Talk: Ravager (Tactics A2)

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		Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 19:02, 8 September 2007 (UTC)



		While I still think this is totally hilarious, perhaps a little page protection is in order? I could see random people wanting to vandalize this page due to its title.


		LaZodiac - Doink! TALK - 21:04, 8 September 2007 (UTC)



		Agreeded. And wow....Gria is the basterd job. Makes me wonder what strangeness the Seeqs will bring...


		Goldberry2000 - That was a rhetorical question, and the answer was my fist TALK - Sandbox 10:33, 9 September 2007 (UTC)



		I can't believe this; they won't leave it as Bastard in the US and EU versions, no way. Hillarious though.

You do know its named after a Bastard Sword, not the word you're thinking of ~Chocobo Knight

Of course people know what they were trying to get at, but it's still funny for being a) a cross-cultural mistake and b) wrong. --77.99.30.226 11:05, 15 October 2007 (UTC)

Yeah, I know, just checking. And I agree with what was stated above...it will definitely be changed for English translation! ~Chocobo Knight


		BlueHighwind ^Q? TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ:



		What's so bad about Bastards? Me and Leonardo Da Vinci take offense at this whole conversation.

The English name is Ravager[edit source]

Screenshot here as proof: http://image.com.com/gamespot/images/2008/169/937330_20080618_screen008.jpg


		Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 13:38, 20 June 2008 (UTC)



		Damn you Square of America!


		BlueHighwind ^Q? TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ:



		I could take FFX-2, Vaan, Cait Sith, and even the Compilation of FFVII, but this is going too far! How could they?


		Oath To Order TALK - {{{time}}}



		If I'm not mistaken, Ravager and Bonecrusher (one of this jobs abilities) are both the names of Decepticons from Transformers.


		Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 15:05, 20 June 2008 (UTC)



		Bonecrusher is one of the constucticons. There is no Ravager however. You must be thinking of Ravage. I advise everyone to read the TF Wiki. :)


		Cal05000 - Call Me Facky TALK - {{{time}}}



		If You Think About It Ravager is Just As Bad.

Formula?[edit source]


		A.X.A - "We cast away priceless time in dreams, born of imagination, fed upon illusion, and put to death by reality". ^{14:33, March 15, 2010 (UTC)}



		The Full Assault says to have a very potent power that even make the user fall asleep. any one knows if there is a special formula for it?

http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae44/uppfinnarn/Random%20Pics/NefariousAvatar2.png


		Uppfinnarn ^{TALK SITE ANIME LIST MANGA LIST} - 16:05, March 15, 2010 (UTC) beep The Number you have called is no longer available. Leave a message after the tone, and you'll find your house in an ocean of fire. —Nagi, Hayate no Gotoku!



		I don't know the exact formula, but I know it deals equal amount of damage as the Half Accuracy-attacks


		A.X.A - "We cast away priceless time in dreams, born of imagination, fed upon illusion, and put to death by reality". ^{16:10, March 15, 2010 (UTC)}



		I'm quite sure that you're wrong sadly. It sometimes deal less than the attack command or even more but not so high.

http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae44/uppfinnarn/Random%20Pics/NefariousAvatar2.png


		Uppfinnarn ^{TALK SITE ANIME LIST MANGA LIST} - 16:14, March 15, 2010 (UTC) beep The Number you have called is no longer available. Leave a message after the tone, and you'll find your house in an ocean of fire. —Nagi, Hayate no Gotoku!



		Full Assault is just plain weak, like the Defender's moves it hurts you, and it's a weak attack. It would be fun to have a formula, but since no one actually uses that attack(except for Vaan's Flank in Pirate Problems) it's unnecessary.

Reason for name change?[edit source]

While I'm pretty sure censorship was a factor, I'm guessing it's not the entire story. It seems that, in Japanese pop culture, the word has much stronger "giant sword" connotations (the Bastard! manga, Yu-Gi-Oh's Bastard Blader card, localized as Buster Blader, Cloud's Bastard Sword, localized as Buster Sword, the Bastard / Ravager class etc.) and much weaker "scoundrel" and "secret kid from an extramarital affair" connotations, this, a name which is probably fairly intuitive and evocative to a Japanese audience would seem bizarre, ambiguous and unintuitive to an anglophone audience. TL;DR: I'm guessing it would be more accurate to say that the class was probably renamed in the English version because the name is somewhat vulgar and a different meaning and connotations in English. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:17, November 14, 2012 (UTC)