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Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 19:59, 17 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Are you sure he's not named after the German pen maker? | |||
Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 20:09, 17 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
What makes you so sure he's named after the pen maker, CSM? Do you have a reason? I'm not trying to be mean or anything, I'm just curious. Just so you know. | |||
Not being mean too, but Montblanc is named after that pastry stuff. Its famous in Japan, made up of chestnut and cream, its color somewhat like the moogle, a slight brownish color. Google it. | |||
Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 00:18, 18 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Got proof? Show me proof. | |||
Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 00:22, 18 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Blue gave his logic. You have yet to give yours. | |||
Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 00:55, 18 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Something that's popular in Japan isn't logic as to why something was named something. Westerners better know it as the pen, and last I checked the Ivalice people rarely use names from Japan for anything. | |||
Have to agree with CSM, Ivalice is based on European conventions and such. Whenever I hear Montblanc, I think of the mountains, and considering that Montblanc's family all have French sounding names, I do believe that's where his name comes from. I've never heard of Montblanc pens or pastries. | |||
Mymindislost - You made me forget my dreams when I woke up to you sleeping... TALK - 01:05, 18 June 2007 (UTC) | |||
Works for me, though I'm more willing to believe his name is based on the mountains than the pens, but whatever. | |||
All the names are French-themed, so it's not the pastry either (the pastry is italian). Montblanc: From "Mont Blanc", the French name of the giant mountain of the alps, located between France and Italy. Horne: By spelling, it would be a county, which was occupied by France and made part of their Meuse-Inférieure. It currently belongs to the Netherlands I believe. However, since it is pronounced "horn", it could also be from the brass instrument "horn", also called a "french horn". Hurdy & Gurdy": an instrument called a Hurdy Gurdy (or a wheel fiddle) used in French folk music as well as when celebrating Bastille Day. Sorbet: While the word itself is derived from Arabic, the dessert has been adopted by French tradition and been made famous by the French (on a sidenote, since it contains acid from unripe grapes, it will only be good while "fresh", so buying it as a popcicle from a vendor is a very bad idea). Nono: ...Yeah, I'm still working on this one. | |||
Because Square rarely gives out info such as this, we all would not have sound proof that someone is named after something. But we can try. Google it, that's what I do: "mont blanc pastry". I don't care if its Italian or French, Mont Blanc is a well-known pastry, especially in Europe and Japan. I believe Ivalice is generally Meditteranean-European-themed and not to a specific country, and even if Ivalice people didn't name things from Japan, doesn't mean they didn't do it at all. Blah, I believe in my sound logic and I've said my piece ;D BTW: look at a picture of a mont blanc pastry and tell me its color isn't similar to montblanc the moogle. | |||
I remember reading somewhere that all those names were based on french stuff, E.G Malheur was something in french, and so was Radiuju, and so was Randell, and so on. | |||
Then what explains Montblanc's green clothing? And another question: what does it mean by he sometimes seems to be a few propellers short of an airship.? | |||
TA2 Marche "reference?"[]
Sorceror Nobody – The supreme nonentity Talk · Flan's Elbow Colosseum · MSPA Wiki · 15:46, 9 April 2009 (UTC) "I can detect matter down to one atom in a vacuum the size of the moon, and apparently, this guy doesn't exist" -- Foaly | |||
In response to Kuzlalala above, "A few propellers short of an airship" is just a variation on phrases like "a few sandwiches short of a picnic", i.e. sometimes "not quite there" in the sense of awareness of what's going on. If anyone can improve on my explanation (idioms aren't my thing - I am aspie after all), feel free. Oh, and do his green clothes need a reason? I don't see why they would. Same goes for Hurdy wearing blue, after all...
More importantly, what is the basis for saying that in TA2, Montblanc's KO soliloquy is a reference to Marche? Sure, it implies him, but "Ah, old friend. Is that you...?" is far too vague for the article to say that it's definite. Incidentally, I've "speculate-ified" that bit in the article until anyone can give firm backing to it. Plus the bad grammar has been pissing me off for ages, so I'm glad of the excuse to make a decent-sized edit. | |||
At FFXII, who mentions Montblanc and his siblings as the "moogle brothers"? | |||
"Ah, old friend. Is that you...?"[]
"Ah, old friend. Is that you...?" to me it sounds more like he's referring (spoilers i guess) to his deceased master (ya know, the one Yiazmat killed) than Marche. After all, if it's what he says when he dies (loose use of the word) and his masters dead, then it sort of makes more sense. | |||
Sorceror Nobody – The supreme nonentity Talk · Flan's Elbow Colosseum · MSPA Wiki · 21:10, 24 April 2009 (UTC) "I can detect matter down to one atom in a vacuum the size of the moon, and apparently, this guy doesn't exist" -- Foaly | |||
That's a good suggestion. In fact, the first thing I did after recruiting Montblanc was to find a battle and kill him myself to see the alleged reference, only to discover that the article's claim of him talking to Marche had no supporting evidence whatsoever (at which point I completely corrected the offending paragraph). But as I say, I like your theory. It also makes a lot more sense because there is no logical basis for the "real" Montblanc having any memory of a friend met only by the "dream" Montblanc in Tactics Advance. Category: Discussion | |||
List of Theories[]
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Some people do indeed call them the Moogle Brothers, despite two very good reasons not to:
- There's something that it could be confused with
- Since when are they all male?
As far as I know there's no official name for the group, but I always call them the most sensible option: "the Moogle Siblings". On the subject of theories, to be fair most of yours are a bit, well, wacko (you said it yourself). Personally, the one that I find most plausible is this one. I wouldn't worry about a theory page being turned down because of the theories being nonsense (unless they are outrightly so), but I suspect such a page would be declined until there are some better-established and comparatively well-known ones to discuss That sounds kinda awkward. I'm really in need of better wording there -- Sorceror Nobody 17:25, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
Montblanc the Artist[]
Montblanc gets to post Bills in FFXII, right? Well, there are beautiful pictures on it. Could it be that... Montblanc's an artist? | |||
Never really thought like that, what i was thinking that petitioner who are drawing it to Monty. But that's a pure idea of my Imagination O.o | |||
Well, since Montblanc is the petitioner for Yiazmat, that means he's good at drawing (if it's according to you, of course)! | |||
Image Problem[]
Is it me or the Final Fantasy XII Montblanc looks kinda... odd. I hope someone fixes it soon. | |||