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His name[]
Technically, shouldn't it be Red XIII that is in the AKA section, considering that was his given name by Hojo and Nanaki was (presumably) his birth name? Lord Patrick 11:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- Maybe. For Balthier, he is listed with his proper name, and his fake name in inverted commas, so I guess the same can be done here. Problem being though, Nanaki is a singular name. Diablocon 11:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
- @Patrick: He is known as Red XIII in the booklet and as his default name, so that is what the player usually knows him as. If we were to only use birth names, then Princess Garnet would be known as Sarah
- @Diablo: The Balthier article should have Ffamran Mid Bunansa in the AKA box as well, since he is never known as Ffamran 'Balthier' Mid Bunansa ;)StijnX 11:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
If we knew his last name we could do that with Red XIIIKaospyri 23:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
ok, what does his name 'nanaki' actually mean in japanese, it seems to eastern sounding not to have a translatable meaning. yoshiyuki17
Whata-WHAT![]
"right before a horrible experiment with him and Aeris" O.o um.....why does that sound so very very wrong? What in the hell was this "experiment"? I ask because I will never get to play FF7, so I'm never going to learn what it is. | |||
If I recall, Prof. Hojo was going to interbreed Aeris with Red.. err... is interbreed the right word? | |||
Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 16:16, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
"Two species. Both are on the brink of extinction." | |||
I had a feeling it was that....yha, some people say FF7 was the day Square went downhill. They would be right. | |||
Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 16:40, 27 August 2007 (UTC) | |||
It is right. | |||
DrakemasterDrake - "I would rather live a short life of glory than a long one of obscurity." TALK - The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? The clock on this site is so messed up, why bother? | |||
If they started going downhill with VII then they kept on going and hit rock-bottom with XII. | |||
This article explains a VERY disturbing drawing on the internet....Kaospyri 23:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
- Lotta those, out there. If Square did indeed start going downhill, as some are saying, they hit a marginal upward spike with IX, at least. I end by saying "when you think about it... it could be much, much worse."--Kajex Firedrake 11:02, 10 April 2009 (UTC)
If ff6 is superior to ff7, than ff13 had some effort put into it...and it didn't... wouldn't that going downhill have been at ff10 when they first started half-assing their work? and especially when they hit ff13 when they just flat out stopped trying? ff7 is far more balanced than ff6, making it automatically superior in my book (because comeon half the cast in ff6 can wipe out most everything in a single hit right from the start, I mean the dude that uses the machines kills everything with his first couple of weapons, magic is absolutely pointless (I mena lets face it, the magical characters, if you can call them that, all can pretty much wipe the enemy clean with standard melee... ff7 at least has some challenge, and an equally apeasing storyline, though I admit the characters themselves are probably some of the blandest in the series of games, I swear they did more work on the nearly excluded characters than most characters in the game (except for probably NANAKI, who has the saddest story in the game and we don't even know what the hell he is.) also...everyone seems to be excluding ff8 which was absolutely amazing (superior to ff7 in every way) and ff9 was spectacular...both games had an obviously great deal of work and thought put into them, I get not everyone likes ff8 (for strange reasons usually... I mean I loved the mechanics, and they functioned better/smoother than previous games...) but you can't not like ff9...I mean come on...
Odd intro[]
This paragraph was just added: He is the survivor of a tribe that protects the planet, who lives in Cosmo Canyon. Due to the rare traits that he possessed such as an extraordinarily long lifespan of a few hundred years, his command of human speech despite being a beast, and his advanced intellect, he became an experiment sample of Hojo. Though he was fearful since he was but an adolescent, in reality he harbored the need to "become an adult as soon as possible in order to protect the hometown's valley", a feeling that bordered on impatience. Red XIII was the tentative name affixed by Hojo to manage the experiment sample. The name was derived from Nanaki's body that was as red as flames and the number 13 used to distinguish between experimental subjects. Amongst them, those of which are judged to be a success have the tattoo of a distinguishing number on some part of their body. In the case of Red XIII, it is engraved on his left shoulder. When Red XIII joins the party in FFVII, he had lost his right eye due to an injury. On the other hand, his right eye appears intact during his appearance in BC. It is thinkable that the wound on his right eye was inflicted during the one year where he was captured by ShinRa in BC and treated as an experiment sample, prior to his meeting with Cloud in FFVII. However, it doesn't really state anything new that isn't said in the story section. Also, it seems to keep repeating itself. I could trim it down and turn it into a "Personality" section, but it wouldn't be that long. | |||
That's very much likelyKaospyri 23:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Advent children error[]
it says the opening where nanaki roars is 500 years after the events of FF7, but the movie takes place only 2 years after the game.. also, has anybody noticed that they are pretty much giving him hardly a mention in anything FF7 besides the main game? I think he deserved more than a sentince in the movie and a breif apearance in dirge of cerberus.
The opening is 500 years later. Pay attention, because seconds later it says "498 years earlier". | |||
He gets the least screen time BECAUSE he has fur which costs a lot to animate. --Zack fair 007 03:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)
From the comment above: Is that pulled from somewhere because I thought he had just as much "screen time" as the rest of the cast did. | |||
in my opinion he doesnt have enough dialouge or screen time in even the main game. he's a great character but his impact and role in the story is almost non exsistint. would of been much more interesting if they had kept the clones Oni Dark Link 17:56, December 19, 2009 (UTC)
Limit Breaks[]
A part in the Limit Breaks section is wrong as, somehow, I managed to achieve Howling Moon before Earth Rave on my copy of FFVII, maybe it's just my copy, I don't know | |||
What the Hell *Is* He Anyway?[]
Seriously, WTF is Nanaki?
I have a theory, a real one, for you anime fans; he's a youkai. Youkai are Japanese animal spirits in Japanese mythos, and are popular fodder in anime and manga (you'd be a fool not to notice Nomura's artwork follows manga designs). Youkai in modern culture, are depicted as animals, or humanoids with animal qualities, and are highly intelligent, have a great connection to nature, have supernatural powers, and are extremely long lived. I'm just saying, that seems to fit Red XIII to me. | |||
if he isn't wtf should the forum call his species????do we make something up or wat?Kaospyri 23:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Naming a New Page[]
Drake just mentioned something about not being able to make a page for the lack of a name on my Talk Page, which reminds me something I've been meaning to have a discussion about. I want to make a page for the Red XIII species, but I have no idea what to name it. "Red XIII's Species"? "Red XIII's Race"? "Wolf-Cats"? Or should I forget about it altogether? | |||
I think a page should be made, but they never name the damn thing, so...
If we had to settle on a name, I'd say "Lion". That's the only certain animal name used to refer to him. | |||
or Youkai as Drake mentioned in the article above..Kaospyri 23:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)
Age[]
1stclasswarrior - Meus vita , meus diligo , meus lily of sanctimonia... TALK - 12:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
How do we know it was 1959? VII could be set in the yeay 2800 for all we know of that world. | |||
BlueHighwind Q? 12:59, 14 March 2009 (UTC) TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ: | |||
Its set in Demember, 2007 to January, 2008. | |||
1stclasswarrior - Meus vita , meus diligo , meus lily of sanctimonia... TALK - 13:33, 14 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
How do we know that? The game gives no evidence of that at all. | |||
BlueHighwind Q? 13:36, 14 March 2009 (UTC) TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ: | |||
Yeah, I know, but the 10th Aniversary Ultimania does: http://ultimania.ff7compilation.net/timeline.php . Maybe it won't kill Square to mention some of this in a real game next time. | |||
1stclasswarrior - Meus vita , meus diligo , meus lily of sanctimonia... TALK - 13:39, 14 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
Yeah. The evidence is there. Who are Ultimania? | |||
BlueHighwind Q? 13:44, 14 March 2009 (UTC) TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ: | |||
A publication that Square sends out for most of the games, which gives all sorts of background info. Of course, they never once cared to release any of those things outside of Japan, since we all know that the Yamamoto Race are the only beings capable of understanding such deep insights. | |||
{{Chris |time=14:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC) |text=You can find both "Even though he is 48 in human years, his age is comparable to around 15 to 16 years old by his own species' standards and is very wise." and "Age: 48 (≈15-16 in human years)" in the article. Which is the right one?}}
I think the reason things like years, height, age are inconsistant and not mentioned because they really aren't all that important. You have to make a lot of assumptions in games and that is part of the fun. nitpicking at little things kind of ruins my interpretation of the characters.--BigCubby 13:22, October 29, 2009 (UTC)
0008?[]
why is it that on all the FFVII character pages it says blahblah blahblablablah 0008 or 0007? Shouldn't they say 2008 or whatever year the subject happened in?--Dark Noo Noo 15:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
- No. Because the official year system starts again at a certain point in time. It's not actually that odd. I just don't know why they chose 2000 to start again. ILHI 16:38, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
It's for the 10th anniversary thing. Used to be FF7 took place in 1997, and all the other dates were based on that. For the 10th anniversary, they just moved all the dates ten years later. Drake Clawfang 16:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)
Yes but in the above section they say "2009" and in some pages it says 2009 but in others it says 0009.--"I thought i would pretend i was one of those deaf-mutes (:p" 19:07, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to assume it's a typo that got copied by a lot of different people and ballooned into a long series of typos. As for which version is the typo, I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect Drake Clawfang is correct and 2007 is correct. There is no such year as 0008. If the year were single digit, it would obviously just be 8.LockeZ 08:54, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
AC: Complete?[]
Did he get any more screen time for AC:C? Just wondering, since it should be noted if so. Exdeath64 03:40, January 21, 2010 (UTC)
Oldest playable characters[]
HarpieSiren - "There's not a thing I don't cherish!" TALK - {{{time}}} - It's not heavy. It's... a memento | |||
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Nanaki = Anakin[]
Is there any actual proof, such as interviews, something in the Ultimania, ect, that Nanaki was meant to be an anagram of Anakin? Just because Biggs and Wedge is a recurring reference, doesn't mean that everything else must be a reference. It could just be a coincidence. HarpieSiren 01:04, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- Likely not, but I can't say for sure. Why would Red XIII reference Anakin? If there was any connection or similarity at all it could be plausible, but it's simply not. ScatheMote 01:11, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
- It's just something that's been circulating for a while. It's an anagram. Given Square's habit of putting in SW references - B&W, Piett, Necron's Yoda speech, possible ships in IV, Martine/Dodonna, Nida/Needa translations and the Locke/Celes exchange - it seems to obviously fit in there. To argue that it doesn't work because Nanaki is nothing like Anakin is a baseless argument, Piet is nothing like his namesake, nor is Nida (Needa in Japanese) or Martine (Dodonna in Japanese).
- And for the record, I'm not some cool hardcore Star Wars fan who is desperate to keep this trivia in. I just think it should be considered before it's mindlessly removed for "speculation". And if it is, the we'll have to scrap the majority of SW references in other articles, because I'm pretty sure they've never been confirmed either (still looking for an interview confirming B&W, maintenant) - Paramina 01:19, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
Since this has recently become an issue again, no, there's no possible way it's an anagram of "Anakin." Not in the Japanese, anyway. The letters in his name are arranged in groups of full sounds - "Na-na-ki" - rather than the individual letters - "N-a-n-a-k-i" - required to complete the anagram. The writing of his name in the Japanese completely precludes the notion that any anagram was intended. Bluestarultor BSA 08:12, February 14, 2011 (UTC)
- It still works with the sounds. There's no rule saying they have to spell it out by letter, so-to-speak.
- It still works because they could have derived it in English before converting it to Katakana. Also consider that Red Squadron in Episode 4 had 12 members, including Luke at #5. The reference implies Anakin was the honorary 13th member. There is no proof of this, but I honestly don't think it should be ruled out as a coincidence at least. Yrusama (talk) 23:35, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
- And what does Red Squadron have to do with anything? Doreiku Kuroofangu 11:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
- It has 12 members, from Red 1 to Red 12. Anakin's son is a member. It's loose, but the character, being named both Red 13 and Nanaki, acts as a coincidental double-reference. It's a fairly well-known coincidence, and I don't see why everyone is so opposed to mentioning it. It's an idea that has gathered a notable following, so it should at most be put in Triva because it's unofficial.
- And what does Red Squadron have to do with anything? Doreiku Kuroofangu 11:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
- It still works because they could have derived it in English before converting it to Katakana. Also consider that Red Squadron in Episode 4 had 12 members, including Luke at #5. The reference implies Anakin was the honorary 13th member. There is no proof of this, but I honestly don't think it should be ruled out as a coincidence at least. Yrusama (talk) 23:35, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
Sephiroth Clone[]
See the end of the absurdly lengthy discussion under Talk:Sephiroth Clones for the justification of this. At least it's at the end right now. I'm referring to the unsigned post which quotes the list of clones from the Ultimania, which indicates that Red XIII was "one who was [once inaccurately] concluded to be like them". If you disagree, continue the debate on that talk page, not this one.LockeZ 09:03, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
Does Red have a pink ribbon in honor of Aerith in AC? I don't remember ever seeing him wear one, but if he does, could someone add a picture of it? I don't see any mention of it in his article either.
- I don't think so. Where'd you read that? (Oh, and please sign your posts with ~~~~. Thanks) C A T U S E04:06, November 27, 2011 (UTC)
Appearance section "Tattoo" uncited contradiction[]
Currently the appearance section contains
As Red XIII's father also has a similar tattoo to Red XIII's, it can be taken to be the symbol of their tribe.
But this directly contradicts in game text and the story synopsis that affirms that it was placed on him via Hojo.
- It means the "tribal tattoo" ; just the number tattoo is from Hojo.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:53, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
- Rewrote it a bit to clarify!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:57, 5 June 2021 (UTC)