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Naginata vs polearms Edit

When I said it was like comparing a sword to an axe, I weren't kidding. Most polearms have "blades" similar to those of axes or spears (sometimes both, i.e. the halbard). The closest a polearm comes to a naginata, are the voulge and the glaive (and how many knows them?). The only thing that seperate the naginata from those two, is that the naginata has a tang (a thing that connects the blade of a sword to its hilt), whereas the two others are affixed to the pole like axes. Besides, if naginata is the actual name of that type of weapon, then why change it? It's like changing the Katana (for the samurai-class) into a Spatha, it makes no sense. --Hecko X 17:40, 8 October 2006 (UTC)

I've heard in official media that it's a polearm. Crazyswordsman 17:44, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
And I've read about polearms, so I know it's not a polearm. Like I said, it's a double-bladed (or double-sided) naginata, and they aren't polearms. This might be a stretch, but have you ever played Onimusha 2? If you have, do you remember the weapon that could create a small tornado? That's a double-bladed Naginata. And the spear and warhammer he (Juubei) had? They are polearms. --Hecko X 18:02, 8 October 2006 (UTC)
You could technically call them "Swallows." Have you ever played Chrono Cross? --Crazyswordsman 22:42, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
In FFIX I think they are refered to as "Thief Swords". Whether that is the proper terms for them or not, I don't know. But as EA sports says, "If its in the game, its in the game". Thom32 21:14, 5th March 2007 (GMT)
They are. SilverDragon28 18:26, 4 February 2009 (UTC)


I don't understand why someone reverted that Zidane loves Garnet back to "has feelings for". It even says that on Eiko's page and I quote "She falls in love with Zidane Tribal over the course of the journey, and even goes as far as to write a love letter to him, but snaps out of it after a while, seeing that Zidane is in love with Princess Garnet." So can we leave that as it is? - Eileen-

I agree. Since when does Zidane not love Garnet? --Crazyswordsman 22:38, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Agreed.--Goldberry2000 22:56, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Quoted dialog to back it up:
Steiner: "Red Rose!? Could it be...Beatrix!?"
Zidane: "Quite a woman, you fell in love with!"
Steiner: "You're one to talk!"
Dagger: "Wait a minute, Steiner! What did you mean by that!?"
Zidane: "...Alright! Let's bust through!"
--Hecko X 01:27, 17 January 2007 (UTC)

Story Edit

Griever Emblem



Dissidia SeiyuuEdit


Reverse Gaia?Edit

Theatrhythm Ultimate Weapon

Trance? Edit


Bluer's fault, he messed up the character template. Should work now. Drake Clawfang 19:03, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Before you make accusations, Drake, you should go check the template's history. —BLUER一番 19:30, 1 January 2009 (UTC)
Apologies, I just figured it was you since you've been enhancing the character temps lately. Drake Clawfang 19:36, 1 January 2009 (UTC)

Short swords? Edit


Zidane or Zidaine? Edit

On the official Dissidia site, they call Zidane "Zidaine". Just got curious while browsing through the heroes. /Sachy

I am guessing it is just a typo. They spell it "Zidane" in his paragraph.--Oranejo 17:27, 3 June 2009 (UTC)

Zidane=Goku? Edit

FFT-WotL art

You pretty much nailed it on the head, there. - Lost Hero

FFT-Zack sprite

Yeah, I always thought that too, they share so many similarities, and Trance always reminded me of the DBZ concept of "engaging into superior battle forms". Forgot to mention how even their personalities are a bit similar, as they're both cheerful characters who like helping others. I wonder if the Genomes were created to be reference to the Saiyans, because it doesn't make any sense them having those tails. I know we don't work with assumptions or theories here, but wouldn't that be interesting to include in the Wiki? --Bingbangpoe (talk) 05:42, March 29, 2014 (UTC)

Quote Edit

"His only constant is his unpredictabilty." -Amarant Coral's thoughts about Zidane.

I was playing through IX again and this quote got stuck in my mind. I think it's probably the best way to explain him really. BlankTH 08:15, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


This is one of the only Final Fantasy games where a height isn't made for them, so I wanna know everyone's opinions on how tall this awesome little monkey is.

What do our opinions matter? If it is given, it doesn't mean we can just make one up because of our "opinions". Not to be harsh or anything. --Final Aeon 03:47, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

I just want to know how tall everyone thinks he is, that's all.

All characters look pretty small in FFIX due to cartoonish graphics. Kuja is taller than most Gaians are. Amarant is kind of tall too, but he's meant to look hulky. So I'd guess Zidane is the size what people usually are at the age of 16. To me that would be inbetween 175 and 185 cm, depends how people grow. ZaFlareStar 17:38, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia Edit

Regarding the 1st bit of Trivia "While walking around as Zidane, he occasionally turns his head toward several female NPCs. This probably hints at Zidane's womanizing nature." Zidane turns his head toward any NPC, not just females, as he runs past them. Should that line be updated or simply removed? Usmcrave99 19:41, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I personally believe the line should be removed, if that really is the case. Sulu mata engkudu ! 00:35, March 24, 2010 (UTC)
I know I've seen his head turn for Moogles and several male NPCs in addition to females, you just have to run by close enough. Can anyone else currently playing the game help confirm before we remove the line? Usmcrave99 14:32, March 26, 2010 (UTC)
I recall him turning his head for lots of things. I think it was just the game's way of telling you something was there that you can talk to/read. But I haven't played it for about a year, so... - File:FFIII-nes-sage.gif Saethori (T / C) - 12:46, March 27, 2010 (UTC)
I haven't played FF9, so I'll have to see the gameplay through a clip. But I doubt he only turns his head to female NPCs. I mean, seriously ? Sulu mata engkudu ! 12:49, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

While on the subject of trivia. Where it says that it's the only character who doesn't kill a human. I remember cleraly as soon as the second disc being perfectly able to kill Alexandrian soldiers. Aren't they humans? Or is it about MAIN characters?--Kelcius 21:13, May 31, 2011 (UTC)

It's about main characters, I think, and is Zidane in the party when you fight them or not? As i haven't played FF9 in ages. FF9 15:33, July 12, 2011 (UTC)

Tribal? Edit


There's no mention to his surname anywhere. It might be he just took the name or was given the name by Baku. Many stories have characters who don't know their surnames so they just make up one for themselves. ZaFlareStar

I was watching Dissidia videos a while ago, and remembered [1] this. His surname is displayed in the japanese version of Dissidia, so that's probably where the info was found. That, or maybe it was in the Ultimania. Intercision 15:26, April 16, 2010 (UTC)
@ Intervision: It's also written in the PS manual, what I was asking does Zidane know his surname, or did he make one up for himself (in game universe)
@Flare: Thought so, just thought I'd ask: It's been bugging me for a while now, and I couldn't be bothered playing through the game again just for that.
Likeacupcake 15:32, April 16, 2010 (UTC)

Thief Sword and Dagger ability differences. Edit

I stumbled across the assertion in the Type A article that Zidane's Thief Swords don't work with Add Status and his Daggers don't work with Soul Blade. I naturally thought this was ridiculous and tried it out just out of boredom and found that as silly as it sounds, it's true. I'm wondering what places would be appropriate to note this in, because I think it's a big enough game element that it deserves more than a mention on an obscure enemy page. Bluestarultor 03:02, August 5, 2010 (UTC)

That's pretty odd, but now that I think of it, I don't think I ever sleeped an enemy with the Ultima Weapon. Maybe it's a glitch?Keltainentoukokuu 16:22, August 5, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu
It's a constant. I tried it out. Thief Swords never add a status with Add Status and Soul Blade used with a Dagger always misses. I was starting to wonder why Add Status hadn't been working for hours, but I'd been using The Ogre for hours. I didn't start adding statuses again until I got the Gladius. It's currently my only Dagger weapon, but after testing it for a bit, Soul Blade missed every time with it equipped, but worked with the Rune Tooth on the first try. I think it's safe to say it's true, but it's not listed anywhere visible. Bluestarultor 20:42, August 9, 2010 (UTC)
I mean if it's intended as such by the game programmers or if it's an error. Like Steiner's Thunder Slash glitch, this could have its own page if it's a glitch. Guess it's a bit hard to know if it is or not, but as it works differently from all the other characters and it's not mentioned in the "help moogle" in-game, I think it might be a mistake.Keltainentoukokuu 01:30, August 10, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu
While it's not mentioned specifically in-game, as a programmer myself, I'm inclined to think it's intentional. My best guess is that it would require extra code to make them operate differently, and if it were in any way a mistake, it would only affect one or the other, rather than forming a compliment like that. Bluestarultor 01:46, August 10, 2010 (UTC)
Alright, cool. Man, the "help moogle" should really mention it then! Keltainentoukokuu 01:49, August 10, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

I think I'm just going to make note of it based on my own judgment. If anyone throws a fit, I'm sure it'll come back up. Bluestarultor 22:49, August 9, 2010 (UTC)

Here is my 2 cents. The description of Soul Blade says it draws out the power of Thief Swords. Daggers=/=Thief Swords. --Evnyofdeath 16:28, November 19, 2010 (UTC)

Zidane is the only protagonist in the main numbered series to never actually kill a human being in the course of his game. Edit

That's contained in the trivia section but from my knowledge Bartz never kills a human either. Plus gameplay wise, Zidane fights a load of Alexandrian soldiers.-- 13:11, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

I think you fight some human-looking bosses in FFV. But yeah I don't think that trivia is fitting anyway... Alexandrian soldiers and all that. You do try to kill Kuja and Garland in the game, and although neither of them is "human" and you don't actually succeed in killing the, but that is just circumstances, it's not really much different to what you do in other games.Keltainentoukokuu 13:40, August 14, 2011 (UTC)

"Birth Under A Blue Light" Edit

Where does this info that Garland created Zidane with the intent for him to be able to develop emotions and achieve Trance because Kuja couldn't come from? It makes sense to me but I can find nothing in the GameFAQs game script that even mentions Trance with regards to Garland's intentions for Kuja and Zidane, or that Kuja was too ruthless and remorseless for him. Unless someone can provide a source for this it's speculation and should be removed. Doreiku Kuroofangu 01:32, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

It's from Ultimania translations.Keltainentoukokuu 02:00, February 13, 2012 (UTC)
Ah, okay. Thanks. Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:04, February 13, 2012 (UTC)

How do we know it took Zidane Year to return? Edit

Hi there.

Big FFF (Final Fantasy Freak/fan) here, i even use Zidane Tribal as my name in wikipedia and online gaming, now down to business.

In this article and his wikipedia counterpart both hold that it took Zidane a year to return to Alexandria at the end of the game, some fan fics i`ve read hold the same, but where does it say so? is just because I want to be your canary returns? is in Garnet`s 17 birthday?. How do we know it was a year?

I know i`m not registered user here but i haven`t found a single official reference for that, please answer. 06:16, March 1, 2012 (UTC)

This info is not said anywhere in the game or in any other accompanying info. The Final Fantasy IX Ultimania guide comes with a timeline of all events of FFIX--except for the final ending scene. Only clues we have are that enough time has passed for everyone to go on their separate ways and start their new lives, Garnet has grown her hair back, but Eiko is still a little child, and Vivi whose lifespan was estimated at around a year if it's the same as with the other black mages, is 6 months old during FFIX, is not seen in the ending, presumably having met the end of his lifespan before this. Tantalus traditionally comes to Alexandria to perform I Want to be Your Canary on Garnet's birthday, so it can be presumed this is again the case. As Garnet and Zidane and Eiko still look the same, it's easier to presume it's not too much longer than a year, at least.Keltainentoukokuu 17:50, March 1, 2012 (UTC)
All that makes sense to me, haven`t considered the hair of garnet, and the fact that the castle has been reconstructed. it just seems sooo long, since in the game you go from one place to another in such a short time.

Thanks for the answer, it makes more sense now. 00:15, March 2, 2012 (UTC)

Do me and Zidane Tribal have things in common? Edit

Been looking down Zidane's page and we share similar interests.

  • We're both Aerial Aces - I was nearly unmatched online on BF3 and Halo in terms of midair combat.
  • We have interests in women - I am very kind to the female side.
  • We do have the tendency to pinch things - watch where you leave valuable vehicles or things around when im about!
  • We're quite fast on our feet - I like speed, being fast and extremely evasive.
  • We have a strength whilst airborne - I'm good with aircraft but rubbish on the ground.
  • We loathe friendship - I hate loneliness and liked staying connected to my friends.

Physical features

  • We both have blue eyes
  • We do have a slim down profile - curved hips in plain english

But I don't have a tail.

--The Banshee Terror 21:18, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

I too loathe friendship. I loathe it so much. JBed 21:23, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
That explains a lot. Doreiku Kuroofangu 21:26, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
I was taking the piss. I think this user does not know the difference between "love" and "loathe", or made a considerable mistake in what they wrote.
I love friendship. Friendship is very important. Without it you end up like me ;) JBed 21:29, June 10, 2012 (UTC)
This is completely asinine. Forums are that way and your userspace is this way, both of which are more suited for this than the talk pages. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 22:38, June 10, 2012 (UTC)

Zidane = Sun Wukong Edit

Due to his monkey themed characteristics, is it possible that he was inspired by/based on Sun Wukong? The character from the old Chinese novel "Journey to the West." --RiderJones (talk) 01:23, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

very likely, and might be inspired by Son Goku (which is also based on Sun Wukong) from Dragon Ball too. an alien who was sent to conquer the planet but lost his memories and fight to protect it instead. Monterossa (talk) 05:36, October 12, 2014 (UTC)

Airborne Brigade Legend CardsEdit

in the Airborne Brigade Legend Cards gallery, there are two instances of the same card, Media:Grand Lethal Brigade.png is shown twice but the gallery caption says they are different cards when they are clearly not. Captions say SR for the first one and SR+ for the second. but when both are clicked, same file name. DarienLeonhart (talk) 05:54, April 27, 2015 (UTC)

I would like to add that I noticed this again in another legend card, Media:FFAB Lucky Seven - Zidane Legend SR+.png was also repeated twice in the gallery.DarienLeonhart (talk) 06:04, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
No problem. I could have edited it myself removing the duplicates but I had no way of knowing it was a mistake that it ended up like that or if it was intentional.
p.s., I changed files to media format to make comment chain easier to ready. DarienLeonhart (talk) 06:15, April 27, 2015 (UTC)
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