Gilgamesh: Enough expository banter!
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With Kain and Lightning, we have enough to justify subpages for them. We have their EX Modes, we have movesets, we have alt costume info, we have magazine scans of their art and screencaps of them in gameplay. Tifa, we have none of that. We have a single blurry screenshot of her, two lines of dialogue, and nothing else. We know nothing about Tifa except "she's in the game", so there's not enough to warrant a subpage. Yet. Obviously we'll need one in the future, but not now. Doreiku Kuroofangu 20:55, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

This is where the "OH BUT WE'LL NEED THIS PAGE IN THE FUTURE" argument proves its silliness - Henryacores^ 20:58, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

well, thing is we will need it. Why take it down now, and have the stress of having to put it all back up again. with Tifas reveal at the TGS, chances are the next Famitsu or Jump will probably have her art work. Lets just wait till you condemn it to the "Unwanted Subpage After life". its not doing any harm with it being up. and if people add useless information; take the info down. and besides, wouldn't it be nice to already have it up when more info is released later on. Ixbran 21:09, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

"thing is we will need it." - later, we don't need it now.
"Why take it down now, and have the stress of having to put it all back up again" - because there's nothing worth saying now. We have nothing to say except "Tifa's in the game and has been seen talking to Sephiroth"
"Lets just wait till you condemn it to the "Unwanted Subpage After life"." - or we can wait until there's actually real info to make a page with.
Doreiku Kuroofangu 21:12, September 17, 2010 (UTC)
Fail disproved argument right after disprovement is phail. - Henryacores^ 21:12, September 17, 2010 (UTC)

If you ask me, when there's information about a thing, a page is warranted. So it's not even correct to say that the page "will be" needed. It is needed. It's just that it will need additional information to be added later. Consider that in the case of future iterations of this argument.Neo Bahamut 22:21, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

No. DoreikuKuroofangu 22:26, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
"Tifa will be in Dissidia 012. She is seen talking to Sephiroth, although what is being discussed is not known. This article is a stub. You can help the FF Wiki by expanding it!" Easy.Neo Bahamut 22:46, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
Again, no. To be blunt, pretty much everything you said is plain wrong. Also rather silly of you to revive a debate more than six months old to post such ridiculous arguments. DoreikuKuroofangu 22:50, March 30, 2011 (UTC)
This is a procedure & preference issue. "Wrong" does not apply. However, from your position, you gain no benefit from removing a page once it goes up. It is unnecessary effort that could be directed elsewhere & will eventually amount to nothing when the page is added "legitimately." I just said to keep that in mind for when this issue comes up in the future, I did not ask anyone to argue the point with me. Should you choose to discard this, you can do so quietly, but frankly it's a waste of both your time & mine if you choose to rebut me with "No, you're wrong."Neo Bahamut 23:21, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Alt Costumes? Edit

what im expecting to see as Tifas alt costumes are her AC/KH2 costume, her Amano design, and her Cowgirl CC costume as DLC.

minus the gaudy hat of course. with the hat there, it would interfere with her hair animations. Ixbran 05:08, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

You know, believe it or not, this is the exact same two costumes I said would be here alternate looks to my best friend. TheBlueDragoon 05:30, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
We could also see something entirely off the wall. Remember Aya alt for Lightning. Clearly SE is thinking very much outside the box. Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:31, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
Very true Drake. We could see Tifa in anything. TheBlueDragoon 06:10, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Didn't Ehrgeiz Tifa have an alternate outfit that was the cowgirl costume complete with hat? Dazuro 07:03, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe she could get Aerith alt. costume. --BurstDragon 07:22, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

I'd prefer just seeing Aerith. You have no idea what I'd pay for the prospect of seeing her beat the stupid out of Sephy with her staff. XD Bluestarultor 07:27, September 18, 2010 (UTC)
lol --Xcanox 13:30, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Tifa with an Aerith alt huh ...? that actualy sounds like it would be pretty cool! Ixbran 07:34, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

SE could really play around with all the girls looks making them Aerith considering Se can use both her Kingdom Hearts looksSandS Hero 20:04, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia section Edit

It is just a suspicion, not a stated info. We still don't know which character will be confirmed next. It may be Tifa, or it may be someone else. Remember first trailers if Dissidia? Sephiroth appeared at the very end of the first one, yet he was confirmed officially months later. The same may be applied to Tifa. SquallisbetterthanCloud 09:42, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

when he said "next character" he could only be refering to Tifa, because at the time only new characters were announced were Kain and Lightning. Ixbran 09:49, September 18, 2010 (UTC)

Not necessarily. Tifa's only been leaked. He said "the next character to be announced," not "Tifa." Technically, Tifa's inclusion has been shown off to the public, but there hasn't been an "official" announcement; we have no art and no info on her inclusion. For all we know, someone else might be announced next. You can't assume that he could only be referring to Tifa, unless we find out that she's the only other new character that's going to be playable, in which case she's the only character that could be officially announced next. Teamrocketspy621 23:10, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

I'm just saying, that we better wait with such statements for next released character. SquallisbetterthanCloud 09:51, September 18, 2010 (UTC)


Tifa Scan, first new character announced after Lightning and Kain. Trivia should go back up. Ixbran 05:34, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

I tried to remove the background as much as I can so tell me how it is, [1], [2]--BurstDragon 07:08, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Ex ModeEdit

I think the likely case is Tifa's ExMode is "Equipped Premium Heart", with one effect being Preminum Heart (ATK) which boosts Tifa's Brave damage according to the amount of EX Force she currently has in relation to her EX Gauge. Her Exburst could be "Final Heaven" as well. 01:55, September 28, 2010 (UTC)

"thats a pretty cool idea!

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her alt costumes mayy be slightly diffrent, like her AC EX mode could be putting on that pink ribbon from the movie, and her EX mode in her cowgirl outfit could be her putting on her cowgirl hat.

her EX modes could be named diffrently, sort of how clouds are in Dissidia. Equiped Ultima Weapon, and Power of Mako.

lets see

Normal - Equipped Premium Heart

AC - Promise

CC - Power of The West

hahaha, would be awsome!"Ixbran 05:21, October 1, 2010 (UTC)

Alt Outfit image Edit

Tifa's Alt Outfit cropped from a large version of the scan. Good enough for a temp image of it? HarpieSiren 10:02, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

It's the best we have right now, go for it I say!SandS Hero 17:39, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

It's crap: It's blurry and small. Wait for a better one. - Henryacores^ 20:37, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Cloud? who are you!? Edit

Why does Tifa not know Sephiroth, and a more important point why doesn't she know Cloud! Dissidia 012 better have a good explanation for this one! i mean come on her being Cloud's childhood friend was a pretty important factor in VII and now she doesn't know him! or Sephiroth who constantly puts Cloud through so much pain! How are they gonna pull this off then? what have they got planned for her?SandS Hero 17:45, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well the Warrior of Light has no memories of anything in the original Dissidia, plus no one remembers the past cycles of war. So it's not like it's a new concept.Keltainentoukokuu 00:07, October 15, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu
That's one way of looking into it. Or Maybe Tifa does know Cloud, but Cloud dosen't.
It said on her page she may not know Cloud, but in the screen shot of them together the dialogue makes it out that one doesn't know the other, but at the moment we can't tell who's speaking. Either way if one or both don't know each other it will still make an interesting storyline.SandS Hero 20:01, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Picture Edit

Tifa Dissidia Cinema

where did this picture come from? LionLostInTime 08:34, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe the Japanese have a new trailer, but they haven't released it publicly yet. WarMonger89 to bright a shine, shows eyes of envy 08:39, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

I've seen it on a scan - Henryacores^ 18:12, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

Beauty Edit

This woman is very beautiful,very attractive and independent.I like it.Lord of the Dark Depths 21:36, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

I do too, the website even admits her beauty. Marluxia13 22:25, November 28, 2010 (UTC)

That's nice, guys. Take it to the forum. Teamrocketspy621 00:47, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
She isn't that beautiful but she has huge tits. .:. 20:32, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Are you kidding just look at her.Soomth skin,pink rose lips,slender form.She is the very incarnation of beauty.Lord

Allusions section Edit

Should we add the fact that when tifa enters ex mode, the more ex force she has, the stronger her attack. This reflects the original as the higher her limit gauge when the premium heart is equipped, the higher the damage. FF9 22:20, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

I think that qualifies for an allusion.Keltainentoukokuu 22:21, December 25, 2010 (UTC)

Read More PictureEdit

I think this was coincidence, but on the bottom of a random Dissidia page, it says read more and it gives you some choices. When Tifa's article is displayed, the picture zooms on her boobs. Can we please change it to her face? SquallRocks 20:29, December 27, 2010 (UTC)

No, we can't. That's a new feature from Wikia, as far as I know we have no control over the results it generates. DoreikuKuroofangu - Visit the Soul Shrine! 03:04, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
I don't think it's that bad with the Tifa pic actually. Looks like it most commonly takes the first pic that isn't in the info box, so if the Read More pic looks wrong, can try and change the placement of images in the article to have it generate a new Read More pic.Keltainentoukokuu 03:15, December 28, 2010 (UTC)
Chances are when we get a high res model of one of her other alt costumes, then put them together in a single pic like the others, it will show the two together, like it dose with the other Dissidia character profiles. Ixbran 05:32, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
Read the topic better. DoreikuKuroofangu - Visit the Soul Shrine! 05:49, January 10, 2011 (UTC)
Oh please, i know exactly whats going on, and why this topic was posted. I was just suggestion a way to fix the problem. when it comes to the "Read More" pictures for the other Dissidia characters, they usually show the pictures of the fused 'Alt Costume Pictures'. once we get a high res picture Tifa's 3rd alt costume, then put it with the AC Costume, if it fallows the trend of the other Character "Read More Profile" pictures, the problem with the zooming in on her chest should disappear. Ixbran 06:57, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Use Monobook. - Henryacores^ 10:36, January 10, 2011 (UTC)

Fail Edit

just wanted to throw it out here but Amano Tifa outfit without White/silver hair = fail, giving her white/silver hair might have made the outfit interesting... Judge Magister Pyarox 17:44, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

You're dead wrong. That's so fucking sexy. - Henryacores^ 18:52, January 11, 2011 (UTC)


Okay, yes, the Premium Heart gloves have the KH logo on them, but it's not like they have the words 'Kingdom Hearts' emblazoned on them. The gloves have the word 'HEART' in their name. There's no proof if this 'allusion' was done on purpose. So, until we have proof, we should at least add 'but it is unknown if this is intentional or coincidential', if not get rid of it altogether.


TheRealAtman 21:21, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

It's KH all around it. It's just a small allusion. I mean, Cloud has his entire outfit from Kingdom Hearts. - Henryacores^ 21:23, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, as an alternate outfit accessible only through purchasing a Kingdom Hearts game. Not as a default weapon that already existed in the original game and which has no ties to KH but is named after a heart coincidentally. Dazuro 21:26, January 11, 2011 (UTC)

The heart resembles the heart from the Kingdom Hearts logo, but they are not the same. The little spirals inside the head of the heart don't curl all the way up on Premium Heart as they do on the KH logo. They instead curl to the side, outwards to the border. They're similar, but not the same design. Look for yourself:

Kh-logo VS Dissidia-PremiumHeart

Solution: "The heart depicted on Tifa's premium heart resembles the heart on the logo of Kingdom Hearts." Lt.Haven 23:37, March 15, 2011 (UTC)

On a semi-related note, did the Premium Heart look anything like these in FFVII? Because I remember them just being silver gloves.Neo Bahamut 22:27, March 30, 2011 (UTC)

Premium Heart FF7 Dazuro 02:31, March 31, 2011 (UTC)

Portraits? Edit

Does anyone have a picture of a portrait for her third alternate outfit? It just seems weird that we have pictures for all three alternate outfits and yet there's only three portraits. -- 00:31, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

Au contraire. It's an accomplishment that we have so much info so soon. - Henryacores^ 00:40, February 3, 2011 (UTC)
The Amano outfit is DLC, so of course nobody has the portrait for it yet since it hasn't been released for download. Andres 01:38, February 3, 2011 (UTC)

i can't edit Edit

my edits don't go through on this page. just wanted to change some things of her attire. such as instead of saying "this outfit is" just put "it's" because putting "this" is more explaining things visually. like if it were done in person. but it's not, so i thought it could work like with my way. I also wanted to remove "sleeveless" as the common tank top is sleeveless and is redundant to add. and it took me a while to see a white tank top on the alt outfit. so i thought i'd add that it is exposed near the bottom or lower part of her leather vestlike top.Lucia13 17:48, February 11, 2011 (UTC)

Tifa outfit image? Edit

I'm not sure if it's just my computer, but does anyone who looks at the appearance section see tifa's alternate that includes her cowboy outfit in ex-mode. However, when I click on it, it includes the normal cowboy pose from the scans. Can anyone fix this?

I think your mistaken.The image seems fine.--Lord of the Dark Depths 18:17, February 12, 2011 (UTC)

I think you are not mistaken, as I am having the same issue. TheRealAtman

Oh, I'm glad I'm not the only one. Looking at the code, the image should be correct. But for some reason, it shows the original with cowboy in ex-mode. Sometimes, it does show the newer image. While I don't think it's such a big deal, I would like to know why it does this and how to fix it for possible future problems. - Anonymous

Manikin's Title Edit

Is it really Imaginary Girlfriend?

Well, considering the Manikin article says "Imaginary Monk," which, in itself, isn't really a title befitting Tifa regardless of her fighting style, I would say "Imaginary Girlfriend" is probably not confirmed, either. Teamrocketspy621 04:12, March 13, 2011 (UTC)

2P name Edit

Her second alternate outfit is called "Nibelheim Guide." Lukahn of Cornelia 19:16, March 20, 2011 (UTC)


Semantics issue. The first costume isn't called an alternate costume. It's "Normal," "Alt 1," & "Alt 2." 22:14, April 5, 2011 (UTC)


Relations to Kain Edit

Don't you think that Tifa's relationship to Kain is quite similar to her relationship with the Advent Children version of Cloud? I mean both Kain and Cloud wanted to be alone for different reasons, but Tifa later convinces them to trust others and that they're not alone. Spikey09 16:54, March 25, 2011 (UTC)

Timeline Mistake Edit

Under Tifa's story it says she met Sephiroth after her story, which is not true. She fought with him before the main scenario even starts...-- 18:54, April 6, 2011 (UTC)

Her story? Edit

Um...Tifa's story is really lacking in detail. At the part where she fights Ultimecia but Kain intervenes Ultimecia tries to make Tifa distrust Kain by saying that Kain is a turncoat, er, I mean a traitor. The fact that it says on the article that Kain left with Zidane but it doesn't say that Zidane is unconscious because of Kain only makes it rather confusing for anyone reading as to why Tifa confronted Kain afterwards and told him that she trusted him. Can someone fix that? I'm not sure I want to because I'm not even done with her story yet so I'm pretty sure there's more details that have escaped the article. Thanks! --Marael 14:23, April 8, 2011 (UTC)


How many of you guys can guess why you can't zoom in as far as the other characters on Tifa?AlVan 20:46, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure you can zoom equally far on everyone, actually -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 21:32, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Formatting help Edit

Hey, I was having a bit of trouble formatting Tifa's "Moonsault Kick" attack command chart. Can someone please help/take care of it?  Ultimate Dark BahamutAnnihilation  08:45, October 8, 2011 (UTC)

Page Vandalization Edit

What the hell happened to the Tifa page? Isn't anyone fixing this when it's being vandalized? --Nahara 08:46, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

Page restored to last good entry. Let's hope the jerks that vandalized it before will stop. Otherwise, this page needs to be locked to prevent further vandalization. --Nahara 08:51, May 14, 2012 (UTC)

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