- 1 DNC Question
- 2 Multiple Neo Bahamuts
- 3 Hello Im on FFXIClopedia, but still Kinda New
- 4 President of the USA
- 5 FFXIII in DNC
- 6 Shit You Don't Care About
- 7 FFXI articles
- 8 Hello^^
- 9 Dragon's Neck Colosseum
- 10 Final Fantasy Wiki:Dragon's Neck Colosseum/Nomination Page
- 11 hello^^
- 12 DNC rule change
- 13 DNC nommination changes?
- 14 More Senseless DNC Questions
- 15 Collapsible Peanut Gallery
- 16 The DNC Archives
- 17 DNC Schedule
- 18 Re: Mixed Message
- 19 DNC Queue
- 20 Uh....
- 21 Wanna play Mafia?
- 22 Non-FF fights in the DNC
- 23 hello
- 24 DNC
- 25 Licensing
DNC Question[edit source]
I activly give my opinions on the DNC nomination page and I have noticed that the fights are being picked in a seemingly random order. How are the fights actually selected and how do you contribute to the process? And how come some of the fights only have some support votes while others have many? Why bother voting if yours is the ultimate descision? As you can see, I am relativly new here and I still have yet to see the inner workings of the wiki. (seeing how I suck at anatomy and computer science, this might take a while)
Many people have complained about the same thing Jeppo did in the same space, and yet they were not given yellow cards. The kicker is that some of them are here only for the DNC, while Jeppo is a respectable editor. What makes him more punishable than they are? Did you know he's leaving the wiki over it? Perhaps you should have considered making your example someone expendable.
When that rule was began, it was contested on a weekly basis. Nothing was done then. Do you really plan to get rid of every example after a certain point? While it is fair not to grant a person immunity, it is not when such immunity was granted to someone else last year.
All bad ideas begin as good ones, too, no? Perhaps I bring up a new point: forbidding other weeks' conversations to that degree is unnecessary. Where is the line between that and the beginning of Week 107's Peanut Gallery?
Hi I noticed that you are the administrator for the DNC. I just want to let you know that someone has put a fight into the Queued list and it wasn't something that was even suggested. Xlatinsorax 16:57, 20 June 2009 (UTC)
Multiple Neo Bahamuts[edit source]
Incidently, could someone tell me what this "warning" was over so that I don't end up doing whatever it was the guy who stole my name (he may have came first, but I used the fucking spacebar!) did?
Hello Im on FFXIClopedia, but still Kinda New[edit source]
Anyways, Hello TacticsAngel. I would like to offer to you Final Fantasy & Dragons 2, which will just be a sequal to your very nice D20 game. I am still happy using DnD 3.0, so the rules will be similar to that system. I will try to include an increased list of jobs, and balance changes to ones you have already outlined. But, since it is a new version and not an expansion, it won't work with what you have already done. Me E-Mail is firstname.lastname@example.org, and I will like your input/comments as I continue working on this oversized project.
I haven't emailed you or anything lol...Ive thrown out all my past work after seeing your setup, and realize the best bet to actually getting this done is realizing that my best bet to implementing Final Fantasy to D&D is to stop turning D&D into Final Fantasy as I accidently was doing, and turn Final Fantasy into D&D. I'll keep in touch best I can, but I still have no link, as I am back at square one in my progress. I can give you a link once I have a lajit system, and progress is moving.
Technically, the first FF pretty much WAS a slightly altered, electronic version of D&D. As a matter of fact, a lot of the famous recurring elements of the series come from D&D. Most notably, Bahamut being a dragon.
There u go Neo Bahamut. U forgot the second t in text, so didn't see ur actual response till I went to edit. :)...Id like a chatbox too.
It just didn't go through. Making a text box is really quite simple, actually: Copy the TalkTestTemplate, edit it to suit your preferences, rename it to something that'll be easy for you to remember & type (hence why I'm "Neospeak," rather than "Neo's Text Box," or something to that effect. Then...I think you turn it into an article. That seems to be the way to format anything around here.
President of the USA[edit source]
So, can he call people retards without repercussions? My God, that country is freaking sweet.
Sarcasm aside, just a question: How come I get banned for saying that fantards (a term I just made up at the moment of posting) exist and there are a annoyingly high number of them around FFX and that's why people usually hates the game without calling anyone a fantard (that's the important part, in fact I explicitly said that FinalAnnihilator (I think) was not one), but some people call bitch some other people and nothing happens? Hey, that's cool bro. Zak Undersn 13:56, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't know about any of that, but you did admit to being a troll &, by extension, starting a massive flame war around that topic and others. Sort of a revokation of all sympathy rights, right there.
Furthermore...you're lying. You implied that F.A. was a fantard when he defended the game. You went back on that a little bit, but only to call he & I (who had nosed my way into the flamewar by that point) idiots and tell us that we couldn't read. Then there's that one time you called me Neo Bawmut...I think you seem to miss the fact that there's a distinct difference between calling someone a bitch in jest and outright insulting them because you don't like what they have to say.
Now, I know it's not really any of my business, but in light of all of this, why should anyone, let alone someone whose job it is to regulate the wiki, trust what you have to say? Maybe you should really think about the way you present yourself, come back, & make a plea to TacticAngel that sounds a lot less like an accusation? And then the next time you try to stop a flamewar, don't claim to have been manipulating it the whole time. Seriously, that was kinda dumb.
Oh, and you did not make up the term "fantard." Don't be so vain.The Neo is also apparently guilty of great minimodding and hypocrisy.
Just meant that I've certainly done some--maybe a lot--of the stuff I pointed out to him. How do I get away with it? Dunno, maybe I'm a Karma Houdini.
Oh, feck, I was writing a longpost explaining some things and I closed the explorer, I'll try to sum up:
That time I didn't want to start a flamewar, I just wanted to give a short and clear answer to the question FinalAnnihilator made. Of course, my trolling habits made it look like an attack, but it wasn't my intention to automatically include anyone into the term fantard (I hadn't heard it before, that's why I told I made it up) because FinalAnnihilator's comment made sense, and I had no reason to attack him. If I said you two couldn't read it's because I didn't mean to include anyone, and I didn't explicitly include anyone, if I wanted to include someone I would have said it, it's easier than expecting someone to mystically understand what you meant. Also, when I said YHBT (You Have Been Trolled) I couldn't believe it, I just wanted to answer, not to start anything.
I know I troll, but I make it just because it's too easy in the DNC, if you use the right word, tere's always someone who will get pissed by it and you will have a nice way to spend the evening without spending a cent. What I mean is that there's a lot of fanatism floating around there, and exploiting it is fun. Well, I think nothing of this counts as an excuse.
If I came to the talkpage to ask for the reason of the ban in that way (making it sound like an accusation) is because I was surprised, I made worse things before in other Peanut Galleries (the "calling someone a bitch" was the first to come to my mind, but you can include any of my acts into the sentence), and this time I didn't wanted to do anything else than answering. I didn't expect it to come from this way, but that's the beauty of the flaming&trolling, kinda.
I won't try to convince you (Tactic Angel) I'm a productive member of this society called FFWiki or that I'm a victim of your tyranny, mainly because I'm not. You did your job, I was pissed because I didn't expect you to ban me that time and I expected you to do it before, when I told people to die, in example. I wanted to know where the limit was, now I know it, I don't think I will do it again, but I'm not sure, the Dark Side is fun, and they have cookies.
About the productiveness, well, I made some minor edits anyone could do if they had the curiosity enough to calculate the approximated damage Vivi's Gravity does in FFIX. In fact, I only visit the page to find some help about skills and spend some time trolling in the DNC (and voting, but voting takes about two minutes while trolling is more satisfying). There's no sense on telling I don't.
What I mean with this is that there's no loss on banning me, at least there's no loss right now. I would like to contribute someday, but either my english or my ignorance on some topics doesn't allow me to, and I'm a professional procastinator, so I don't fit into the scheme of a good contributor. If I deserve to be banned, I will accept it. But I repeat that I never thought that I would be banned for that comment and that's why I wanted to know why.
PS: The Neo Bawmut thing is because you always jump out of nowhere to (metaphorically) cry about something someone said. It's a character shorter than Neo Bahamut, too. Zak Undersn 14:05, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
So, you're telling me that that things I read somewhere of "talk to the admins if you think your ban is not fair" or "if you have any question just talk to the admins" was just bullshit? You're so cool I'm gonna die Zak Undersn 21:16, 16 May 2009 (UTC)
Those sentences are there for the users whose blockings are definitely not fair. Talking to the admin who blocked you isn't an automatic get-out-of-jail-free card. To be perfectly honest, if TA continues like this, the DNC might be worth voting in again soon.
I know I deserved the block, but I think a warning before I get too hotheaded isn't asking for too much, let alone given my behavior before (that was like HEY, HERE, WARN ME). Also, does being blocked mean that you automatically lose the right to explain some things on the blocker's talk page? That's how it looks, boy. I'm not asking for absolution. And now I'm moderating myself, or else I would earn a good ban4life.
PS: Oh, and congrats for your birthday. I get a bit amnesic for those things. Zak Undersn 00:57, 17 May 2009 (UTC)
FFXIII in DNC[edit source]
When XIII comes out, shouldn't we have a special week(s) where it's XIII characters. I already put three in the nomination page.
Shit You Don't Care About[edit source]
I feel as though my attempt to garner support for Genesis vs. Kuja (great fight, btw) might have had a slight backfire. I notice people are starting to voice disgruntled opinions about the fights at hand. I can't help but feel partially responsible for this, & so I hope it doesn't annoy you TOO much....
FFXI articles[edit source]
Just thought I'd let you know that we're creating subpages to host all the job abilities, with job ability articles redirecting to the page needed. A new user also managed to get images for each family of enemies. Any objections/suggestions before we begin?
Also, you posted "Yuan is empowered to ban you for being a trouble maker in general" on Neo Bahamut's talk page. However...I'm not an admin and I don't have any power to ban him :p. Although speaking of the DNC, could I please have permission to dump any further lengthy arguments in this thread to reduce loading times? — YuanSaluto!Acta 23:31, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Hi, umm..I suggested a fight in the Dragon's Neck Colosseum you could tell me how long it takes to get the answer if it was accepted or not?Sindra The Fire Angel 05:00, 8 August 2009 (UTC)
Dragon's Neck Colosseum[edit source]
what did i do--a17280fdec998b452275c942c7dfe2cb 01:21, 20 August 2009 (UTC). hello what did i do--a17280fdec998b452275c942c7dfe2cb 03:28, 20 August 2009 (UTC).
Hi, can reconsider your decision on the Dragon's Neck Colosseum, now no one can suggest a fight any more, but in my opinion the colosseum is an important and very dear part o FF wiki. Thanks for the attention and considerationSindra The Fire Angel 21:50, September 1, 2009 (UTC)
He's asking you to unprotect the nominations page for the DNC so that normal users can edit it. (By the way, I don't mind either way, I'm just the interpretor)
I protected that page because it was getting 30 edits in less than two hours, every two hours, for almost two days in a row, i. e. it was spamming the Recent Changes. I still think it should be protected, as the more than ten queued fights are still waiting to get picked.
I find it kinda funny that whenever I join posting in a games topic on a forum, or editing on a Wiki fan-project, it gets locked soon after. All I was doing was not killing the TOC by shortening all the headings. I can't even see the DNC nomination page, or the DNC project page, the DNC template and the main page on my RC.... not that any of you care. ILHI 13:25, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
DNC rule change[edit source]
I'm wondering if you would be willing to change one of the rules in the DNC. That rule is: "No fights that have already been done". Would it be possible to change that to not been done for at least a year? Because with many new users, the outcome can change, and it could give people a chance to vote for their favorite character that was in a fight before they joined, and hasn't come up since. Do you have any thoughts on this request? Thanks. 1stclasswarrior 21:32, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
- No. At least, I don't think so. Because there are loads of good fights that can be done. Why should we be subject to the same 52 fights ever year? More and more characters being added to the series, far less need to repeat fights. ILHI 22:28, September 2, 2009 (UTC)
DNC nommination changes?[edit source]
This is a little sudden, but I need to tell you that I and several others are trying to find a better way to handle the DNC nommination page. The page has gotten to be over 250 suggestions and there are rule-breaking suggestions left and right. One of the latest suggestions was "Chuck Noris vs Cloud". This needs to stop, everyone of the users looking after the page agrees with me. That is why when we were discussing how the page can be changed for the better, I came up with a set of changes that I think will have to be approved by you first. Can you please go to the disscussion page to see if you can allow any of those. Please note that everyone has agreed that the page cannot remain the way it is. If you agree to this change, I am already ready to help put it together and help it along whenever I can. - Ninja of Wind -
- I'm with Ninja of Wind on this TA. I was the one who started the discussion and others just added onto it. We seriously need mods to monitor the page or something of the sort. Its getting way way WAY out of hand. I saw a lot of suggestions that need to be deleted. We need new rules for the DNC. I'm also ready to help with anything that needs to be done with page. It was my suggestion, so I'm willing to help as much as I can. If you need to contact me TA, leave a message on my talk page. I'm always around here anyway. TheBlueDragoon 03:20, October 6, 2009 (UTC)
Even if it is a sideshow, it is a very popular sideshow that deserves better in the way it is put together. If 260+ suggestions have been made on just one page, I think that some form of control needs to be put into place so this sideshow can stay organized enough to maintain it's reputation. If you say that it isn't that big a deal, then you might want to appoint some people who do think it's a big deal to take care of this problem. People will continue to ask you about this until a change is made. - Ninja of Wind -
More Senseless DNC Questions[edit source]
Hi, I'm relatively new (joined last month), and I like the DNC just about the most on FFWikia, but I feel like nominations that are submitted by newer users get dumped on by more frequent users without a second thought, yet these said frequent users are the ones getting all the support and wind up in the DNC. I really don't mean to sound whiny, and I know you have final say over all the DNC fights, but is the DNC basically for users that have been here for a long time? I do apologize if you've heard this countless times, or if this matter really doesn't concern you, but the other users.
Ah. I understand. Thank you for your time, and sorry to bother you.
Collapsible Peanut Gallery[edit source]
The DNC Archives[edit source]
DNC Schedule[edit source]
A lot of users have noticed that you don't really keep up with the DNC schedule. Is that because of real life or lack of interest...? Never mind, it's none of my business. What I really came here to say is this: What do you propose we do about this? Apoint a co-editor? Find somebody else for the job? Or will you do it? I don't really care and would be glad to help if that's what you need, but something has to change.
Re: Mixed Message[edit source]
I'm sorry to hear you were ill, glad to hear it's passed.
Thank you for the acknowledgment, I admit I was a bit anxious regarding your return, I full out expected a block for my actions and am glad it didn't come to that. For the fight with limited support, I had chosen Sephiroth vs Kuja as it was in the queue. Looking back at the suggestion the re-suggestion had limited support, but the original suggestion in Archive 9, 2008, had nine in favor. But I admit either way I hadn't looked back at the original suggestion.
I'll say it outright, I'm happy to see you about. I ultimately don't care if it's you, me or someone else running the DNC, as long as the fight gets changed and votes are properly monitored. So yeah, welcome back, good to see you, hope you feel better and...yeah. Thank you for being reasonable.
Aye, and you're right on the bigotry, the debating had turned to arguing (doesn't help the Admins were provoking the other users...) and it got out of hand.
DNC Queue[edit source]
Not asking to be smartass or anything, but do you use it? Some of the fights on it are more than a year old and haven't been put up yet. Just wondering if maybe you should do away with it if it isn't being used? Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:49, April 15, 2010 (UTC)
Ah, okay. I don't think I'm the only one who has added to the queue in the past, but in general I usually queued something when it had 8 or more votes in favor. But yeah, its impossible to tell which fights got how much support unless you're willing to go digging around in the archives.
Ok, so I log on and I seen a big yellow card on my talk page. Mind explaining what it was I did wrong, specifically?
- What? All I did was note my personal music opinion. I didn't even condone in that huge discussion. If it's that important that I wrote a few words, I won't even condone in the Peanut Gallery anymore. SilverCrono 00:54, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
- Jesus almighty. If thats what it was, then I'm with SC. I won't even comment on fights anymore. God damn. 00:58, May 6, 2010 (UTC)
Sorry TA. I didn't know that EVERYONE got a warning. I only seen mine and Silver's. Sorry for being an ass, I just wanted to know what was going on, and the forum you posted pretty much answered my questions. SO! I'll see you back at the Peanut Gallery next week then?
It just figures that I get banned from the DNC the week my fight goes up.EDIT: Does the ban refer to a real-time week or a "DNC Week"?
Wanna play Mafia?[edit source]
Just one. You can always change the code on your existing bubble, or save alternate code on your userpage.
One can also have more than one bubble in their template, but it has some pretty complicated coding.
Non-FF fights in the DNC[edit source]
I'm just dropping a line to ask for approval on this idea -- 15:11, June 13, 2010 (UTC)
I'm kinda new here. Could you help me out? -Therider Rides Alone 20:53, June 14, 2010 (UTC)
In my boredomness I made some image/file Licenses to better tag the files, between game covers, album covers, audio samples, screenshots, logos, book covers and the like. I was thinking that the "SECopyright" template was too generic of a fair use template since it's in 22,000+ files. I also reorganized the Mediawiki:Licenses list.But then again I don't think anyone cared about fair use anymore.
Random interjection from me: I care, sort of. Mainly because of the number of times when I've been really uncertain as to what licence applies to an image I've uploaded. Greater detail on how to select the appropriate licensing is appreciated, at least by me. This particular change may not help me directly, but it feels like a step closer to making the whole licensing thing a bit easier to figure out.
Category: Any improvement, however large or small it may be, is always good