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This talk page is used for discussing improvements to the page "Red XIII". It is not the place for general discussion or sharing stories about the topic of this article.

His name[]

Technically, shouldn't it be Red XIII that is in the AKA section, considering that was his given name by Hojo and Nanaki was (presumably) his birth name? Lord Patrick 11:16, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

Maybe. For Balthier, he is listed with his proper name, and his fake name in inverted commas, so I guess the same can be done here. Problem being though, Nanaki is a singular name. Diablocon 11:19, 11 April 2007 (UTC)
@Patrick: He is known as Red XIII in the booklet and as his default name, so that is what the player usually knows him as. If we were to only use birth names, then Princess Garnet would be known as Sarah
@Diablo: The Balthier article should have Ffamran Mid Bunansa in the AKA box as well, since he is never known as Ffamran 'Balthier' Mid Bunansa ;)StijnX 11:22, 11 April 2007 (UTC)

If we knew his last name we could do that with Red XIIIKaospyri 23:16, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

ok, what does his name 'nanaki' actually mean in japanese, it seems to eastern sounding not to have a translatable meaning. yoshiyuki17

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This article explains a VERY disturbing drawing on the internet....Kaospyri 23:18, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Lotta those, out there. If Square did indeed start going downhill, as some are saying, they hit a marginal upward spike with IX, at least. I end by saying "when you think about it... it could be much, much worse."--Kajex Firedrake 11:02, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

If ff6 is superior to ff7, than ff13 had some effort put into it...and it didn't... wouldn't that going downhill have been at ff10 when they first started half-assing their work? and especially when they hit ff13 when they just flat out stopped trying? ff7 is far more balanced than ff6, making it automatically superior in my book (because comeon half the cast in ff6 can wipe out most everything in a single hit right from the start, I mean the dude that uses the machines kills everything with his first couple of weapons, magic is absolutely pointless (I mena lets face it, the magical characters, if you can call them that, all can pretty much wipe the enemy clean with standard melee... ff7 at least has some challenge, and an equally apeasing storyline, though I admit the characters themselves are probably some of the blandest in the series of games, I swear they did more work on the nearly excluded characters than most characters in the game (except for probably NANAKI, who has the saddest story in the game and we don't even know what the hell he is.) also...everyone seems to be excluding ff8 which was absolutely amazing (superior to ff7 in every way) and ff9 was spectacular...both games had an obviously great deal of work and thought put into them, I get not everyone likes ff8 (for strange reasons usually... I mean I loved the mechanics, and they functioned better/smoother than previous games...) but you can't not like ff9...I mean come on...

Odd intro[]

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That's very much likelyKaospyri 23:22, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Advent children error[]

it says the opening where nanaki roars is 500 years after the events of FF7, but the movie takes place only 2 years after the game.. also, has anybody noticed that they are pretty much giving him hardly a mention in anything FF7 besides the main game? I think he deserved more than a sentince in the movie and a breif apearance in dirge of cerberus.

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He gets the least screen time BECAUSE he has fur which costs a lot to animate. --Zack fair 007 03:15, 6 November 2008 (UTC)

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in my opinion he doesnt have enough dialouge or screen time in even the main game. he's a great character but his impact and role in the story is almost non exsistint. would of been much more interesting if they had kept the clones Oni Dark Link 17:56, December 19, 2009 (UTC)

Limit Breaks[]

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What the Hell *Is* He Anyway?[]

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if he isn't wtf should the forum call his species????do we make something up or wat?Kaospyri 23:13, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Naming a New Page[]

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or Youkai as Drake mentioned in the article above..Kaospyri 23:20, 16 March 2009 (UTC)

Age[]

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{{Chris |time=14:51, 18 March 2009 (UTC) |text=You can find both "Even though he is 48 in human years, his age is comparable to around 15 to 16 years old by his own species' standards and is very wise." and "Age: 48 (≈15-16 in human years)" in the article. Which is the right one?}}

I think the reason things like years, height, age are inconsistant and not mentioned because they really aren't all that important. You have to make a lot of assumptions in games and that is part of the fun. nitpicking at little things kind of ruins my interpretation of the characters.--BigCubby 13:22, October 29, 2009 (UTC)

0008?[]

why is it that on all the FFVII character pages it says blahblah blahblablablah 0008 or 0007? Shouldn't they say 2008 or whatever year the subject happened in?--Dark Noo Noo 15:31, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

No. Because the official year system starts again at a certain point in time. It's not actually that odd. I just don't know why they chose 2000 to start again.  ILHI 16:38, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

It's for the 10th anniversary thing. Used to be FF7 took place in 1997, and all the other dates were based on that. For the 10th anniversary, they just moved all the dates ten years later. Drake Clawfang 16:51, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

Yes but in the above section they say "2009" and in some pages it says 2009 but in others it says 0009.--"I thought i would pretend i was one of those deaf-mutes (:p" 19:07, March 7, 2010 (UTC)

I'm going to assume it's a typo that got copied by a lot of different people and ballooned into a long series of typos. As for which version is the typo, I'm not entirely sure, but I suspect Drake Clawfang is correct and 2007 is correct. There is no such year as 0008. If the year were single digit, it would obviously just be 8.LockeZ 08:54, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

AC: Complete?[]

Did he get any more screen time for AC:C? Just wondering, since it should be noted if so. Exdeath64 03:40, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Oldest playable characters[]

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Nanaki = Anakin[]

Is there any actual proof, such as interviews, something in the Ultimania, ect, that Nanaki was meant to be an anagram of Anakin? Just because Biggs and Wedge is a recurring reference, doesn't mean that everything else must be a reference. It could just be a coincidence. HarpieSiren 01:04, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Likely not, but I can't say for sure. Why would Red XIII reference Anakin? If there was any connection or similarity at all it could be plausible, but it's simply not. ScatheMote 01:11, June 10, 2010 (UTC)
It's just something that's been circulating for a while. It's an anagram. Given Square's habit of putting in SW references - B&W, Piett, Necron's Yoda speech, possible ships in IV, Martine/Dodonna, Nida/Needa translations and the Locke/Celes exchange - it seems to obviously fit in there. To argue that it doesn't work because Nanaki is nothing like Anakin is a baseless argument, Piet is nothing like his namesake, nor is Nida (Needa in Japanese) or Martine (Dodonna in Japanese).
And for the record, I'm not some cool hardcore Star Wars fan who is desperate to keep this trivia in. I just think it should be considered before it's mindlessly removed for "speculation". And if it is, the we'll have to scrap the majority of SW references in other articles, because I'm pretty sure they've never been confirmed either (still looking for an interview confirming B&W, maintenant) - Paramina 01:19, June 10, 2010 (UTC)

Since this has recently become an issue again, no, there's no possible way it's an anagram of "Anakin." Not in the Japanese, anyway. The letters in his name are arranged in groups of full sounds - "Na-na-ki" - rather than the individual letters - "N-a-n-a-k-i" - required to complete the anagram. The writing of his name in the Japanese completely precludes the notion that any anagram was intended. Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 08:12, February 14, 2011 (UTC)

It still works with the sounds. There's no rule saying they have to spell it out by letter, so-to-speak.
It still works because they could have derived it in English before converting it to Katakana. Also consider that Red Squadron in Episode 4 had 12 members, including Luke at #5. The reference implies Anakin was the honorary 13th member. There is no proof of this, but I honestly don't think it should be ruled out as a coincidence at least. Yrusama (talk) 23:35, July 19, 2012 (UTC)
And what does Red Squadron have to do with anything? Doreiku Kuroofangu 11:42, July 20, 2012 (UTC)
It has 12 members, from Red 1 to Red 12. Anakin's son is a member. It's loose, but the character, being named both Red 13 and Nanaki, acts as a coincidental double-reference. It's a fairly well-known coincidence, and I don't see why everyone is so opposed to mentioning it. It's an idea that has gathered a notable following, so it should at most be put in Triva because it's unofficial.
Sorry, but in my book any bit of trivia, like the recent explosive Versus XIII rumor, deserves mentioning simply because it's interesting. This conversation is making me wonder what other neat little tidbits the wiki community is hiding. Yrusama (talk) 04:57, July 21, 2012 (UTC)
You'll notice I didn't revert it, by the way. I've said my peace, but anyone else that wants to take up this issue is free to. Yrusama (talk) 05:04, July 21, 2012 (UTC)

Sephiroth Clone[]

See the end of the absurdly lengthy discussion under Talk:Sephiroth Clones for the justification of this. At least it's at the end right now. I'm referring to the unsigned post which quotes the list of clones from the Ultimania, which indicates that Red XIII was "one who was [once inaccurately] concluded to be like them". If you disagree, continue the debate on that talk page, not this one.LockeZ 09:03, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Does Red have a pink ribbon in honor of Aerith in AC? I don't remember ever seeing him wear one, but if he does, could someone add a picture of it? I don't see any mention of it in his article either.

I don't think so. Where'd you read that? (Oh, and please sign your posts with ~~~~. Thanks) C A T U S E04:06, November 27, 2011 (UTC)

Appearance section "Tattoo" uncited contradiction[]

Currently the appearance section contains

As Red XIII's father also has a similar tattoo to Red XIII's, it can be taken to be the symbol of their tribe.

But this directly contradicts in game text and the story synopsis that affirms that it was placed on him via Hojo.

It means the "tribal tattoo" Seto Artwork; just the number tattoo is from Hojo.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:53, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
Rewrote it a bit to clarify!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:57, 5 June 2021 (UTC)
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