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Forgive all the edits I'm doing, I'm just trying to fix up an FFIV character template. I'm using Rydia as a test. Crazyswordsman 20:54, 9 March 2006 (UTC)
Rydia falls in love with Edge?[edit source]
According to the Settei Siryou, she does. --Crazyswordsman 05:40, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- I thought it was the other way round, because it's pretty obvious Edge has feelings for her. Rydia just usually seems to ignore poor Edge. Diablocon 10:53, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
- It says she has "vague affection for him, eventually." --Crazyswordsman 15:28, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
Awww thats so cute it would be nice if she did fall in love with him (22.214.171.124 18:11, 21 April 2009 (UTC))
- Not only cute, but its the only way it can be not creepy: Out of all the main characters who matter at the end, Edge is the only one who hadnt known rydia as a young child. While I always wanted her to get with Kain, and thus spawn Dragon-Summoning Dragoons with which to take over the world. But that would be very creepy. 126.96.36.199 00:04, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, but I think you should check back the reference you mentioned above. I was really happy when you said she had 'vague affections' for him. But could you please confirm that by showing the reference? The last time I checked, it said Edge was the one who had feelings for her, in the settei siryou, i mean. Please correct me if I'm wrong, I really want to know if she has feelings for him. 18:11, 29 November 2009
i think that at the end of final fantasy 4 that edges adviser person told edge not to chase after that girl he likes scince rosa and cecil are married it has to be rydia Yuffiesboyfreind 18:19, December 20, 2011 (UTC)
GBA Version[edit source]
Hey, is there a way to list the special items they receive in the GBA version to allow them to change their commands? I know the Mist Ring has the Mist Dragon give everyone the Blink effect. I saw you mention about the "Harmonius Ring" in Edward's profile. I also saw the "Twin Stars" sometimes allows Palom and Porom to cast W-Meteo(Meteor) through their twin command. Dunno bout the others, though.
--Chris 00:04, 7 April 2007 (UTC)
Flow of time[edit source]
An annon made an odd edit. They claim that the passage of time doesn't flow faster in the land of the summons, that Rydia just grew up faster there. Now, correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't Rydia specifically tell you that time flows faster there? Saying she just grew up faster there doesn't seem to make as much sense.
DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity."
TALK - The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother?
Actually, that anon's thoughts are the same as mine. She grew up faster in the Land Of Summons, and still had the personality of a child. That is why she always shuns Edge's advances, for though her body has matured, she has never had any attractions that equal those of Edge's. This also explains why she acts entirely the same as she did as a child. More later.
Taken from the game script: Rydia: The Feymarch - the place they call home. I livded among them and befriended them. I can't use white magic anymore, but my summoning and black magic have grown stronger. Time flows differently in the Feymarch, though...
Rosa: So that's why you've grown so much?
She doesn't say explicitly but I think it is made clear that it has to do with a different flow of time. She appears different because time flows different. Since she grew up, it means time flows faster. The page for Feymarch says the same thing too.
The reason she shuns Edge could just be because she doesn't like him. --Cid of the Lufaine 18:41, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
- Actually, I think thats the whole reason Edge likes her. Edge seems to be quite used to being overly assertive and getting his way, while also being protected from consequences. So when Rydia slaps him down verbally, he rarely responds but does comply -- clearly, this is new for him. Given the personality, it wouldnt surprise me one bit that the girls at home were just as eager to please him as everyone else in Eblan. Compare that to rydia who simply doesnt seem to give in to his wants, who isnt wholly submissive to him, and who doesnt care much about his Prince title. Edge seems like the type to go for that -- well, actually of course we all know he's sexy and gay, but still it fits in the genreal model...(Yes, yes he is. No one who calls themselves a ninja while wearing purple pastels could be straight.) 188.8.131.52 00:13, June 5, 2011 (UTC)
I remember having a few debates about this with a friend years ago. His impression was that regardless of how she looks, her mentality would probably be the same. The increase in age had nothing to do with "fan service" because back then stuff like that didn't impact sales. (pity it's changed...) Time flowed faster there, making her age physically, not mentally. Listen to Rydia talk after she rejoins you, she still sounds like she's a child. One possibility why she doesn't look much older in the sequel is because Summoners age different to normal Humans (or whatever they are), or it could also be that she didn't age physically until time had caught up to her. Some people also just naturally age well.--184.108.40.206 08:09, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
Where do the weight measurements come from?
This site has Rydia listed at: Age 7 Height 3' 6" Weight 40 lbs
I am American so lets forget about m&kg just for the sake of conversation.
Average 4 Year Old Girl: Height 3' 5.75" Weight 38.75 lbs
Average 7 Year Old Girl: Height 4' 0"Weight 53.5 lbs
Even if she were incredibly small this would put her somewhere near the 4th percentile for 7 year olds. If there is some form of documentation indicating that all characters are abnormally small in FFIV then I have not read it before. Also while it is possible, I have never heard that Rydia was not a humanoid of standard proportions. The callers of Mist appear to be a tribe rather than a new species, so I don't see why she would be so small.
Source: BabyBag.com http://www.babybag.com/articles/htwt_av.htm
--User:Microphone 10:41, 8 Nov 2007 (EST)
See that word "average"? Well Rydia is certainly not an average seven-year-old. So she was a little scrawny as a little girl, it happens. Secondly she is not an American, she isn't even of our world. She comes from FFIV, which may or may not have different growth rates for their humans. Who knows?
Hell, Cecil was only 130 pounds, IIRC. People in FF4 are just scrawny.
Logic, in MY Final Fantasy? Never.Besides, she could be normal for a 7-year-old Japanese girl. Either way, this is fantasy, it doesn't have to make sense.
Found it. From the Ultimania thingy:
Cecil - Age: 20 Height: 178 cm [about 5'10"] Weight: 58 kg [about 128 lb.]
Kain - Age: 21 Height: 183 cm [about 6'] Weight: 61 kg [about 134½ lb.]
Rydia - Age: 7 Height: 107 cm [about 3'6"] Weight: 18 kg [about 40 lb.]So yeah. FF4 is a land of midgets.
Did we ever find out how old she after she returned from the Feymarch, and do you think it affected her aging? Because in The After, Rydia is the only one who looks like she didn't age significantly (or at all. It was supposed to be seventeen years, after all).
Not unless it's stated in one of the Ultimania guides. None of the games ever mention a specific age. As for her aging (or lack thereof), maybe she doesn't age now because something about being in the Feymarch messed up her natural aging? Or maybe Square just didn't want to ruin her appeal as fan service. - RadLink5
Well, she does age regularly between FFIV and The After, so, because there's a 17 year gap in between the two, should we put that she is really 24, but looks about 37()?
That's probably why The After takes place seventeen years later. SE figured it was creepy to use a seven-year old (she technically was) as fanservice. With that aside, I can only agree with you. The only changes made to Rydia in The After that I can see is that her hair is longer, her boobs are bigger, and she's wearing less clothes. That just screams fanservice. (Not that I'm complaining...)
Fourteen-year old fanservice is only slightly less creepy though. Also she was already fan service to most people. - RadLink5
Since she looks about 20 as an adult, should we put that she is chronilogically 24, but physically 37 in The After?
But she doesn't look 37 in The After. The Feymarch f*cked up her aging. Badly.
Rosa doesn't look like she's in her 30s either, nor do Cecil and Edge. Actual extra time passed in the Feymarch. Unless you can demonstrate that her aging is actually somehow slowed from her time in the Feymarch, there's nothing to this.Ryushikaze 23:20, 13 February 2009 (UTC)
Gotta agree with Ryu on this one. Drake Clawfang 00:13, 14 February 2009 (UTC)
Cecil, Rosa, and Edge definitely look like they're in thier 30s. Rydia doesn't. That's my argument. We're never going to get an answer from SE, face it. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 05:33, September 3, 2009 (UTC)
This shit about the aging always screw the fans mind. It is not here the only problem with aging characters even for other series like Dragon Ball Z with Trunks firstly, the Trunks of the future was 17 and he looked 17 there while the one from GT was 25 around and looked 17 but the Trunks from the future was 18 after training in the time chamber and after training again was 19 and he was looking like 20. see a real problem that a Trunks 25 years old looks younger than one with 19. (T_T):Really don't understand these things.But then again, we are just fans, what can we do?
It really is a shame they had to keep changing her design around. It's been one of the reasons I just couldn't come to like the newer versions/sequels as much. I wish these games didn't rely so heavily on fanservice. Rydia seemed to wear more clothing in the earlier versions as opposed to the latest remake and the sequel. It's kinda like how impractical Rosa's outfits became, especially as a mage. I realize that's not quite on the subject of aging. I always had the impresion she was simply teenaged looking in the game when she got older (physically), but when you stop to think about it.. just cause she's older looking doesn't mean she's actually older age-wise. Anyone remember Emeralda from Xenogears? She jumps from child to adult in a very similar fashion (although I believe it was related to nanobots in that), but she's still a child because there's been no "passage of years" as it were. I really don't think Rydia's as old as some people are assuming she is. Then again, the nice thing about sprites back in the day was that they could reflect a variety of ages.--220.127.116.11 08:16, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
What? Her remake's outfit is 100% identical to her original concept art. For both Rosa and Rydia. And hell, Rosa gained more clothes in the sequel. Dazuro 10:02, March 5, 2011 (UTC)
White Magic[edit source]
Sadly I can't find any forthcoming information on what White spells Rydia learns when in the original and DS releases, because she learns more spells at different levels in the DS release. Can someone who knows this information add it to the article? Drake Clawfang 22:04, 15 June 2009 (UTC)
"Try looking for some walkthroughs if you want to know".
Thank you for providing useless advice to a problem that has already been solved. Drake Clawfang 13:47, 11 July 2009 (UTC)
in the earlier version of final fantasy 4,(snes, gba) rydia could equip bows. i know because i have played them.--18.104.22.168 14:06, September 11, 2010 (UTC)
Ages and looks[edit source]
OK. Can some please tell me what her age is because it driving me nuts! I know she 7 years old, but!
--Cb13/ZeroX 23:23, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
- She lived for several years in a place where time goes faster. She's not 7 in that form. Bluestarultor BSA 23:41, November 27, 2010 (UTC)
OOOOOHHHH (Time paradox, go figure ).--Cb13/ZeroX 17:25, November 28, 2010 (UTC)
NOW I KNOW WHY IT DIDN'T SAY THAT IN THERE. BECAUSE SHE HAS NO CHARACTER AND APPEARANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!--Cb13 (talk) 01:44, January 18, 2011 (UTC)
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Amano art[edit source]
I wish you guys wouldn't stubbornly insist on using the Amano art as her portrait. Let face it, it's appalling. Can't we use DS artwork for everyone and then Amano for Cid, Fusoya and Tellah since they don't have DS renders?
I know that means losing uniformity in all the pages but the core character's pages will look the same (and better).
Also another issue is that we need to add an Appearance and Personality section, as per every other main character on the wiki. 22.214.171.124 10:52, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
No. Your motives are based on personal appreciation of the images, while the current state bases itself on consistency. It is also a standard to use artwork rather than CG images. - Henryacores^ 10:57, May 9, 2011 (UTC)
Mist Dragon?[edit source]
In the gallery at the bottom of her page, there's a pic of Rydia and "Mist Dragon". However, there is lot's of water, the dragon has a serpentine body and no wings. Wouldn't it have to be Leviathan, King of the Eidolons? Sure, it'd make more sense if it was Mist Dragon, but Leviathan makes sense too since he is not only the king of the place the made her age to an adult (which is how she appears in the pic), but the guy that took her there in the first place. WestleyCole 16:11, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
Normally, your eyes would be able to discern such simple things, but the DS doesn't like to make things so simple.
This is a picture of the Mist Dragon.
This is a picture of Leviathan.
I will be honest about the similarities and even point out that the Mist Dragon "breathes" his attack like in the video where as I don't think Leviathan has ever "breathed" water, but I still gotta say Leviathan. That looks like water to me. I suppose the popular vote will be left, but it looks like Leviathan to me. WestleyCole 16:48, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
- What I mean, is, the Leviathan picture has a bluish head and red horns, something that the creature with Rydia just doesn't have, it's completely white with one blue frill. It also doesn't have the scales that the leviathan picture has, which makes me think there's really no way it could be Leviathan. Jimcloud 16:54, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
Mist Dragon is a Japanese dragon in the DS version. "Like these other Asian dragons, most Japanese ones are water deities associated with rainfall and bodies of water, and are typically depicted as large, wingless, serpentine creatures with clawed feet."Keltainentoukokuu 17:00, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, I saw what you meant, Jimcloud. That was the similarites I mentioned. Probably should've clarified that before... Anyway, for the most part I agree, but the water is also there. I imagine it *could* be mist, or maybe not and Keltainentoukokuu's explanation could be right, too. I just don't think so. I guess it's just a difference of opinion at this point. I still think it's Leviathan, but that's just me. You're certainly free to leave it as is. WestleyCole 17:11, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
As far as I can tell, Leviathan doesn't even have arms, but fins. Mist Dragon does have arms. I think the answer should be obvious now, though I figured as such from the color alone. - Flintlock Vitor 17:32, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
And I'm amazed no one said this before: there is no reason for Rydia to be able to summon Leviathan in that FMV. Why? Because she doesn't learn to summon him during the story. Mist Dragon is part of the plot at several points in the story. However, to summon Leviathan, you need to complete a side-quest. So it doesn't make sense to put Leviathan instead of Mist Dragon in that the opening FMV of the game. KujaRhapsodos 18:01, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
It's obviously the Mist Dragon in the FMV. 1) Leviathan's signature attack is not a breath. 2) Leviathan is NEVER plain white. 3) Leviathan is not one of adult Rydia's default Eidolons. 4) Radiant Breath's summon sequence a lot like the FMV scene. - Henryacores^ 19:28, May 20, 2011 (UTC)
The Rydia Paradox[edit source]
What the Maenad would have happened if Kain stabbed Rydia back in FF4? I really need to know, I am a conspiracy theorist and Master Mime with an adoring love for Ceodore and a mortal hatred for The Creator. So please, if Kain stabbed Rydia, what'd the phenomens be?
(Well for starters none of us would be here)