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Spear of Longinus Edit

On a sidenote, "Longinus" is not a weapon, it's the name given to the soldier used the spear to pierce the side of Christ (according to the bible). --Hecko X 15:11, 24 March 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, the Lance is usually called "Spear of Longinus". However, I believe it's only recently Square have started using the name, since in games like X, they changed it to lame names like Spirit Lance. Diablocon 15:16, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
That is because of censorship, I think. The US seem unfond of things that relate to the more well-known religions, such as Christianity. --Hecko X 15:20, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
I'm pretty sure it has nothing to do with censorship, since we have relatively little of that, but more or less with the company not wanting to offend people of their own volition. --TacticAngel 04:29, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Actually, Nintendo had extremely strict censorship policies as it was, and even looking past that, the US has among the strictes censorship rules in the world, so you have relatively much of it... As I understand it, even the "freedom of speach" has even been impared by your censorship-rules. For instance, teachers aren't allowed to talk about religion in any way. Stores must say "happy holidays", because it is a possible offence to say "Merry Christmas" if whomever it is said to does not follow Christianity. Comics, especially older one's, all followed strict rules of how they were allowed to be, like "in the end, good must always prevail", and stuff like that. CSM could probably think of a ton of examples of stuff from e.g. FFVI that were censored. For instance, "Holy" was changed to "pearl", because holy had a religios themes. Pubs were changed to cafés, because pubs are places where alcohol is served and could give impressionable minds the idea to start drinking. Pipe smoking was removed from certain monster graphics because it could give kids the idea of start smoking. Instances of "nudity" were covered up (like Siren "showing" her behind). It wasn't until the ESRB-rating system that much of the censorship was removed from the world of FF. --Hecko X 05:01, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
You're confusing censorship with spinelessness. There's no law saying you can't make reference to religious things. If Nintendo wants to censor itself, thats just because its the prudent thing to do. Selling video games with questionable religious content in a country comprised of 86% Christians is just shooting yourself in the foot. Games that did not do it willingly and had the appearance of psuedo-religious things in them (IE: DOOM) were still sold and savaged by the media. No company enjoys that. Schools do teach lots of things about religion, they simply cannot endorse one religion; freedom of religion not freedom from religion. --TacticAngel 17:30, 26 March 2007 (UTC)
Does no one besides me remember how much Cid cursed in FFVII? A large majority of the censorship placed on the Final Fantasy games that were released for the SNES was put in place by Nintendo, not Squaresoft. As soon as they made the switch to another company's console, Squaresoft basically gave a big "F*** you!" to Nintendo's censorship policies. 98.180.209.248 06:52, 29 March 2009 (UTC)

Jesus Reference Edit

I do not like the reference to Jesus Christ on the discription for the Holy Lance. Would it be possible to just say that that lance is a legendary lance that is holy elemental?

Erm, what dont you like about it? Granted, the description is from the article still refered to the lance as Longinus (see discussion above). Diablocon 21:16, 21 December 2008 (UTC)

Association to Gilgamesh? Edit

In Gilgamesh's transformed state, he appears to be holding 12 weapons not unlike the Legendary weapons. Are they assumed to all be fakes or replicas, or did he steal them...it's never stated.

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