 18:17, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
G-Zay, if you want to come back to the wiki and make useful contributions, why don't you appeal to have your SQEX acount unblocked and see what people think, instead of ban evasion? Sockpuppetry to try and do so is in direct violation of policy and good faith.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:01, April 22, 2015 (UTC)
Well, to be blunt, between his long history of socks, lying, and WP:BLP violations both here and on WP, any appeal he makes is going to be denied instantly. Regardless of if he provides a source, anything he says is inherently untrustworthy. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 21:34, April 22, 2015 (UTC)

Various New PagesEdit


JavaScript Help Edit

Hello, I'd like you help on a matter: You see I tried to use your wiki's tabber code but it did not work, could you help me figure out what I might have done wrong here? Chimera-gui (talk) 23:54, April 24, 2015 (UTC)

I can guess what the problem is, but I can't really tell you more without something to look at. Can you link me where you're having the problem?--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 00:03, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
The JavaScript uses common functions we add to the basic prototypes to make coding them easier. Among them is String.prototype.replaceAll, Node.prototype.addClass, Node.prototype.hasClass, and Node.prototype.removeClass; which I expect the tabber code probably uses.
So you can copy those functions from our JS or rewrite the code to not use those functions. JBed (talk) 01:14, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I copied the functions but it's not quite working:
Any ideas on what I could be missing now? Chimera-gui (talk) 02:30, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Right now the error is one of the lines that reads:
The first one on the page, below the line that reads importScriptPage('MediaWiki:Tooltip.js', 'joeplayground');. That above line can just be removed. JBed (talk) 03:07, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Okay, I removed it. Hopefully that will fix it. Chimera-gui (talk) 03:51, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
One step closer. Next: Replace this part:
 $Id: tabber.js,v 1.9 2006/04/27 20:51:51 pat Exp $
 $Id: tabber.js,v 1.9 2006/04/27 20:51:51 pat Exp $
JBed (talk) 04:09, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Okay, anything else that might be causing problems? Chimera-gui (talk) 04:14, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Yep, somewhere in the JS add:
var article = document.getElementById("WikiaArticle");
JBed (talk) 04:35, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
There we go, anything else needed to fix? Chimera-gui (talk) 05:10, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Oops, sorry it can't go anywhere. Place that above line above the line:
/** Collapsible tables *********************************************************
Also above that line add:
/* Encodes text to hash-part of URL */
function encodeHash(string, includehash) {
  if (includehash) string = string.slice(1);
  string = encodeURIComponent(string).replaceAll("%", ".");
  if (includehash) string = "#" + string;
  return string;
JBed (talk) 05:36, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Alright, what next? Chimera-gui (talk) 05:51, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Unexpected problem. The site's JS imports from a page that sets the "article" variable so it gets replaced. Not too much of a problem, though it is annoying.
So the fixes,
Replace these five lines:
var article = document.getElementById("WikiaArticle");
  divs = article.getElementsByTagName("div");
  if (article) {
if (article) window.addEventListener("hashchange", function () {
  var search = article;
with these five lines respectively:
var articleElement = document.getElementById("WikiaArticle");
  divs = articleElement.getElementsByTagName("div");
  if (articleElement) {
if (articleElement) window.addEventListener("hashchange", function () {
  var search = articleElement;
JBed (talk) 06:13, April 25, 2015 (UTC)
Okay, anything else? Chimera-gui (talk) 13:57, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Jayking Edit

Aye, I understand; though I wouldn't define him as a troll by any stretch - given that he's far more emotionally overinvested than a supposed troll would be - he does seem interested in little besides creating a space for his narcissistic self-validation (yeah I know, realizing this after the fact). At any rate, I'll let him cook.

Also, my talk page was initially blank when viewed from my Android tablet, why is that? FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 19:04, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Well, "don't feed the trolls" was the original name of the Wikipedia project page, to basically say "don't respond to people looking for a response", thus I said "troll".
It's a bug that's been happening on Wikia a tad recently, when loading the page does not load any actual content. It's weird, the best way to solve it is to refresh or something. It's not just tablets.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 19:15, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Yeah, I figured as much, it just sounds funnystyle from a semantic POV to me. :B

And alright, that'd explain it. I think we can expect a message from Wikia addressing it before long. FFVAExdeathmenu Lord G. matters. Talk to me. FFVAExdeathmenu 19:42, April 25, 2015 (UTC)

Please Set this User Straight Edit

w:User:452 seems to think that I'm using a toggler while this site uses a modified version of the default tabber dispite my code being based on that of your site meaning they should be the same:,_2015#comm-832946

He's not gonna listen to me so I'm hoping that he'll listen to one of the people who actually wrote this site's code. Chimera-gui (talk) 21:10, April 29, 2015 (UTC)

I hope you understand that I do not usually have time to be involved in disputes that do not directly concern or involve this site. I simply don't see what you want me to do to help you, and this debate mostly concerns semantics.
That said, if you explain your tabber issue - and 452 was correct that it is most likely a javascript issue - I or someone else will be able to help to the best of my ability.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 21:35, April 29, 2015 (UTC)
I did try to explain the problem and got this as a response:
"There is an error in the javascript console: "Uncaught TypeError: elem.className.split is not a function", so it looks like the same problem.

finalfantasy uses Tabber.
kaijudo has the same "toggler" as the other sites above used.

And every time I tried to correct him by pointing out that my code couldn't be a toggler since I copied what JBed gave me (and in fact it wasn't, he was looking at the wrong section altogether), I was completely dismissed while he acted like he had done nothing wrong. Chimera-gui (talk) 22:29, April 29, 2015 (UTC)
Again, I do not see what you want me to do. I'd rather not get involved in cross-wiki drama that does not concern me. If you want to link him to this message; yes, the FFWiki does not use the Tabber that he linked to, and no, I do not know if it is connected to toggler he referred to.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 23:02, April 29, 2015 (UTC)
I know you don't want to get involved but unfortunately, there is nothing I can say at this point that won't be immediately dismissed. I repeatedly told him that he was wrong and this was his response:
Okay. Well I'm sure you can figure it out without my help.
Good luck, and have a great day!
edit: If anyone else would like my help, I'm still willing to provide it.

Chimera-gui (talk) 00:02, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Thank you for your professionalism, Technobliterator. I was already aware that you used a modified version of Tabber, and I stated that quite clearly. -452 03:41, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

No problem, 452. Sorry that you guys couldn't work anything out. Chimera-gui, if 452's advice doesn't help you solve your problem, you are free to ask one of us for help.--Magicite-ffvi-ios Technobliterator TC 07:07, April 30, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Type-0 Enemies Edit

No problem.--LeafShinobi (talk) 20:00, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

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