Talk Template Guidelines[edit source]

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Blockery[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 18:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
I actually don't keep track of who is a moderator. There are only people equivalently important to me, more important than me, and less important than me. Anyone in the last category is fair game for the ban stick.

...besides, I've only banned BHW while he was a moderator prior to that, and the majority of his bans were while he wasn't a moderator, I think.

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TacticAngel TALK 20:44, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Nothing, really.
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I dont know what you did, but somehow when you banned this SOB. you got me too, apparently he was using MY IP or that is what the ban notice said. i would rather like to know what the HELL is going on here!Exdeath64 14:30, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

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TacticAngel TALK 22:26, 1 December 2008 (UTC)
Kind of late notice don't you think?

Hey, i could only edit MY OWN userpage, and the shout box was disabled for me, so i really could not do anything until then. Just out of curiosity, what happened, and how did you banning BH get me too? Exdeath64 00:30, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

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TacticAngel TALK 00:46, 2 December 2008 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with this blocking. As for why you got hit, I don't know.

It said my IP had been blocked because of BH's activities. I dont know what happened, but it may happen again to another user, someone needs to get to the bottom of this before someone more prominent gets nailed, imagine if one of the larger admins ran into this glitch, or whatever it is. it could be a problem later on, but then again, it may be nothing. Who knows? Exdeath64 04:31, 2 December 2008 (UTC)

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TacticAngel TALK 00:59, 3 December 2008 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I don't have any control over the inner workings of the Wikia. This is kind of system issue. I am a slightly more enabled end-user just as you are.

DNC[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 19:12, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
All in good time, Professor Moriarty. All in good time.
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TacticAngel TALK 20:33, 12 August 2008 (UTC)
There are plenty of random fights. I'm not likely to put up Sephiroth vs. Vivi anytime soon based on the obviousness of an _Anyone_ versus Vivi fight, especially with FFVII so despised around here.
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TacticAngel TALK 01:40, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
Blue, are you insinuating that there might be a way that is superior to a democracy of minors? Its not as though anyone, especially not me, could have predicted that voting on ideas would lead to repetition.
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Deletion log[edit source]

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Crystal Chronicles enemy template[edit source]

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Faethin[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 06:25, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
I asked Faethin for his cooperation and warned him repeatedly. I don't feel like getting into a revert war, and this makes things easier. He'll be back soon.
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I side with Drake and Hexed on this one. Although some of your blocks were funny (I LOLed at 69 sec. for interrupting your sexy) you are really going too far here.
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That must've been one hell of a typo.
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TacticAngel TALK 07:04, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Anyone can give anyone a test template. I gave my first test template away before being a mod/admin, so you guys all need to stop bellyaching about that.

As far as the rest of it, Hexed blocks are all because he asks for them, functionally, and they don't impede him in any way.

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I think they can un-ban themselves. You can ask Wikia Staff to revoke their status as Admin, though.
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TacticAngel TALK 07:47, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
Admins can ban admins, but as said above, the banned admin can just unban himself.
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First, yay for TA. Good move.

Second, look at this page for a second. How the margin where the images are and the talkboxes start is the same the whole way down. This is what it looks like. This is what is should look like. There shouldn't be a discussion. TA made the template so it was 50px. Making your way around it isn't what it was set for. Someone didn't, he kindly changed them for him so he was keeping within the rules. He did not follow and went against authority. TA was in the right, Faethin was not. He banned himself.  ILHI 10:18, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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And admins can make rules so it has to be width 50px. Even if it doesn't say that, if he wants to he can make it a bannable offense, and IMO, he should. With warning that they should not of course. This is wiki!  ILHI 10:40, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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Abuse of power is use of power. They do abide by the same rules as everyone else. As you can see, the admins also have a fixed 50px width. Adding rules to keep things in order is what it would be. Just like how on forums, there will be rules like "DON'T USE CAPS", or "don't use txt spk" because it is seen as shouting and because there's no point to decipher, respectively.

This is a design issue. It makes things look as nice as possible. That is a good enough reason. Like why we use tables on Wiki pages. Like why we use images that match the colours on our templates. Because it looks a lot damn nicer. I, myself, prefer admins to make decisions amongst themselves. Normal users here are looking at it from the aspect of "ma image will be too small". Admins are not. If the margin changed from template to template; that would look horrible, no?

To compare it to forums once more, most forums put a limit on avatars. 50x50, 64x64, 100x100. It's the same here. Except the height dimension isn't equal to that of the width.  ILHI 10:55, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

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TacticAngel TALK 02:05, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
I've heard that before, though I am not sure how it is that I blocked you along with him. Probably has to do with international something. I think thats either a wikia or a general internet concern.
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TacticAngel TALK 09:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Why shouldn't my talk page be the most popular page on the wiki, though, really?

BH's talk page is the most frequently edited talk page. I don't like that. He yearns for attention.  ILHI 12:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

He yearns for attention. Giving attention seekers attention is not what it should be like.  ILHI 12:03, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

A Democracy Indeed[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 17:22, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
To know what they are, to feel the pulse. We have decided what is best for the wiki. As administrators, that is our our task. I've been doing it for years now, and I don't know why many of you suddenly think I'm concerned, in the long run, by the community's opinion of me.

Do you consciously quote Sun Tzu because of my opinion on him or is this just coincidence?

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TacticAngel TALK 17:30, 15 August 2008 (UTC)
Drake, just because you don't know what the rules are, doesn't mean they didn't exist. There was a long-standing guideline on the width of avatars to be used. A few of our users decided to disregard that rule. I changed their templates to be compliant, as is well within my rights to do so. As far as people who repeatedly break the rules, they were dealt with in a manner consistent with policy and practice.
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TacticAngel TALK 01:05, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
I am aware of the 1/2 point; however, it doesn't make a difference. My character map isn't cooperating. Its still 10% and I called it a draw.

FFXI Wiki/Image dumping[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 02:33, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
The text from it is from the Vana'diel Tribune, as listed atop the page. The only broken links are really things that we will eventually need pages for. Really, if I was from Windurst, I would have already written up something about the Star Sibyl, but since I am not, I don't care about her. Anyway, I'll categorize these... but really, there doesn't seem to be any malfeasance here.

DNC[edit source]

If it's alright with you, I'm gonna change those pics of Tifa and Setzer in a minute or two. I don't think Setzer's KH pic (or any KH pic for that matter) is the best image for usage in the DNC. *shudder*. Drake Clawfang

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TacticAngel TALK 22:04, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
It doesn't matter which is the best, because we all know what picture would be up there if we used the best Tifa picture. It matters which are the most similar so as not to give one character an unfair advantage visually.
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Thank you, BlueHighwind, when FFVI DS comes out and Setzer sports a bulge, then I guess it'll be fair to use that pic. But seriously, I agree with TA's logic. The problem is, while Blue and I didn't, many hated KH2 Setzer. The images I changed them to are still fairly similae. Drake Clawfang

Email[edit source]

Hey TA. I need your email address so I can send you a suggestion of mine for the FFWiki. Please send one by going to my userpage and clicking "Email this user". Thanks . Bluer 13:54, 18 October 2008 (UTC)

Week....?[edit source]

8Bit noticed you had gotten the weeks wrong in the DNC - We went from Week 86 to Week 89. I fixed it appropriately, so we're currently at Week 90. Drake Clawfang

Need a DNC helper?[edit source]

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The Alpha-Male?[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 23:45, 25 October 2008 (UTC)
Yes, I was the original creator. I wanted to do it another more efficient way, but it didn't work out well. If you review my sandbox history you can see how it was conceived. I made a template for myself. By the time I was awake the next morning, a half dozen people had cleaned it up a bit and made their own. I have asked that when people make a master template elsewhere, they give credit to this wiki though.

Fanart, image and such[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 19:19, 8 November 2008 (UTC)
I tend to prefer the copyright one if only because we should document where ALL images come from. This helps the administrators know which ones aren't supposed to be here at all. I'm not omniscient, and it places the burden of proof where it belongs, on the user that uploaded it. What if someone uploaded a super massive image of, say, my airships? It would have two colorful, large, bulky templates on the page instead of one which is not visually interesting or distracting, but serves its purpose well.

Do What?[edit source]

I apologize, but I don't know what you mean. I merely did what myself, BlueHighwind and to an extent, 8-Bit, have done ever since July - helped keep the DNC running in your absence. I'll say to you what I have also said to Blue - without us, that place would have fallen apart. We've put up new fights on the queue, and have changed it when you have been late doing so. I recognize you're in charge of the DNC, but as with an office manager, if you start stepping out of your office, there's been an assistant or two left behind to keep things tidy and efficient until you return. Drake Clawfang

I think the little <3 means TA was kidding, Drake. <3 <3 <3 8bit 16:51, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Perhaps, but he has warned me against changing the fight before. I'd rather not get warnings at all, seeing as how he doesn't mind BlueHighwind changing the fight - he's even directly asked him to do it at least once. Drake Clawfang
... But then he asked him to. You know what I'd do? Nothing. Then if anyone decides that TA can't manage on his own, the people entrusted will probably be you and BH because you've done loads of work for the DNC already. Then that might backfire but whatever.        :D         I Lion Heart I 17:04, 16 November 2008 (UTC)
Although I'm a bit busy to do so now, I do remember others complaining about the inconsistency of fights being changed. This is nothing new. Drake Clawfang

Oh, and here's something to recall too.

I don't see any problem when those who're enthusiastic enough to help maintain this feature does so. I mean, we had a sysop who now chose to be unaffiliated with the wiki, and a bureaucrat who now finds solace in a new wiki and all his time is spent there, both their enthusiasm lost. If they want to handle it, why not?

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Margin Policing[edit source]

Y'know, I was going to resize that image and rehost it myself, but your method is much funnier and time-saving. ^_^  I Lion Heart I 13:51, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Its not your responsibility. If he wants to use an image not on the FFWiki, he should ensure it is the proper size. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 13:57, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
Wait, Zolos a guy?!? Ultima The High Seraph 14:00, 21 December 2008 (UTC)
I don't know. He is technically indefinite. The long and short of it is that I don't really give a crap if he is a he or if he is a she, and that discussion is not for what my talk page is intended. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 14:05, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

DNC Warn[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 14:49, 28 December 2008 (UTC)
Crazyhorse is classic... I'll look though...

FFXI Magic System/Images[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 13:25, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
That would be somewhat hard to do. There are a ton of spells, and some of them require a good deal of animation. I would be happy to answer any questions about the magic system that you might have. I'm not sure where to begin if you want me to just explain the entirety of the system.
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TacticAngel TALK 21:57, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Spells are learned by reading scrolls. A lot of scrolls are purchased, but the higher level scrolls are generally only dropped off of monsters. There are no rare/exquisite scrolls, so they can all be sold on the Auction House so this does not generally mean people have to go out and do it themselves, though some do.

All spells have a cast and a recast time. Some of them have a very high cast time, like escape, and some of them are almost instant, like flash. Recast is completely independant of this, though, because I think you can cast escape again quicker than you can cast flash again, in spite of the fact that escape takes a good 5-10 seconds to cast.

Each spell has its own duration. Haste, for instance, lasts for 5 minutes on most people, while protect and shell spells will generally last 30 minutes.

The term rank is not used in association with spellcasting. You get skill in the category of magic (IE: enhancing magic) for using corresponding spells occasionally (IE: haste). Some skills are very directly effected by this number, some only indirectly, some are virtually not-at-all.

Check out enhancing magic, the page, it should link in the skill chart all of the names of the various magic categories.

Forum:The DNC Has Officially Hit Bottom[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 02:16, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
Thanks for bringing this to my attention Blue. I hope that first part is at least half true. I assure you that I operate the DNC with no bias, which should be pretty obvious with the vast number of losers I vote for. If there is any error in what I've done, I assure you it is simply human error, not anything malicious. Hopefully, this doesn't shatter your world view (and I'm pretty sure it wouldn't one way or the other).
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TacticAngel TALK 06:09, 19 January 2009 (UTC)
No need to do that, KrytalTomlin. I'm not looking for someone to blame. I don't think this has as much to do with anything that I did so much as something someone else would like to do, and I do administer the DNC pretty consistently, so its just dumb luck that it came up this week.

IRC[edit source]

Since you wouldn't say it on the IRC, I'll ask here. I heard you and several others were discussing my being banned earlier. If true, I'd just like to know what it was you said. I can handle it, I'm a big boy, tie my own shoes and everything. Drake Clawfang 04:22, 19 January 2009 (UTC)

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You are a self aggrandizing troublemaker, Drake. I think you exist to stir the pot. For the life of me, I still don't know what you really do for us other than complain and try to drum up controversy. What I did for last week was no different than what I did the week before. I determined eligibility and removed what violations I could clearly see. The only difference was that one week you were indifferent and the next week I somehow offended you in clearly some big, big way. Like I said, elsewhere, look at my record. I generally am on the losing side, which is statistically unlikely considering the average record will be a winning record in a popularity contest.

And I could ban you, because personal attacks are not permitted (and one might imagine particularly unwise to direct at people with certain reputations). I would say it is a poorly aimed criticism at that. The DNC that you obviously wish to promote yourself to via exploiting my house fire and subsequent character assassination would not have been here for you to enjoy had I not saved it, but as your complaint is without merit, there's no reason for me to be unduly vindictive. You bite the hand that feeds you, and I think very little of that. As cute as your human laser comments are, you clearly do not do as good a job patrolling the DNC, else I wouldn't have anything to fluster you with at the end of the week.

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proposal for full control[edit source]

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First, I would like to thank you for the vote of confidence. Second, I will attempt to further resolve both of these issues this week. I am thinking I may redesign the fight template and change the way that the rules are displayed on the page, as well as amending them slightly. Particularly distasteful was this week's huge rants about last week, etc.
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Computer coding[edit source]

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TacticAngel TALK 22:15, 30 January 2009 (UTC)
That depends a lot on what you have to work with. If you're taking it from a source where you actually had video of Tifa punching Barret in the face, all you'd need to do is use one of those. I you're going to make one by hand, there are programs to do that. One of the more prolific of these is ImageReady, by Adobe, and it comes with the CS package. You can come up with the cells any number of ways, but it is something of an arduous process.
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DNC Layout[edit source]

Noticed it on RC, looks very nice now. I have a small suggestion though. Since there's a small grey-border box on both sides underneath the pictures, why not display the "Winner" message in both, rather than leave the right one blank? Drake Clawfang 16:39, 1 February 2009 (UTC)

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TacticAngel TALK 19:37, 1 February 2009 (UTC)
The picture of the winner, albeit a small one, will go on the right; however, the last one was a draw, so it kid of defeated the purpose of having it.

Informative Fanart[edit source]

I'd like to know what you think about informative fanart, such as the ones seen in the SeeD article (uniform), the Gunblade article (Lion Heart image) and the Garland (Final Fantasy)/Dissidia (PSP) article (Garland's "sword-chucku" image) - although unofficial, being fanart and such, informative as they say, what approach is viable to you? BLUER一番 15:00, 6 February 2009 (UTC)

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TacticAngel TALK 20:29, 8 February 2009 (UTC)
While there are certain arguments to be made for it, how much do we really gain out of this? I would say in each of the cases here, it is minimal if not nil. On top of that, I don't want to get into an argument with people that some of this stuff isn't going to look very professional.

Your Art[edit source]

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Q?[edit source]

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Apparently it didn't accept my first edit... I will fix.

Feldschlacht IV[edit source]

This user Feldschlacht IV has been attempting to start an edit war with me. On the Turks page, there is a section covering two unnamed people who were killed during the investigation in Banora. Because of their suits, the underground nature of the whole Genesis operation, and Tseng's involvement in the investigation, it would be logical to see them as Turks. But he keeps editing that section out over and over, and when I undid it a couple of times, I got fed up, and confronted him about it. I told him why they are quite obviously Turks, and before he replied, he edited it again. He did not attempted to discuss the situation before hand.

Despite not being one of the most solid info, it's still plausible, and all he keeps saying that he's "read the Ultimania" and "every Turk that ever existed was in it" and that it's not possible because of it. However, he has yet to provide any source himself, so that would make his reason self-research, and has no base itself, correct?

Sorry, I always forget to sign. Zalbaag 21:45, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

The source is the Ultimania. If they listed every Turk in it, and they didn't list the "unnamed Turks", then they're probably not Turks. If Cissnei was in there and not them... There is other things which hints the other direction to. Also, TacticAngel isn't the best person to talk to about this. Diablocon would probably be best.  ILHI 21:48, 11 March 2009 (UTC)
Sorry, not familiar with the staff.

He claims the source is the Ultimania. Cool. But if that were true, he would be able to provide proof himself. Plus, it could always be that they decided just to not name those specific Turks. They added quite a few Turks in BC and LO, and they have hardly been used at all. So they may have decided it's not worth it. I'll talk to Diablocon, though. Zalbaag 22:03, 11 March 2009 (UTC)

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