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Question[]

BigCubby: This is a question for the article and personal knowledge. Since Garland (IX) in the game is considered to be the same Garland(I); Is Sarah(IX) the same Sarah(I) then? Or is it just a name thing?

BigCubby: I could be wrong but I was always led to believe they were the same person. I forgot where I read it though. It was somewhere on this wikia though im sure because he says something in IX that relates to one of his actions or something in I. I could be wrong though. I haven't beaten the game in at least 3 years so my info could be off.

Serah Farron[]

Would she be considered to be a "Sarah"? Since Serah is a corruption of Sarah and the Japanese names are very similar. 65.202.140.69 21:10, October 7, 2009 (UTC)

I just thought of this too, she ought to be mentioned. Anyone object? Drake Clawfang 21:56, November 9, 2009 (UTC)

She may not have the "princess" title, but Serah still bears the name. Drake Clawfang 19:39, November 20, 2009 (UTC)

Unless we find out that Mr. and Mrs. Farron were the King and Queen of Cocoon, or something, I'd say leave it off the page. Even then, her name isn't one of the two widely accepted spellings. I'd say it's unintentional. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 20:09, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
... And? This page is a page about recurring princesses called "Sarah" and things similar. Serah matches the ""Sarah" or things similar" thing, but she's not a princess, at least, I don't think she is.  ILHI 20:11, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
We note "Sid" on the Cid page. Drake Clawfang 20:28, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
And that is perfectly fine. Just as Sara and Serah would be fine in this page... but Sara is a princess and Serah isn't.  ILHI 20:43, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
There's no Princess Sarah in FF9 either. There's a Princess Garnet.... Drake Clawfang 20:44, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
Whose real name is "Sarah", a VERY clear reference to "Princess Sarah". I wouldn't call Serah a clear reference to former Princess Sarahs. A possible reference, but currently, she has no relevance to any royalty, so it wouldn't make sense.  ILHI 20:55, November 20, 2009 (UTC)
We've got a hero of light from a spin-off though; is that considered a princess? Aerlight 19:16, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Since the game takes place in medieval times and the character in question lives in a kingdom, it's a very likely possibility. But of course there isn't any way to be sure until the game is released. The fact that it's a spinoff doesn't really have anything to do with it. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 19:29, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
I added the fact it was a spin-off for clarification. And just because they're in a medieval kingdom doesn't make them royalty. Also, this page comes up when you search 'Sarah', so in interest of user-friendliness (is that a word?), if anyone misspells 'Serah', wouldn't it be prudent to make a mention of her here?Aerlight 19:36, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
Unlike Wikipedia, we don't make redirects to compensate for spelling errors, it's just our policy. Serah is not a princess, therefore she does not get a mention here. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 19:48, August 20, 2010 (UTC)
The Sarah from Final Fantasy Legends... isn't necessarily a princess either. Also, should we remove the redirection from 'Sarah' in that case, as Serah is essentially the name Sarah, just like Sid comes under Cid.Aerlight 19:57, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

We don't yet know the Sarah in FFLegends is a princess either. Speculation = no-no. Doreiku Kuroofangu 20:06, August 20, 2010 (UTC)

I think we should place information on top of the page saying something like: "You might be looking for Serah Farron, a female with similar name". I suppose it would be the best choice and there wouldn't be any "wars" of adding and removing "Final Fantasy XIII" section.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 17:20, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
Why would someone looking for Serah stray here? 80.42.243.3 17:40, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
What, like a disambig? R8.50Mango 17:44, November 29, 2010 (UTC)
No, they're called "Notes". It's what we do when we can't be bothered to disambig, or something's notability prevails heavily over another... so we can't be bothered to disambig. Warrior, Blizzard, Raijin [NOTE: All those pages have since been moved].
This doesn't fit into this situation. If you're looking for "Serah", then you won't come across this page before one of them. Since Serah Farron isn't a Pricess Sarah appearance/reference, it has no right on this page, and people shouldn't expect to find it here. So there's no nead for it whatsoever. 80.42.243.3 17:54, November 29, 2010 (UTC)

Serah's role in FFXIII can be seen a similar to that of the Princess Sarahs in I and III:

  • You meet her early on
  • Serah and Snow are engaged, whereas Ingus and Sarah have some implied relationship
  • Princess Sarah (FFI) is essentially the catalyst of the whole adventure - as is Serah
  • The Warriors of Light in FFI return to Sarah - while one of Lightning's party's objectives is to restore Serah

I think the parallel runs deeper than just a corrupted name (which is incredibly close in Japanese - Sera vs. Sēra). If nothing else, it should be mentioned as an allusion or trivia on this page and Serah's. --Hoogathy 13:01, May 8, 2011 (UTC)

I think Serah Farron is one of the Sarah's. who said it has to be a princess to be qualified as a Sarah? it's like saying you need to be an engineer to be able to be a Cid but Cid in FF Tactics is not an engineer. so why don't just change the article name from Princess Sarah to Sarah? Monterossa (talk) 07:54, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Because this page is meant to cover the princesses. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 08:16, March 9, 2013 (UTC)

Chrono Trigger[]

^I was thinking this as well. CT's Sara deserves a mention.

Saethori (T / C) 00:36, December 18, 2009 (UTC)
Believe in the future, and persist in the present, that's what I'll do!
Hm... but this is SquareEnix we're talking about, who loves their inter-series cameos, so this might have enough validity as a "Non-Final Fantasy Appearance". After all, if Biggs and Wedge got one...

Split[]

Taking into consideration her FFT appearance, I think it's high time FF1 Sarah gets her own page and keep this a straight parent page. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 02:50, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good idea. Looks like Sarah from Dimensions will also get a page, ny what I understand she's a playable character there too.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 03:18, July 13, 2012 (UTC)
Which will be done once the english release comes out. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:23, July 13, 2012 (UTC)

I also support a page for FFI Sarah!—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 16:06, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

Agreed. (I also still think Serah should be here but let's not get into that again ;p) Drake Clawfang 16:41, October 25, 2012 (UTC)
I agree with Drake, but then again, who am I to argue against the almighty you-know-who? xD Yes, FF1 Sarah needs her own article now. Tia-Lewise 17:58, October 25, 2012 (UTC)

If no-one has made the article for FFI Sarah, I will do it tomorrow after I'll return from the uni. And seriously, Serah should be included here as well: might as well throw a poll of-sorts here and see how the voting will go.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 22:37, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

I don't understand why people think Serah should be here. On a recurring page about character's who are princesses called Sarah (or of variation), why would you want Serah here? It makes perfect sense not to be here (not being a princess), and it's hardly of detriment not being here (y'know, being a page about princesses called Sarah and all). 79.69.202.64 22:44, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Sarah (セーラ, Sēra)/Serah (セラ, Sera): that's the first thing; there's only one letter of difference. The second thing is that they have support role in the games they appear, often are tied to the game's progress, and appear as playable characters (as seen in FFIX and Dimensions). It's a bit like Sword Dance/Blade Torrent thing: they may have a bit bit different name, but they're the same in the essence.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 22:51, December 2, 2012 (UTC)

Yet Serah has not a drop of royal blood. - Henryacores^ 01:18, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
She may act like a prissy princess, but she ain't royal. Which I may so consider to be the premier requirement. - +DeadlySlashSword+
You see, Kaimi, there are two requirements to be on the page, and they are both mentioned in the page title. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 01:33, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, FFI Sarah's page should how be called "Princess Sarah (Final Fantasy)" or "Sarah (Final Fantasy)"? Also, including in the article's name a title is a bit against the MoS, doesn't it? We have no page like "Princess Ashelia B'nargin Dalmasca" or "Dr. Cidolfus Demens Bunansa"; with this sort of thinking Light's page would be called "Claire "Lightning" Farron" actually; so you're overcomplicating this matter in my opinion.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 17:38, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

Pages have titles to avoid tags. So it would be "Sarah (Final Fantasy)", since even if we include the title it would still be tagged.
This page is an exception to the tag rule because it's less of a character page and more of a "character theme". The Princess part of the "Princess Sarah" theme is very important, actually. 79.69.219.43 17:45, December 3, 2012 (UTC)
The royal title of the listed characters is their strongest connection, and without it, this parent would not exist. The important factor isn't that they're all called Sara(h): it's that they're all called Sara(h) and are princesses as well. - Henryacores^ 00:14, December 12, 2012 (UTC)

Theatrhythm[]

Shouldn't someone make a Theatrhythm section, since Princess Sarah is a playable character in Theatrhythm?--IHaveNoIdea (talk) 10:03, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

That section is on Sarah (Final Fantasy), which is specific to that Sarah. This page is for Princess Sarahs in general. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 10:15, December 16, 2012 (UTC)

Stranger of Paradise Ver.[]

The Demo indicates that an alternate version of Sarah from 1's story is the one who points Jack's Crew to Garland in the Chaos Shrine. Should we include that?

If Princess Sarah is mentioned by name in Stranger of Paradise, then it is a clear-cut thing to include her! If she is not mentioned and is just implied to exist, then maybe some more elaboration would be useful. I'm not sure where in the order of games we should put SoP but maybe just as the last chronological entry then.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:47, 11 July 2021 (UTC)
Same guy as before, sorry about no signature last time but they did her talking in Trail Verison 1 via a disembodied voice that's showing her name as "Princess Sarah", in the release date trailer they show her, in trial version 2 they have her speak again with the same lines and they also have since posted this offical render of her to their twitter : https://twitter.com/fforigin/status/1445498130770771968?t=7tQJZPLnw6cVjVS2cUuiJg&s=19 - 172.56.42.142 21:33, 6 October 2021 (UTC)