"continued self-advocating"[edit source]

I like to see it more as defending myself since the only time I said anything is when someone made a criticism I disagreed with.

I already gave my opinions on other users. I have no more opinions to give. 15:17, August 16, 2012 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 22:33, August 16, 2012 (UTC)
Thank you, Jbed.

However you want to look at it, I think the case in favor of or in opposition to your staff-ship was fairly well stated by that point. I imagine that will serve effectively as a period in both your need to advocate/defend yourself and the need some people might feel for leveling criticism against you.

And look at it this way, you got the last word.

Halloween Redesign[edit source]

Please comment on a potential redesign for Halloween to get publicity from Wikia. Doreiku Kuroofangu 01:59, October 16, 2012 (UTC)

Bureaucrat request[edit source]

It might seem a bit odd that I'm asking this, but could you look at Forum:A request for admin rights for JBed? Thanks. C A T U S E 06:13, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 07:03, December 4, 2012 (UTC)


Please wait.

Your role as a bcrat isn't to make decisions, it's to respond to the community. Even if you don't agree with the decision, that is irrelevant because there are more uses who do agree. Your opinion is worth equal to any other user. 14:13, December 4, 2012 (UTC)

Unless of course you have something to add that you think would change other's opinions. But the discussion has already occurred and a conclusion found based on the people who were there during the discussion. All that is really wanted from you is to make it happen. 14:15, December 4, 2012 (UTC)
TacticAngel TALK 01:29, December 5, 2012 (UTC)
While that is not demonstrably true, Jbed, that's not at all what I'm talking about, either. I am doing my do diligence. I happen to have it on very good authority that a large number of people find you disruptive, a detriment, and I have been asked numerous times to ban you for your bad behavior, something I have generally abstained from doing.

If you want to go in that direction, democracy, its pretty clear that this is a waste of time. Most of the people who responded said that 'Jbed has other means to accomplish this, through multiple channels.' I can definitely see their point. I know some don't want you to have it because of the questionable way you act. Certainly as you condescend to me while asking me to do something for you, I find my motivation waning.

Let me do my job and do not harass me about this.


Now that you have said something, he has now changed from pondering whether or not to give you bcrat rights or not, to pondering whether to

  1. Not promote you and not say anything, or
  2. Not promote you and reply with something pretty insulting, but probably very funny.

If only you had kept your mouth shut... :) - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 01:30, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

PS: This is a joke. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 01:31, December 5, 2012 (UTC)

"If you want to go in that direction, democracy, its pretty clear that this is a waste of time. Most of the people who responded said that 'Jbed has other means to accomplish this, through multiple channels.'"

Skip to the end of the forum, the part that matters. The original discussion is all irrelevant. I'm not requesting SysOp rights anymore, it's about requesting the new rights specifically for working on site design.

"Certainly as you condescend to me while asking me to do something for you, I find my motivation waning. [...] Let me do my job and do not harass me about this."

Your motivation is irrelevant. You do not have veto power, you perform based on a consensus. Me stating this to you isn't "harassment", it's me saying it how it is. You might not like it, but unfortunately the consensus of the wiki is that the staff's opinions is equal to regular users.

I'm not harassing you and I'm not being condescending, I'm saying things how they really are (or perhaps if I do fit those definitions the intention of my statements are far away making you feel anything). I've explained the role of a bcrat, I've explained how the wiki works on consensus. If you don't give me the rights you are not fulfilling your role as bcrat properly. 17:45, December 7, 2012 (UTC)

"I'm not being condescending...If you don't give me the rights you are not fulfilling your role as bcrat properly." - trolololol. Doreiku Kuroofangu 17:56, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Well, if what I am saying is condescending then it is a necessary evil, right? Because the end message is as a bcrat he should respond to consensus. 18:00, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Well, that depends on if this "necessary evil" is really necessary. Are there immediate CSS problems that need resolving? Is there an important event coming up that we need CSS editors for? If you are not promoted within 24 hours will you spontaneously combust, blowing up your home and causing a chain reaction that will overload the electrical transformers outside and create a world-wide power outage? Doreiku Kuroofangu 18:05, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
What has time got to do with anything? This is not a question of time, but whether the promotion is made at all. The process of the wiki is to find a consensus and let it be done. And it is not time that stops a bcrat from being able to. It's essentially him deciding whether he should veto it or not. And that is not a right the community believes a bcrat should have. 18:09, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Then clearly we have only two options - shut up, let TA get around to it when he feels like it since no one can force him to do anything any more than he could force you or any user could force any other user. Or, we can stage a coup, tie him up with yak intestines and parade him through the streets throwing egg nog on him and launching firecrackers at his balls before finally tossing him in the back of a van and driving him into a pile of explosives. Hmmmm.... Doreiku Kuroofangu 18:20, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
Or I continue responding to TA until he stops responding, with each time he responds challenging what he says and bringing it back to the main point: It is not his job to decide, it his job to follow consensus.
And if afters while nothing happens I can try to start a community discussion to promote another user to bcrat. Because there is clearly a problem if we do not currently have a bcrat who will follow the process of the wiki. But because our wiki is what is nothing will likely come of it because others rarely ever question "higher powers". 18:56, December 7, 2012 (UTC)
WP:NORUSH. C A T U S E 00:46, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
  1. That has nothing to do with this. If you could read the points made on that Wikipedia page and relate it to this situation, that would be super, because I don't see it.
  2. It's not about time. It's about not doing it. TA has no right to overrule consensus. It's been a while since the consensus was found and I didn't say anything, so time is clearly irrelevant. 00:52, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
This whole thing seems to be brought about by Tactic taking a long time. It's not about time, but he needs to think it over.
I don't seem to remember him saying he's going to overrule consensus. Just that he's thinking it over. You probably would too if out of the blue somebody asked you to do something that you've been told not to do countless times. C A T U S E 01:02, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
BlueHighwind TA.png

"TA has no right to overrule consensus" - Who says he's going to? He'll promote you I'm sure - when he feels like getting around to it. But go ahead and keep pestering him and insulting him and telling him how to do his job, I'm sure that'll motivate him to do it sooner. Doreiku Kuroofangu 01:02, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand. If TA truly did mean to get around to doing at some time... and it was inevitable...

No, Catuse. If the process of the wiki says something is going to happen, there is nothing for you to "think over". If there will be damage done to the wiki, then the damage is already being foretold in that consensus. What you are saying is TA will get around to doing it some day. So anything he may be pondering falls into insignificance since it will happen eventually.

So TA, I apologise if I've taken this the wrong way. But your "pondering" comments confused me. I hope you can see how this can easily be seen as you thinking of "making this change or not" as opposed to "when you are making this change".

Although I do have to wonder how when the change is made really matters. Despite holding it off, in the end the same things will happen. Essentially all that changes is when I get a hold of these powers which I am being granted to benefit the wiki. 01:08, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

By that logic, it doesn't matter, and we should make all sysops bureaucrats. But it doesn't work like that. Last admin request, lots of people wanted to make Drake and Jim admins. But Jim was the only one who was made an admin. Because bureaucrats, unlike sysops, have de facto decision-making abilities; they aren't mindless robots. C A T U S E 01:15, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
"By that logic, it doesn't matter, and we should make all sysops bureaucrats."
By what logic? If there is a consensus then all SysOps should be made bcrats.
"Because bureaucrats, unlike sysops, have de facto decision-making abilities; they aren't mindless robots."
This is actually untrue. I linked earlier a thread that said all staff's opinion counts as equal to everyone else's. And as also said by countless users countless times, bcrats are just SysOps who can promote users.
How the staff threads have worked have been slightly different. I believe SysOps and bcrats discussed between them IIRC. But it's to avoid bias, which often happens when debating amongst users. Instead of # people, reasons were given for users and these were instead evaluated. I still think it's an injustice Scathe wasn't promoted to bcrat, because there was a clearly a large consensus for an active bcrat, and Scathe had the most backing. 01:23, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

TA... before you use a Test template you should first read what it says: It is specifically for vandalism and does not apply to this situation. Secondly, before you use a Test template you should first read what it says... or perhaps pay attention to the wiki a little bit because the template clearly says that we don't use test templates any more. 16:29, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think that's the joke. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 20:46, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

That doesn't make sense. 21:39, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
Tidus, look up the definition of joke, because I do not think it means what you think it means. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 22:21, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
<nitpick> Ok, let me rephrase that: "I think that's why he's using it. You know, to piss you off." ._. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 22:22, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
A think a bcrat trolling another user is a worse offense than using outdated templates. 22:41, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
*sigh* He wasn't trolling, JBed's original comments on this were correct. TA didn't realise the template was deprecated until after it was posted. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 22:46, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

I think TA is going to do something on this issue when he gets done moving and his internet is up and running, JBed (since that is something he is doing), so you can probably expect a response sometime late Sunday or Monday, NA time, assuming his internet people are competent and relatively punctual, I suppose. His exact words being:
[13:55:10] <TacticPhone> Eh... I will probably do what he wants and do what a lot of people want once my internet is hooked up
[13:55:32] <TacticPhone> Everyone can be happy then
Jimcloud 22:36, December 8, 2012 (UTC)

That is the course of action I would like to see.
I think it's worth apologising for my responses above. Not that my opinions on the subject are any different, just how big of a deal I made over it. 22:41, December 8, 2012 (UTC)
TacticAngel TALK 03:30, December 12, 2012 (UTC)
I have Comcast. I would not describe them with punctual or competent. Seriously, 27 minute phone call to transfer the service. Turns out it doesn't work. Takes the girl 37 minutes to figure out what the first guy screwed up. She then transfers me to the department that can help me, only they are not open when they do it, so straight into oblivion I go. Finish this up with an hour and a half on the phone with them the next day as they try to trouble shoot my modem, only for them to tell me they have to send a guy out.

In any case, pursuant to my research, I think I can fix anything that JBed breaks. Catuse has agreed to oversee his work as well in case I am not immediately avialable. Pursuant to the rules of the wiki, and repeated warning, JBed has also been blocked for a week.

Pursuant of the rules of the wiki? Don't give me none of that BS.

How can anything happen on this wiki if people get pissy every time someone calls them out for doing something wrong? You shouldn't be using the test templates. 15:38, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

And how can you make comment on the rules and conduct of the wiki when you use test templates? The usage of which is against the rules and conduct of the wiki. 15:41, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 02:18, December 13, 2012 (UTC)
If you're trying to draw some moral equivalency, that is probably not going to work. We don't use the test templates because vandals like to accumulate them and to some degree they are a waste of time, but clearly they have the desired effect here. However improper you feel the method you were informed may have been, you are not acting properly. You have a rather long-standing habit of not acting appropriately. I apologize to those people who have complained about your conduct before, because it is more obvious and easy for me to notice when it is on my own talk page, and that's not a really good excuse on my part.

I will tell you this, as I have told you before.

  • If someone asks you to stop bothering them, you need to do that. Harassment is not tolerated on Wikia in general and here in particular.
  • If an administrator tells you not to do something, then don't do it.
  • Treat others with some basic courtesy. It does not cost you anything.

Abide by these rules, and observe your time-out.

"We don't use the test templates because vandals like to accumulate them and to some degree they are a waste of time, but clearly they have the desired effect here."

I refer back to my original response: They were made for vandals. The test templates specifically say that, and you cannot argue with the wording used. Also desired effect? What are you talking about? Test templates were designed to stack, and since you decided to go in with a Test4 they serve no purpose... other than perhaps to rile me up.

"If someone asks you to stop bothering them, you need to do that. Harassment is not tolerated on Wikia in general and here in particular."

This is according to your view of harassment. But then you also called it harassment when you banned me for criticising what took place when you became bcrat. My criticisms were towards Diablo, not you, and yet because you took offense you banned me.

But as I was saying, your view of harassment doesn't let people disagree with you. After you said you were thinking about it, I responded stating the role of a bcrat. After you responded again, I stated again both responding to you and explaining my viewpoints. You can call it whatever you like, the comments were not intended to harass, they were to get a point across.

"If an administrator tells you not to do something, then don't do it."

Why is that one of your points? I think if anyone says anything then I should take the same consideration into how I respond.

"Treat others with some basic courtesy. It does not cost you anything."

I try. But please re-read the start of this discussion. Cat informs you of a consensus that needs bcrat attention, you make a comment implying you are questioning whether to do it, and then I respond telling you the role of bcrat and how there should be no questioning involved... (unless maybe you were dubious of what happened, or not yet fully informed as you seemed to be by not fully understanding that the forum of the thread was deceiving of the thread outcome).

Then you labelled it as condescending and harassment. But in reality I was telling you the only way I can. I'm not just a user who is going to sit back and let things not happen the way they are supposed to or that I disagree with. I'm going to call out the problems. As I did after a long time of watching the DNC not being managed well, as I did when you were promoted to bcrat, as I am now. And it's not just you, I have made complaint almost every time someone does something wrong or something I question. I'd give examples but that would waste time, and you all know I do it.

So this makes me the bad guy? Apparently so. Part of me likes to think part of the problem is that people automatically feel offended even if my comment isn't written in such a way and that just escalates the situation. Maybe neutral tone in addition to what can be seen as a negative comment just makes it all negative. Maybe I am a horrible writer.

But I want to get a message across. So I'm going to do it.

And giving a cease and desist while giving me something to respond to doesn't exactly help the matter. In the end it just seems one-sided because you have the power and anything I say is just met with admin-fury. 21:34, December 13, 2012 (UTC)

He was the only one who questioned whether this was a good idea or not, but it wasn't that way on IRC the past few days. People just can't be bothered to write their opinions on the wiki for some reason.
That said, socking and walloftexting are probably not ways to win over the bureaucrat's heart. :| C A T U S E 01:06, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
If people don't write on wiki then their opinions are invalid to the wiki (in two+-sided discussions, not all situations). Sure, you can record discussion that happen on IRC, but for the most part, anyone not on IRC or using the wiki can't see it. And therefore it's hardly helpful.
But I'm sure people would rather discuss me where I can't see it. Unlike me. Which of course gets me banned because I prefer to confront things rather than bitch behind closed doors.
I don't want to win him over. I know TA well enough to know that him feeling the least bit insulted will mean he'll stand his ground and won't change anything, and being in the situation of power he'll just escalate it. Even if he's completely wrong, he'll call it harassment and he'll be fine because the other person is harassing him and therefore they are in the wrong.
What I am trying to do is get my point across. Which, if you take out all the harassment discussion out of this conversation, is fairly strong. And I'm not going to back down and stop trying to discuss it while the issues are still there and there is more to discuss. And I'm not going to respect an admin's decision when it is a bad decision. Banning a long-term user is never a good idea, especially when they're still contributing, just because you feel offended when he questions your actions. 16:26, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
Dude, as a friend, I strongly recommend you quiet down, take a week off, and come back to whatever issues you might have once your ban has been completed. I think you really need time off, considering how you're handling this situation. There isn't nothing wiki-related that is required to be fixed this very second, or even this week, or this year, we have all the time in the world to address concerns. However, you aren't ever going to make your case stronger by demanding that you become an Admin. Unfortunately, you've never shown yourself able to follow the rules or work with other people, and giving you unnecessary powers is thought by most to be a dangerous thing. Unfortunately, this isn't a logical black and white thing, if you want something from somebody, you have to show that you're actually mature enough or grateful enough or a team-player enough or even a bullshitter enough (if you want to cast it in that light) to deserve it. Going around bans, even if you think they're unjust, isn't going to build your reputation as somebody who can actually listen to other people.
In the mean time, while you have a week off, play Terranigma, an excellent SNES game where the anime protagonist turns out to be God Almighty at the end. I stronger recommend it. And good luck. ----BlueHighwind 18:43, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
can I just say I get offended when JBed does the whole wall-of-text kick up a fuss BS? Sure its not my FB wall or user talk but its a part of this wiki and everyone can see it. I find this kind of conduct, as benign as it may possibly seem, highly disruptive. There is clearly no need to stir sh*t up with the admin and telling them how to do their job EVEN IF THEY AREN'T DOING IT RIGHT. Also, I get offended because I think TA is doing a fine job and what you did is indeed harassment enough in the sense that it breaks away from order. Its a pretty common sense thing - and applies even in the law (IANAL, yet). If you truly need to get something done, seek the right channel to get it done and let it happen. It doesn't justify the means by which you convey the message (and no, you aren't a horrible writer, you just have low EQ). There is a code of conduct to follow and "Banning a long-term user is never a good idea" is nonsense if you think staying around long enough is going to mean you can bend the rules. Anyway, this is just the opinion of someone who writes on the wiki. What I am trying to do is get my point across. I am truly sorry TA for adding this to your talk, but I guess it's just another drop in the ocean at this point. Cheers --Arciel Spira (talk) 19:06, December 14, 2012 (UTC)
[comment removed by user] 20:08, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

"How am I handling this situation?" - You're handling it by bitching and moaning, which are just making it worse for yourself.

"How should I handle this situation?" - Shutting up, letting your ban run out, and then when it's over you finally have designer powers, which is what all this began over, you wanting them. Well you got them, now you're just arguing for the sake of arguing, and if TA's actions haven't made it clear, you are not going to get your way just by arguing more. Doreiku Kuroofangu 20:17, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

By continuing to come hell or high water make a point of TA's faults, you've effectively magnified your own. It's not productive, and it's not effective. Now I'm questioning myself now do we need a designer who banskips and consistently has a reputation for being so stubborn it's been detrimental to the wiki? You have a week break, in which it would be wisely spent to really think about your priorities here. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 20:47, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

People, take it easy. I know that maybe I'll talk a lot of nonsense in here, specially because I'm not THAT active member and don't know the situation extremely well, anyway: Both sides seem to have exceeded a little in here, as it is common in most conflicts. JBed, I understood that you are only trying to get your point across, but the way you're doing it is not the most pleasant to the others, and I know this because some people in my family are this way, I see the problems this kind of conduct can cause, so I recommend you to calm down and discuss the problem after your user is restored, using this time to gather your arguments in a more collected structure. I also think that this subject shouldn't be discussed while he is out by other users, here or in another place: wait until both sides are ready to point out their views; that is, if there still is something that need to be pointed. That is my personal opinion, and if anyone want to comment, feel free to do it, as I just said that the situation isn't completely clear to me. JC Holy Knight 00:34, December 15, 2012 (UTC)

I agree. I know I've been somewhat of a dick to you, JBed, but I honestly mean it when I say this isn't the way to do things. Just accept your ban, leave it alone, come back soon, and it's all over. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 23:43, December 14, 2012 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 00:01, December 15, 2012 (UTC)
I guess this means I will be resetting the block again today. To whom it may concern, I would listen to the advise of your friends here, because you are not improving your situation and can only stand to make it worse. Example: it is now 8 days, to December 22nd.

And JBed, I'm fairly certain I read somewhere that you were going to respond to me at every opportunity, keep returning here and taking every opportunity to [insert appropriate verb] me until I did whatever he wanted. Now you might not choose harass for that verb, but a lot of people will.

Last but not least, thanks Spira. There's no need to apologize.

Guinea Pigs?[edit source]


Wikia would like to run a small experiment with how we handle search engine traffic for images and I was hoping Final Fantasy Wiki would be able to help us out. You shouldn't notice any user-facing changes, as the test will be on the backend. If anything, we hope there might be a slight uptick in traffic coming to this wiki. Is this something this community could help us out with?

Thanks, --semanticdrifter (help forum | blog) 02:02, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 03:56, January 9, 2013 (UTC)
Sure, we are happy to help. Should we be on the lookout for anything if something goes horribly, horribly wrong?

We don't anticipate anything going horribly, horribly wrong (but then, who does?). The test will involve making some minor changes to the way image files work, so any possible problems will arise on the image front. If that does happen, please notify me directly. Thanks for helping make Wikia better, --semanticdrifter (help forum | blog) 14:57, January 9, 2013 (UTC)

Important News[edit source]

User_talk:Diablocon#Square_Enix_Connections. Doreiku Kuroofangu 01:50, February 23, 2013 (UTC)

Stripping rights[edit source]

Dear TacticAngel, I would like to request you strip rollback rights from some users. They are the following: Bluestarultor, Henryacores, Jimcloud, ScatheMote, and Yuanchosaan.

SysOps have all the rights of rollback, so it is redundant to have them in the rollback group. And I know what you are thinking: Why does it matter? Well there is consistency, you, and a number of other SysOps are not also in the rollback category, so there is consistency.

But does that matter? Well Wikia have shown that they do not like it. They went as far to remove the rights from duplicates at one point.

But it still doesn't effect anything. Well, it does. ListUsers features these SysOps within the Moderators list, and the {{NUMBEROFMODS}} magic word includes these SysOps in the number.

I trust that the lack of a negative, the consistency, the removal of redundancy, and so the aforementioned things may display properly, are sufficient reasons to do this. Thanks in advance. JBed (talk) 18:59, March 10, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, TA, I don't think you saw this. JBed (talk) 15:57, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
TacticAngel TALK 18:34, March 31, 2013 (UTC)
No, I saw it. I do not think there is popular support for such a measure, I do not think most people perceive it as broken, and I personally do not think it is the end of the world that there is some bureaucratic duplication going on in a list, at least not enough to spend a lot of time persuading someone to think otherwise. Plus, if I messed it up, I know the first person who'd be on my talk page or in the forums giving me a hard time.

File under "I" for "If it ain't broke. . ."

Why would I give you a hard time for doing something wrong? I might give you a hard time for knowingly doing something that doesn't follow the order of the wiki.

Shouldn't you assume you are going to get a harder time for not doing this? I don't understand your "if it ain't broke" point, since above I have listed a number of reasons why it is broke. JBed (talk) 18:48, March 31, 2013 (UTC)

TA, I don't understand. I have clearly presented a problem for you. Just the fact that it isn't logical (some SysOps being classed as rollback, while others are not) should be enough. But that is not all, I present you with two reasons why it is broke: The display of ListUsers/rollback displays the SysOps that are classed as rollback (but not the ones that are not), and the NUMBEROFMODS magic word returns a number which includes these some but not all SysOps. Furthermore, a point that I didn't mention because it has no implementation from a practical point of view yet, but if we wanted to target just rollback users with {{ifgroup}}, we cannot do that due to some SysOps being included.

Your "if it ain't broken" line overlooks the fact that it is broken. You cannot genuinely argue otherwise, because there is no benefit and there are clearly visible problems. Do. Your. Job. JBed (talk) 14:16, April 2, 2013 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 01:44, April 3, 2013 (UTC)
Jbed, you'll be happy to know that I ran this by committee again. The general consensus is that this is a smaller issue, one that pretty much no one cares about, much less would notice, but one we could probably look to fix in the future.

Thanks again.

Are you going to C2E2?[edit source]

Hello! We are planning some cool stuff at C2E2 in Chicago in late April and I'd love to share some of what we're doing. Are you available for a quick Skype chat? Let me know what time would work best for you.

(Cshannon (talk) 23:23, March 21, 2013 (UTC))

TacticAngel TALK 23:45, March 21, 2013 (UTC)

Hello. I realize my signature didn't show the Wikia logo. I will back up... I am in the marketing department at Wikia, and we're planning to go to the Chicago Comic & Entertainment Expo this year. We have a lot of great programs queued up, including a SciFi quiz show, a celebrity panel discussion and a cosplay contest. We're looking to invite members of the Wikia community to come out and join us. I'd love to tell you more about this. Let me know if you're interested in a brief Skype chat.

(Cshannon (talk) 13:23, March 22, 2013 (UTC))

TacticAngel TALK 22:59, March 22, 2013 (UTC)
I am going to be at C2E2 on Saturday only. I don't Skype. I'm not sure how important that is. If you would like to pass information along in a less public capacity to me, I'm probably most reachable on e-mail.

C2E2[edit source]

Hey there TacticAngel!

I just saw that you'll be coming to C2E2 and wanted to let you know I'll be there too! I'm sure you've already been in touch with Christy and other Wikia team members, but if you see me and want to say hi or chat about Final Fantasy or anything else, feel free.

See you next week! Jorge (profile)•(talk) 18:58, April 18, 2013 (UTC)

Talk Template[edit source]

Hello. I am Supahbadmarine, an Admin over on the Warhammer 40k fanon wiki. One of your Users recently brought to my attention that the Talk Bubble Template originated with you. Way back one of our Founders asked a user from the Halo wiki whether we could make use of the template on our wiki. at the time the User made false claim of ownership, and granted permission. There was no ill intent on our part. All that being said we would like to make continued use of the template. Is this acceptable? --I am your master! At your service. (talk) 18:18, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 01:34, May 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for contacting us. I know I have tried and some other members have tried to get some things corrected with other wiki owners. We do not mean to limit your use of the talk template, we just prefer that if you are going to use our stuff (talk template or other things) that we are referenced. So yeah, what you're saying is completely ok, and we do not object to your continued use and would be thankful for being referenced as the birthplace of that particular template.

JRPG Webring[edit source]

Hey there. My name is Nic and I'm a member of Wikia's Community Development Team! Are you interested in joining the JRPG Wikia Webring? We created a custom footer that can be embedded on the main page. These webrings help bring cross-traffic across multiple wikis on our site, and can help bring you new viewers and editors!

To embed the template, use this code { {w:JRPGFooter} } - remove spaces between braces. To preview how it looks click here.

Thanks! - Wagnike2 (talk) 11:49, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

TacticAngel TALK 22:58, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I've run this idea past the community. I agree largely with what we have decided. We are ok with the idea of having a template like this at the bottom of our main page, but the size/appearance of it clashes greatly with our desired look for the page. Would it be acceptable if we were to make our own template that contained the same information, but conforms more with our aesthetic preferences?

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