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Remember these when listing a status effect:
  • In-game description and mechanics is most important when listing a status effect as Positive or Negative. Just because the computer/players have found a way to manipulate the status effect in our battles doesn't change its connotation. That's fan-interpretation, and it doesn't moot game description.
  • Watch how the spells work in removing them. Positive status is removed by Dispel, Negative by Esuna. Another guide on categorizing status effects.
  • Status effects that have specific healing items to remove them are almost always Negative, especially when an effect can be removed by a Remedy.
  • If the status reoccurs as a Negative, but a Positive in one title, use the recurring connotation.
  • When all these above fail, use your best and wisest judgment.


Trouble[edit source]

What about the status effect 'Troubled' in Final Fantasy IX? Why hasn't anything been written about that. I'm sure there are others but I can't think of them from the top of my head.

These are only recurring statuses. Troubled only appears in one game, so it's not recurring. Crazyswordsman 00:59, 7 October 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for clarifying!

adding troubled to game specific stattus effects section (if itchys on why not troubled) Dstroyer 666 12:14, 22 May 2007 (UTC)

What the f***?[edit source]

Why was this moved? I thought I made it rather clear about why I moved it when I did so a month or so ago. Status ailments and Status enhancements are referred to together as Status effects! There was absolutely no reason to move this article. --Frusion1021 20:20, 21 October 2006 (UTC)

Calm down. The article was moved because it seemed illogical compared to the category (which is called "Status ailments"). Mason just assumed that the category had the right title and moved the article to fit. It was an honest mistake, which was corrected almost immediatly. Also, Mason hasn't been around for that long, so he the only way he could have known you reasons for moving it here, was to check the history tab. But how often do people do that before a move? On a sidenote, I've figured out how to get the Userbox-holder thing to accept two userboxes next to eachother in IE, if you want to set it up like that again. --Hecko X 20:48, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
What about the 'e'? It should be capitalized... --Frusion1021 21:21, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it's not a necessity. When using it in a sentence, you would say "It is immune to status effects". Both "status" and "effect" start with smaller case letters. The searchable title should be like you would write it, if it was in the beginning of a sentence. In titles in the article itself, you can use regular title capitalisation. --Hecko X 21:52, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
And where is this discussion referenced? One would think the talk page or the history tab would be reasonable places to expect such rather clear explanations. Since neither of which have any explanation, I'm going to have to say it was fairly unclear why the page had such a title. If it was moved, why is it not present in the history? It wasn't copy-pasted was it? At least it pointed out the need to rename the category, and the fact that this should have a lowercase e. Mason11987 22:50, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
Actually, it is present in the history tab... You most likely pressed the history tab while viewing this, so what you saw was the history tab of the discussion and not of the article itself. Here is the move entry for the article:

"23:39, 17 August 2006 Frusion1021 (Talk | contribs | block) m (Status ailment moved to Status Effects: Status Ailments and Status Enhancements are generally referred to together as "Status Effects", since they affect your stats... see where I'm going with this?)". --Hecko X 22:59, 21 October 2006 (UTC)
  • Insert offensive name directed towards Mason here* --Frusion1021 02:11, 22 October 2006 (UTC)
And it was a mistake, I still stand by my comment that a page being the "information page" for a category should have the same name, and if there is a reason it doesn't, it's worth mentining on the talk page. I think it'd be useful to be less hostile next time, don't cha think? I'm going to start moving articles in category:Status ailments to Category:Status effects. Mason11987 16:20, 22 October 2006 (UTC)

Pictures[edit source]

I can add picture to this, but you know all I can get is FFTA pictures... and then again I won't be able to get all of them... --Frusion1021 19:47, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

We could make a row of icons or something. Like when a person is inflicted with blind/dark, the little icon that then appears in the character menu, we could use those from each game to show how they've evolved. Though, this is not possible for all of them, and it might be a bit over the top, even for those we could make... --Hecko X 21:36, 29 October 2006 (UTC)
...I just meant that I could get pics of the icons that appear when a character is affected with it... but uh... sure... I guess? Please elaborate... please... --Frusion1021 02:07, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
You pretty much repeated what I said. The only difference is that my statement applied to all the FF-games. Also, by "row of icons", I ment, if we take the icon of the Blind status from the first FF and put it next to the icon of the blind status from FFII, which is next to the icon of the blind status from FFIII, which is next to the blah blah blah... then we would have a row of icons, all depicting the Blind status, but from all the different games of Final Fantasy. See what I mean? As for the "not possible for all of them"-part, I mean, not all buffs/ailments are carried over from battle, so you won't be able get pictures of all of them in every game. --Hecko X 02:37, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
So... have an example of the way a character looks in every game that has the status ailment in it? It'll be kinda big no? --172.146.8.186 03:05, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
Oh damn, I didn't know I wasn't logged in. Sorry. --Frusion1021 03:06, 30 October 2006 (UTC)
No... Not of a character, but of the icon representing that status effect. Like this would be the icon of the status ailment Immobilize in FFTA, and it would be next to the icon of the status ailment Immobilize of another FF game, which would be next to the icon of the status ailment Immobilize of yet another FF game and so on and so forth. --Hecko X 05:59, 30 October 2006 (UTC)

Sadness and Fury?[edit source]

Same for Atheist. I've moved that in the new category. What about Berserk? I know it can be bad a lot of the time but there are some occasions where it can be beneficial. Jeppo 20:10, 30 October 2008 (UTC)
When in doubt, follow the in-game description for the status, or observe which items/spells remove them. Positive is removed with Dispel, Negative is removed with Esuna. Which is why, despite, Reverse in XII is listed as negative in the status template. Bluer 04:36, 31 October 2008 (UTC)

Appearances section?[edit source]

I've just (well, I just earlier today have) hidden the VII manual entry on status effects in the article. I think this article will be much better if it had an Appearances section. As with most articles, the Appearances section will make things actually make sense.  ILHI 00:32, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Do you mean list all the status effects specific to each title, instead of listing what each status roughly does in general? If so, then I agree. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 00:36, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
Pretty much. Talking about statuses in individual games instead of as a whole.  ILHI 00:38, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
What about giving this the same format as Magic School articles? For example, White Magic. - Henryacores^ 00:40, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
That's pretty much what we have here at the moment. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 01:00, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
If you look twice, you'll notice it's divided between Recurring and Game Specific. - Henryacores^ 01:39, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
It's like that on both.  ILHI 14:12, November 22, 2009 (UTC)

Order[edit source]

I don't mean to nitpick, but why is it that the status effects listed on this page are listed in order of Negative - Neutral - Positive when the Status template has them arranged in the order of Positive - Neutral - Negative? It's not a huge problem, but it looks awkward and can be confusing when referring the two of them. Should one of the two be changed so the two of them are similar in order? Jimcloud 07:50, March 6, 2011 (UTC)


Updating Images[edit source]

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Mass Updating?[edit source]

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"List of Final Fantasy X Statuses" or "List of Final Fantasy X Status Effects" (I'm fairly sure either the game or the wiki just refers to them as "statuses" rather than "status effects". Either will do.

I've wanted this for ages but haven't been willing to put the effort into designing them. We'd also need List of Stats pages. Our coverage of stats is horrible on their individual pages because stats always use different names and the stat pages go into no detail. 79.69.207.204 12:58, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, and List of Elements. I feel the tables used on the current element parents would be better suited on a page grouped by game. For example, elements in VII and VIII are completely different-- in VII elements can be set to absorb, double, 1.5, miss, or Death, while in VIII elements are just multipliers. 79.69.207.204 13:20, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
I started to do something like but it's just a tremendous amount of work. I'm thinking keep this article as a parent and then have all the "List of FFVIII Status Effects" etc articles. Status effect mechanisms like some internal infliction chances and other special causes could go either on the parent page or on the list of page... The "list of" page would have all status effects, what they do, how to prevent them, and how to cure them, and how to gain them...then if there is stuff like how to make positive buffs last longer and stuff like that some games have that could go to the same place the mechanics go to... .... .... I have something completed that I could contribute but it is not anywhere near done and I don't really want to continue with it. There's just so much you could include.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 16:30, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
I think a list of status effects page would work better with headers/sections rather than in a table.
Although that is largely because that is how we format our status articles with what can inflict them (ability, enemy ability, etc.).
I would say that I would prefer full information about the Poison status effect in VII to go on a LoVIIStatus page rather than on a Poision(Status)#Final_Fantasy_VII section. As a parent page it's meant to link to more information on each subject. Granted, with statuses it's a little different to other types of article since one appearance of a status is enough for an article (although really- if we had list of status pages from the start (and thus somewhere to put status information for one-appearance statuses) one-appearance to an article wouldn't be a rule.
But my reason for preferring all the information to go on a ListOf page rather than on the Status page is it is easier to compare the mechanics to another status in the same game then it is for the same status in another game. 79.69.207.204 17:05, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
All good points.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:33, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
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Hey there, I'm stuck on FFIV going into the loadstar cave and my 3 characters have this swirl around their heads that I can;t get rid of for some reason. It comes up as a lightning bolt on their status pages. Anyone know how to get rid of this? I tried everything I can think of. Thanks.

Mike

Real quick question to anyone out there who knows better than me. I'm playing FFIV and I've got 2 characters with lightning bolts by their sides, how the hell do I get rid of that ailment\status?

Thanks, Mike

I guess you got "Paralyzed", can be cured by Esuna. See also: Paralysis#Final_Fantasy_IV. Monterossa (talk) 17:17, March 16, 2013 (UTC)

Move[edit source]

This needs to be move for a disambiguation page, its also an option (check current HP, MP, etc) on the main menu of nearly, if not, all games in the series. Fenrir9 (talk) 00:21, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

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