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Main antagonist vs. antagonistEdit
You guys are missing the point. Kuja is the main antagonist. Brahne isn't, she was only being manipulated... by Kuja. Garland wanted to help his race, he was created for it. He made Kuja.
Kuja MURDERED his master Garland, destroyed Terra, and decided that he would kill everybody else. EVERYBODY AND REVERT IT TO NOTHINGNESS.
Kuja is there until the end of the game. Kuja killed the other antagonists making himself the ultimate antagonist. Of badassery. (Off topic: The game sloped a little downhill when they killed off Zorn and Thorn. D:)
Saying Kuja isn't the antagonist is like saying Sorceress Ultimetica wasn't the antagonist. --Dimbark
I'm calling Kuja the antagonist of FF9, because it causes most of the trouble in it and wants to rule the worlds, Gaia and Terra. Brahne wants Gaia only, but she was manipulated into working for him, and Garland isn't really a bad guy, but he's just wants to bring Terra's people back from their seeming eternal sleep. He's also one of the final bosses, the other being the non-human Necron. -Eileen-
- He is still not the antagonist. And antagonist does not necessarily implie "villain", it's simply someone who opposes the main character(s) (i.e. if it was told from Kuja's point of view, Zidane would have been the antagonist). So storyline antagonists include Brahne (manipulated or not) and Garland (despite that he was "doing the right thing" from his point of view, he still wanted to kill off an entire planet, meaning that Zidane and party had to stop him). Calling Kuja the main antagonist implies the presence of the others, as well as implie that by story, he is the one most focused on (throughout the entire story). In that sence, it wouldn't be wrong to call Brahne the main antagonist of the minor first part of the game. This is why I am changing it back (or at least, I would have, if Tactics hadn't beaten me to it). --Hecko X 05:43, 16 January 2007 (UTC)
Shouldn't we call him the antagonist and Garland and Brahne "Main antagonists"? He is after all the guy response for all the wars and stuff and he killed both Garland and Brahne. I totally love whoever eliminated that Kuja is a villian, he really isn't. Personally, I just think he's misguilded like Garland. I personally love your argument, I just think he's the antagonist, not the main one because he overshadows everyone else in the art of being an awsome bad guy. (Yeah, I love Kuja =). Tell me if you see where I'm coming from. From Kuja's view Zidane probably wouldn't be the antagonist because he doesn't use his abilities to hurt anyone. Kuja would probably just see Zidane as an annoying thorn in his side.(That's my view at least) -Eileen
- FFIX has a thing with not keeping the same main antagonist throughout the entire story, so I guess it would be more precise to actually establish a sort of time frame where he was the main antagonist (since he was more of a "behind the scenes"-kind of antagonist for... I think it was first 3 discs). So saying he was "the main antagonist for the final parts of the main storyline" (though slightly re-phrased) would be far more precise than simply calling him "main antagonist" (but overall, it isn't far from the truth, so his behind the scenes actions are a very important note to make, if we make the change). --Hecko X 20:59, 19 January 2007 (UTC)
I'd like the change except I would say that something like "Kuja is the behind the scenes antagonist for most of the game from FFIX. (then add your line or maybe combine both.) I think it would improve the article so other people who may not have FFIX will be less confused. Unlike Sephiroth and Ultimecia, FFIX doesn't have one antagonist (which is kinda different from other titles.) Tell me what you think. -Eileen-
Either way, I love his pants. <3 --nekobawt 21:21, 18 July 2007 (UTC)
- Pants? What pants? He's got a G-string and a skirt! XDDD --Mimi Sardinia 17:18, 26 August 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone confirm that is his true theme? Phoenix99999
- ...what? Dazuro 00:30, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
The theme isn't called Epynonomous Kuja's Theme, it's simply called Kuja's Theme. The word epynonomous was being used as an adjective, cause, you know, it is one. Diablocon 00:41, 13 November 2008 (UTC)
True, but frankly Immoral Melody should be Kuja's theme song, it plays in the right parts, like the first time hes in a FMV, or even the first tiem you see him in Disk 2, in the cutscene in the Auction house. And even when Zidane sees him in the Desert Palace, that song plays.
Kuja killed the protagonists?Edit
That simply doesn't make sense. Unless you somehow believe the heroes would have no idea that they died, Kuja now has the ability to instantly reconstruct dead, injured bodies and resurrect the dead, it makes no sense to assert Kuja killed the main characters with Ultima. They survived his Ultima spell before, so why is it that the second time they would suddenly be killed by it? They never mention dying at all.18.104.22.168 21:39, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes987
- Because just before Kuja uses the spell, he shouts "I don't want to die alone, you're all coming with me!" The resulting explosion whites out the entire Crystal battlefield, so it appears to have been destroyed along with the party members. After they are hit, they are teleported to Hell or4 something like it, which makes no sense, since the Crystal was destroyed and so nothing should exist afterwards. --BlueHighwind ツ 22:43, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
That makes no sense though. If Kuja blew up the crystal, how come everyone is still alive and the universe isn't gone? Why would Necron need to come out and say he intends to destroy existence, if with the destruction of the crystal, existence is already destroyed? And it seems pretty bizarre and hard to swallow that Kuja's teleportation of the heroes from Memoria also brought them back to life, reconstructed their bodies, and fixed the crystal. You don't even see the Ultima spell blow up the crystal. All you see it do is hit the main characters. The game does not show the crystal shatter or destroy at all. Why would the heroes need to give the heroes the strength to live and fight, if they're already dead? The most succinct and logical conclusion is that Kuja didn't destroy the crystal or the heroes. All he did was defeat them and bring them to brink of death. And at that moment Necron decided to take advantage of the situation and appear.22.214.171.124 23:11, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
- Remember this is fiction, so nothing has to make sense. --BlueHighwind ツ 23:25, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Well if that's the case, then Ozma is really just Queen Brhane ressurected and itching for revenge. And Dagger is really a man. A piece of fiction has to be consistent within itself in order for it to be an actual story. Especially when it's outlined its own rules and world mechanics that serves as the mythos of the entire story. Saying that "nothing has to make sense" pretty much leaves the story an incoherent hodgepodge of narrative plot devices and irrelevant dialogue. Go by what the story dictates and outlines through its mythos, and it'll make sense. It doesn't have to be GOOD, but it'll make sense.126.96.36.199 23:34, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
- You just proved my point. Your claim that "Ozma is Queen Brahne" is utter fantasy, based on nothing but utter fantasy. Nothing about that statement has any relevance in a real-world sense. You just made it up. I can make up things that don't make sense too: "a two-sided polygon". (More important, but far less clever: I'm looking for translations of FFIX's Ultimania in the hopes that Necron will show up. My only source so far: http://thelifestream.net/tag/final-fantasy-ix/ is pathetically silent on this whole issue.)
The difference betwen me making something up and the creators is my fantastical assertion makes absolutely no sense within the narrative, and I'm not the creator. The creators *can* make stuff up because its their story and they keep up their plot points consistent within their rules of their fictional world. Their fantasy makes sense. So we should follow it and not put forth conjecture that doesn't fit.
And you won't find anything there. The translator there has already said that Necron isn't really talked about. He's only called a god of death and nonexistence. If you want, I'll show you the largest profile for Necron that's out there. It's from the Final Fantasy 20th Anniversary Ultimania which profiles and talks about the characters from each FF.
"Eternal Darkness [Necron] Monster created by fear of death
A being awoken by the fear, despair, and hatred of Kuja, who discovered, with the fulfillment of his ambition near, that he had little time left to live. It rejects the cycle of life through the crystal and attempts to return every world, including Terra and Gaia, to nothing. The final enemy to confront Zidane's team."
Necron is a monster created by the fear of death. That's all. It really is just that simple. 188.8.131.52 23:55, 26 February 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
- So I guess that answers the question of if Necron came from the destruction of the Crystal by Kuja, huh?184.108.40.206 00:50, 27 February 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
- So I thought the point of a discussion page was to reach consensus on an article's factual content, not just arbitrarily revert valid changes and not even post why. This discussion has been here for at least a week and no one who's reversing the edits has even bothered to discuss the inconsistency of claiming Kuja killed the protagonists when the game itself offers no evidence of it at all here in the talk page. Could some one please balls up and discuss it instead of just reverting the changes without presenting the facts?220.127.116.11 01:06, 5 March 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
- That's rather harsh. Annons don't need accounts. Diablocon 01:15, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's true. But I'm still wary and suspicious of them. And if I recall correctly, you said you were too. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Only when they haven't been around for a while. I'm also wary of new users but the wariness will fade when I see proper contributions. The same is true for annons. However, this isn't the place to discuss that. Diablocon 01:22, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- That's true. But I'm still wary and suspicious of them. And if I recall correctly, you said you were too. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:18, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
I didn't know one needed an account to make legitimate edits on the pages. Seeing as how you call this the Final Fantasy wiki that anyone can edit, and "it's for fans, by the fans". I didn't know fans were only people with accounts... And its YOUR wiki that says people should be bold and edit. Which I did after I put up the proper discussion in the talk page. Anyways, thank you Diablocon for your kind words and understanding the point I brought up here.18.104.22.168 02:42, 5 March 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
- You don't need an account to help us out. Although I wonder: If you seriously want to make legitamate and helpful contributions, why don't you feel the need to get an account? - +DeadlySlashSword+ 02:51, 5 March 2009 (UTC)
- Because I don't feel like it. What's the problem? A contribution is a contribution, and unless you'd like to amend your welcome page and guidelines to editing, I don't see any reason why my getting an account has anything to do with the veracity and accuracy of my contributions.22.214.171.124 03:07, 5 March 2009 (UTC)Makoeyes
Does it say his age or anything?
- I think it said that he was created about 24 years before the events of the game, so he's about 24. - Sencilia
- No problem - Sencilia
Just out of curiosity, is it ever confirmed if he is dead? If Zidane tried to help him, and Zidane is still alive at the end...Exdeath64 03:39, 7 July 2009 (UTC)
- It hasn't been confirmed if he died OR survived. He might have survived - Sencilia
Im pretty sure he dies, he gives out his strength and his arm falls while talking to Zidane. Arm falling does tend to signify dieing.
Trance Edit WarEdit
Mining up quotes with my interpretation:
Kuja: The souls trapped inside the Invincible welcomed me with open arms. They were fed up with being your prisoners, Garland.
This points to neither position. The souls could have welcomed Kuja when he physically encountered them within the Invincible before the battle, or during the battle when he took on the red aura.
Kuja: Yes! This is the power I've longed for!!! The mighty power of souls! They assault any threat that tries to destroy them!
This may suggest that the first time Kuja felt any power due to absorbed souls was when he underwent Trance during battle. It would be rather odd for him to exclaim suprise if he had already absorbed souls prior to the battle.
However, we know that in the gameplay mechanics of Final Fantasy IX, player characters must undergo a surge of emotions, usually due to battle, in order to achieve Trance. The capability to Trance is still there, yet it requires a catalyst to fully manifest.
The question is, in my opinion, is the imbuing of Queen's Brahne's soul necessary for Kuja to achieve Trance, or must he undertake damage in addition to this in order to reach the magnitude of Trance seen at Castle Pandemonium?
As with player characters, I believe Kuja needed to undertake damage to achieve, otherwise, why would he have not entered Trance prior to the battle?
Kuja: It's Trance! You know how it works. But a normal Trance won't be enough to defeat you... When I saw that in Gulug Volcano, I came up with a plan. It was easy. I just needed to borrow the power from wretched souls that can't die... Where did I acquire it? It was the Invincible, or should I say, that large eyeball in the sky?
Kuja also knew he could absorb souls in order to initiate a more powerful Trance. This sort of planning suggests to me that Kuja had indeed taken on the souls trapped inside the Invincible before the altercation at Pandemonium, and that the damage taken from Zidane & co. trigged the actual Trance.If you look at a video of Kuja undergoing Trance (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bL5ZFuDqLX8&feature=related) you can see that there seems to be no link between him and the Invincible. How does he absorb those thousands of souls in a split second? It is my belief, then, that Kuja absorbed the Invincible's souls before the battle with Zidane.
True, 8-Bit, but there's two problems - first, Zidane and Vivi are both shown to enter Trance at points joining the battle from the start without taking damage, and Mog/Madeen transforms when she protects Eiko, without being in battle. Needing damage to enter Trance is just for the purposes of Gameplay, it's outright stated and shown that Trance is truly caused by a surge of emotion. No other requirement is ever given. Drake Clawfang 15:56, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- EDIT CONFLICT LULZ: @DC: Your points are true as well, however, note there is still a necessity of surges of emotion, plenty of which was given in the battle. What is undeniably true is that Kuja does not enter Trance until he takes a certain amount of damage in battle. Also, absorbing souls does not necessarily = surge of emotion.
EDIT CONFLICT - Yes, but he states that after already entering Trance and ending the battle. This doesn't prove that he absorbed them during the battle, he could have absorbed them during the battle and they reacted to his injuries. The true issue here isn't what causes Trance, it's when Kuja absorbed the souls. Drake Clawfang 16:03, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- We are using Trance in order to determine when he absorbed the souls. Saying that Kuja could have absorbed the souls after being damaged is a speculative stretch. In his weakened state following the battle, would it not be rather difficult for Kuja to take command of a whole legion of souls that remained dormant in an airship hundreds of feet above him, especially when said airship does not make an appearance during the Trance-formation? (i is make pun 8D) 8bit 16:10, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Right I'm ignoring everything you've all said and commenting on 8bit's Ultimania comment. I have a totally legal FFIX Ultimania but have no idea where to look (the whole book is in Japanese you see). Would you (or anyone else) have any idea? --Gamer2127 16:11, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- Where does one keep souls anyway? If Kuja hadn't absorbed them before the battle, where were they? Was he carrying them around? Did he have a little jar to keep them in? --BlueHighwind ツ 16:12, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
The taunting is just that: taunting. People trash talk to piss off the opponent. It's a sign of arrogance. Also, if he were trying to take damage to reach trance, what emotional change would have caused the it. He would not be angry, the enemy would have been playing right into his hand. Perhaps they are the emotions of the souls that he absorbed, not his own.--Werefang 16:13, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Kuja's cheer is broken quite a bit when Garlic tells him that he's going to die.
Since it seems no one can agree, compromise - go for a neutral approach.
- "Engaging Zidane and his friends, Kuja enters a Trance and crushes them with Ultima. Kuja reveals that he has absorbed the captive souls on the Invincible, including the soul of Queen Brahne; her greed, hatred and jealousy are the emotional surge Kuja needed to enter Trance. Kuja then kicks Garland off of Castle Pandemonium's precipice and declare he will rule both Gaia and Terra."
There. No definite statement of when the absorption occurs. Also, I'll say this too - I've had enough Edit Conflicts today to last me the rest of summer. Drake Clawfang 16:22, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
- As for me "trolling" you on every edit you make, I'm not. It just happens that I have a lot of pages on my watchlist is all, and if someone edits one of them, I'm gonna check it out. Your edit to Gilgamesh's FF12 page prompted me to investigate and solve a conundrum involving the identity of the Orichalcum, so there's a plus. If you don't like people editing a page on your heels, a Wiki really isn't the place for you. Drake Clawfang 16:29, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Actually, yes, that's exactly what it is. Let's look at your latest edits...mhm. Kuja, Beatrix' boss page, Gilgamesh's FF12 page, and pretty much all the Dissidia pages are on my watchlist. Hojo from FFXI, Luso Clemens, FF9 Kraken and Memoria are not, hence why I've had nothing to say about your edits on their pages. Drake Clawfang 16:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
Neutral edition looks good, with a tweak. To Gamer, maybe you could check the Trance and Trance Kuja pages on your Ultimania, and maybe Castle Pandemonium and Invincible. We would need a Japanese translator... maybe Yuan or ILHI would be willing to oblige?Also, discussion on trolling needs to go back to a usertalk page ^^ EDIT: Fae's taken care of that.
I'm sensing some DBZ undertones because Kuja, Mikoto and Zidane were all suppose to be sent to Gaia to wreak havoc like a certain tailed race from a popular 90's series? ——Preceding unsigned comment was added by Jio Freed (talk • contribs) 03:51, 15 August 2009 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~.
There are DBZ undertones in ALL of IX.
Not because of monkey tail only but because of purpose Kuja and Zidane were sent to wreak havoc like the sayins, and I'm talking DBZ since DB never brought up the Alien element of Goku being from another planet. But if you think about it FF IX follows the Raditz arc. With the brothers first meeting one not remembering his mission because of the way he was raised, the evil brother taking and threatening all that is valuable to the good one. The good one pretty much giving it all up to defeat his brother in the end and both of them appearing to die though there ARE differences.-Jio Freed 04:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- You do know that is a fairly common story arch? I disagree with any connections that are drawn between the two. What more can I say? 05:52, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
This is Jiofreed's alt since my other account got deleted or something. Tell me other stories that use that arc of two brothers one that was sent to be a reaper of death but forgot his mission and so now works for the good side and the other brother who's raised to be evil comes and threatens everything the good brother holds dear. and both of them nearly die or one or both do die?-Vault009Dweller 08:34, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
- Michael and Lucifer (in reverse), Anakin Skywalker and Obiwan Kenobi (again in reverse), the anime/manga 'X', many war stories have it; Dragonball is a fairly popular pop-culture media to the extent that any similarities that might appear can be rendered as just a coincidence due to the creator having watched to much of it. Netherith 08:56, December 6, 2009 (UTC)
"At arc of two brothers, one that was sent to be a reaper of death but forgot his mission and so now works for the good side and the other brother who's raised to be evil comes and threatens everything the good brother holds dear." even in reverse they're not the same and not many stories use the story you speak of. Micheal and Lucifer who were both raised together and one ended up turning evil cause of his thoughts of superiority, Anakin Skywalker wanted power so he pursed it though it meant turning evil, in X neither "brother" had an idea of their destiny until they were faced with the war head-on. Which is unlike the story of Goku and Raditz and Kuja and Zidane where two brothers were separated at a young age and reunited one completely forgetting about the other and the fact he even is foreign to the world and the other knowing their true purpose and trying to fulfill it, even if it means putting all the other brother cares about in danger.-Vault009Dweller 08:32, December 29, 2009 (UTC)
And even though it should not be used as the basis of the theory the tail thing is still a similarity
I might be a few years late to this, but wanted to give my two cents, since I just finished reading DB (the original comic, the DB/DBZ separation was a thing from the animation studio, the comic is just one big thing called Dragon Ball from Goku's meeting with Bulma to Ub riding the Kiniton). So, we have two brothers, one of them was sent to earth to destroy it, forgot his mission, nobody pays much attention to his tail because there are lots of anthropomorphised animals living amongst humans, and the (older) brother finally comes to fulfill the task (no, no connections at all). On top of that we have: not only they have a tail, they have a tail BECAUSE they are not human. They come from a planet that was destroyed, they are the only remmnants of it (well, they, Garland, and the rest of the genomes... and I guess the monsters you find there too, but it's still very few people) When they first meet, one of them has no (visible) tail. Raditz tells Goku that what Sayayins do is kill off all the inhabitants from a planet so other races can come an occupy it (sounds familiar? maybe from King Kong...) Kuja wanted ultimate power, he finally gets it with his transformation into trance, wich he learned from the people of the earth, I seem to recall it has something to do with controlling emotions. (I'm surprised he didn't turn blonde right there...) Brahne had an army. She was looking for a set of small obects that, when reunited would summon a powerful being that would guarantee her the power needed to conquer the world. Maybe she also wanted to be taller? Also, there is a ribbon in the game. I'm led to believe that ribbon is RED. (Although we should not count that last one, the "gather such and such, invoke the thing, conquer the world" IS a common story arc.) The only big difference I find is that, while Zidane was sent to Earth because he was the best genome, Goku was sent there because he was weak.
(126.96.36.199 20:09, May 13, 2013 (UTC))
My Thong! Edit
Why do so many people I hear. say he's weird cus of what he's dressed in? Kuja's awesome!
- Actualy, he doesn't wear a thong, in Dissidia in shade impulse (I think) when he lifts up his leg to stand, his skirt flies back and you can clearly see he's wearing briefs: --Sencilia 06:09, January 1, 2010 (UTC)
At least he doesn't wear a bikini. Yes, a bikini, or boxer shorts, the cheap ones. It would be nice if he wore shorts like Ciel Phantomhive.
Yea! Everyone calls hims gay, just cause he wears odd clothes. :( I love him anyway XD! Kuja's BEAST. Shorts would be cool too :)
Kefka pretty much proves in canon that Kuja wears a Thong due to one of the reports in Dissidia Duodecim, where Kefka says something along the lines of "him and his black thong..." although i cant remember the full sentance. Not that im saying its bad, Kuja is one of my best characters in Dissidia.188.8.131.52 23:43, May 21, 2011 (UTC)
- Oh, FFS... Kefka says it as a taunt, it's not an accurate description! Kuja's "thong" is a codpiece -- Sorceror Nobody 13:36, May 22, 2011 (UTC)
In FFIX, Kuja uses a dragon for transportation, but in Dissidia he can fly. So did he learn to fly for Dissidia or was he able to do it all along? --Sencilia 04:16, February 14, 2010 (UTC)
- Dissidia is non-canon. In fact that's one of the facts that I most hated in that game -• Kyrel [Talk] 17:46, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
Hm... it's possible that he can fly only for short distances, and is reliant on the White Dragon or the Hilda Garde for long-range transportation. Besides, a lot of things in Dissidia don't make sense. - File:FFIII-nes-sage.gif Saethori (T / C) - 17:42, February 15, 2010 (UTC)
He flies briefly in IX itself, but only during his Trance. 184.108.40.206 17:40, March 14, 2010 (UTC)
Trance artwork? Edit
Is there possibly existant artwork for his Trance form? Surely there is, who would bother modeling something that complex without any artwork to model after... But that artwork wasn't 'jes ever released outside the development teams walls? Anyone know something about it? ZaFlareStar 21:12, 26th of June, 2010 (UTC)
So here's my question... Edit
How in the hell does he still have a tail and manage to hide it when we've clearly seen there's no tail and nowhere TO hide it? 220.127.116.11 16:43, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
- Probably shoved it down the back of his codpiece. Tia-Lewise 19:37, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
- He's probably using some kind of magic to conceal it.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 19:38, March 21, 2013 (UTC)
Absorbing Souls Edit
Was it ever directly said that Kuja absorbed souls from the Invincible? It is said he borrowed their power but never said he directly consumed or absorbed the souls on the ship.
- These are the bits in the game where Kuja talks about it:
- That means...I simply need a powerful soul, even if that soul is not my own! No, wait... And it can be found there! Hahahaha!!
- Hahahahaha! This is too easy! The Invincible is mine! Now, I have the power to control all souls!
- Yes! This is the power I've longed for!!! The mighty power of souls! They assault any threat that tries to destroy them!
- It's Trance! You know how it works. But a normal Trance won't be enough to defeat you... [...] When I saw that in Gulug Volcano, I came up with a plan. It was easy. I just needed to borrow the power from wretched souls that can't die... Where did I acquire it? It was the Invincible, or should I say, that large eyeball in the sky? The ship sucked up the souls of Madain Sari, the Iifa Tree, Alexandria, to feed upon them... When it fought Bahamut at the Iifa Tree, the Invincible drew in a powerful spirit... Can you guess to whom it belonged?
- Queen Brahne's soul! The soul of your mother! The souls trapped inside the Invincible welcomed me with open arms. They were fed up with being your prisoners, Garland.
- The way I understand it is that Kuja took the souls from the Invincible into himself, because he is a soul vessel (Genome). He says the souls were "fed up" being "prisoner" in the Invincible, and thus "welcomed him". Though, Garland also says in another part that Kuja is unsuitable as a soul vessel (maybe because his strong personality would dominate whatever soul that was given him?)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:03, February 12, 2020 (UTC)