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Kalzroy?[edit source]

In some websites the name is "Sazh Kalzroy". which one is right? and he has afro hair.... - SilverSummonerTaLk 16:15, 14 January 2009 (UTC)

They probably didn't see the small "t" in the fine print. It's in the scan... and "Kalzroy" wont match the kana pronunciation "kattsuroi". —BLUER一番 16:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Amazingly FFXIII manages to make a name nearly as bad as "Wolva Daia-Vanilla", a feat I never thought possible. I think the afro makes up for it, but still that is one butt-ugly name! --BlueHighwind 20:25, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
Probably least silliest name yet. That better be true about the Chicobo living in his afro. XD Diablocon 20:27, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
How the hell do you even pronounce it? "Saj Cats-roy"? I'm just gonna call him "Choco-fro" for now...--ChiefKakashi 20:33, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
The problem with this name is that we all know that is real name is "Dr. Brandon T. Love". --BlueHighwind 20:35, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
This guy really creeps me out. I don't wanna play FFXIII anymore... <shudder> —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|23:17, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
And yet, I wanna play it more. --SCM 23:52, 14 January 2009 (UTC)
I think ChiefKakashi deserves an award for coming up with "Choco-fro." SilverDragon28 01:53, 30 January 2009 (UTC)

The second bkac man in FF history? Note, Rude doesn't count. He's like, both. In FMV footage he's black, in Last Order he's white. --Zack fair 007 00:19, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

What about Reddas? --BlueHighwind 00:27, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Second? Sometimes these ideas bind us to preconceptions that Final Fantasy lacks black men, like we have little Faith. Sometimes we need more faith and not think that SE is in some kind of clan that hates other races, ya know? Diablocon 00:29, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Dude, They are dark skinned. not BLACK. not like African American. 'cept reddas. I forgot him XP.--Zack fair 007 00:51, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
Dark skinned is black last time I checked. You're probably going to have to be more specific, since Cid at least is increadibly dark skinned. Diablocon 00:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)
I am dark-skinned. YET NOT BLACK. --Zack fair 007 02:40, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
What about our favorite General Leo from FFVI? His sprite doesn't look it, but everything else points to black to me. TheMasterFighter 04:37, 4 June 2009 (UTC)

what about: Barret FF7, Kiros FF8, Reddas and ¿Fran? FF12. --bahamut-shin

Barret was the first one he was refering to, I forgot Kiros in my reply and Raijin worked better, I mentioned Reddas and Fran is a woman. Diablocon 00:40, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

oh, sorry! I thought here are talking about black character not only men, and Xande??? is he black or not?. --bahamut-shin

That was an interesting choice. In his concept art, he is literally black, but in game he's blue, but he's not what most people would call black. Diablocon 00:56, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Wow, he looks creepy, I'm really suspicious of him when he's grinning like that o.0 Terra_Homing 01:01, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Sazh is the first one with an Afro at least. Bluetash 07:33, 15 January 2009 (UTC)

Isn't always weird or racist how they give the black character a gun?--Emil Castagnier 01:01, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

No. --BlueHighwind 01:08, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
Considering both Lightning and Snow have been showing using guns, as have the enemy soliders, using anything other than a gun in this world would be rather stupid. Diablocon 17:34, 18 January 2009 (UTC)
cough Snow cough TheMasterFighter 00:46, 9 June 2009 (UTC)
Why would that any sort of racist comment or action? That makes no sense whatsoever. *checks where "Emil Castagnier" links to* Ah. Never mind. Faethinverba volant
I heard nobody unleash their wrath when they gave Laguna a machinegun- somebody with enough time and spite on their hands could have called racism based on the "El Mariachi" series and the fact that "Laguna" is a word in several languages including Italian and Spanish, if they felt compelled to do so.--Kajex Firedrake 01:35, 18 August 2009 (UTC)


Dork Alert[edit source]

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What about Laguna and the Moombas?--Kajex Firedrake 01:36, 18 August 2009 (UTC)
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I see him as a sort of combination of three character types... he's partially comedy relief, a mature person and an old-timer.. He's the one going "I'm too old for this kinda stuff" and throws a joke to keep the situation from going too dark... ——Preceding unsigned comment was added by 91.153.190.222 (talkcontribs) 13:41, 1 August 2010 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~.

The table[edit source]

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His Eidolon[edit source]

Maybe it's Gilgamesh? -- Silver Mage Omega FF5.png 10:49, September 30, 2009 (UTC)

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It hasn't been confirmed yet, but a lot of people are calling it "Surt" or "Surtr", the name of a fire giant in Norse mythology. It would make sense seeing as his ultimate attack is called "Múspell Flame", Múspell being the realm of fire that Surt(r) rules. --Kowen 18:25, October 4, 2009 (UTC)

And lot of people still saying that mankind never landed on Moon... Until Square says his name, it's wiser to not give him names based on rumours MMLN メーマウリアン 06:07, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
Oh, I'm not trying to say that it should be mentioned in the article or anything, it was just a bit of speculation based on his special attacks. --Kowen 21:40, October 5, 2009 (UTC)
But unfortunately, lot of others thinks so :P MMLN メーマウリアン 05:55, October 6, 2009 (UTC)

Musical theme[edit source]

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Loooooove. - Paramina 19:37, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Sazh? Over Lighning? Dissidia Sequel?[edit source]

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Template Issues[edit source]

Firstly, his picture is strangely large in comparison to everyone elses, and totally throws off the setting of the article with all this {{-}} nonsense, thus creating unecessary white space. Is everyone okay if I just... make it smaller?

Secondly, "Age: 32/40" what the hell guys?! Which is he? 32 or 40? If one source cites the Ultimania, shouldn't we use that? Or if we're still deciding between the two ages, we shouldn't put any age down until we properly know, because "32/40" is insane. - Paramina 01:46, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

what do ya all think Sahz over Lightning?[edit source]

not a very good idea if you ask me. i mean lightning is the main protagonist its just like saying zell over squall or berret over cloud.

In my opinion Sazh is a very interesting character, since he is the most relatable character to the players and even though isn't billed as the "main character" like Lightning isn't exactly undershadowed in the games storyline. I can easily see why he would be considered over Lightning for Disidia II. Also remember FFXIII is a very different game compared to the earlier ones, especially in terms of characterisation. Whereas in FF7 & FF8 Cloud and Squall had the most focus in the storyline whereas Barret has a much smaller impact on the plot and Zells placement is overshadowed by Squalls role. You'd be hard pressed to say the same about Lightning in comparison to any of the party in FFXIII who were present in the first few chapters.(Arvilino 21:35, April 17, 2010 (UTC))

Sazh right outshines many FF characters in the regard that he's far more realistic than most characters in the franchise, which gives him a very refreshing and unique air, not to mention he's growing in popularity quite a lot. In addition, heavy implications say that the next Dissidia game isn't going to revolve around the central protagonist and antagonist like last time.

Besides, Dissidia does need a black guy x: Kaihedgie 00:16, May 5, 2010 (UTC)

Xigbar reference?[edit source]

A full attack bar, will make Sazh combine his 2 gund into a rifle and shot the enemy with it. I think it's a reference to Xigbar from Kingdom Hearts 2, also designed by Nomura. In the Japanese version of KH2, when you fight him, and he goes into "sniping mode", he combines his 2 pistols into a single rifle. Worth adding into the Trivia section? — Poki#3 My Talk Page :o, 23:10, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

I don't think so, close but other than that one thing there's nothing, so no I don't think it is a ref. Likeacupcake 09:25, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Kingdom Hearts Mobile Outfits[edit source]

See this and this.

I grabbed it from Message from the Kingdom, KH's official blog, cleaned it and posted it on KH. Sazh and Vanille are the only FFXIII characters, which I know of, to have avatars on KHM. Think we should make mention of this ? Sulu mata engkudu ! 08:26, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Conditions for Sazh combining his guns?[edit source]

This has been bugging me. Just when does he do it? He doesn't for his Blitz, and he certainly doesn't just attacking normally that I've noticed. I know the combining guns in the KH games got censored. Did that happen here as well, or am I missing something? Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon.png BSA 06:01, October 27, 2010 (UTC)

He seems to do it randomly, but only on the last shot of his attack animations. - Paramina 08:08, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
I think he always does it on the last attack if it's a chain of at least... four (IIRC) Attack commands. Uninterrupted chain, mind you. I don't think it's random; Lightning's equivalent "special action" for an Attack chain, which is firing her gunblade, is reliable rather than intermittent, IIRC, and I don't see why Sazh would be different -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 14:19, October 27, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah Sazh always does it for the final fire. Lightning and Snow also have "finishers", right? Lightning with the backflip + fire the gunblade like Mr. Nobody said, and Snow jumps into the air and hits down with both fists. Don't remember about Fang, though she can take her weapon apart and no one uses Vanille or Hope for physical attackers because their weapons flying around the screen is annoying enough. ;)Keltainentoukokuu 02:34, October 28, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

Xbox Avatar[edit source]

Is it worth mentioning in the trivia that you can download Sazh to be your Xbox Live Avatar (minus the chocobo)? Tia-Lewise 20:22, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

I am not exactly sure, but I think yes, we should. Look for example at Cloud Strife#Trivia. Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 20:33, October 7, 2011 (UTC)

XIII-2[edit source]

Can we be sure that his and Dajh's appearance was a flashback? I distinctly Fang and Vanille's scenes having that flashback kind of haze over it, and Sazh and Dajh had no suck haze--ShadowsTwilightDissicon ff4 Kain1.png13:58, October 14, 2011 (UTC)

Sazh in Academia 4XX?[edit source]

Ok, so I've played through XIII-2 100% and played the "Heads or Tails?" DLC and I never saw the scene that this screenshot is from. What ever happened to this? CWK34 20:12, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Obviously Academia 4XX

Possibly a dummied content: had no use or "was a paradox itself" and Square abandoned the idea. Or just to show that Sazh is in...—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 20:40, February 29, 2012 (UTC)

Strange Similarity[edit source]

So, right now I'm playing a game called Tales of Graces F, and during one of the side quests we meet a group of three people: Joe, Annie, and Kaz.

This is Kaz: http://oi41.tinypic.com/fwt3xh.jpg

So the similarities are found include:

  • Kaz rhymes with Sazh
  • Kaz has an afro, with a baby bird on it (a Peepit), and Sazh has an afro with a baby chocobo in it

Not a lot, but that is still too strange. I'm not saying one was inspired by the other, but something seems rather too coincidental about it, I suppose.

- (StrawberryFlower (talk) 04:08, September 22, 2014 (UTC))

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