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Mydia's talkpage says these two need to be kept separate for spoiler purposes, but this article names her as Mydia in the very first graph, before the spoiler warning. Should this be removed? I'd do it myself but I'm not exactly sure how to reword it. | |||
They should be combined into a single article. But the question is: which name stays, and which becomes a Redirect? I support Judge of Wings, because Wookiepedia continues to piss me off to this very day about how they named their Darth Vader article "Anakin Skywalker". And they call themselves Star Wars fans! =( And we can always look to the example of Golbez for guidance: it aint Theodore. | |||
But Theodor isn't established as a separate character like Mydia and Anakin were. Hardly comparable. Or maybe Mydia wasn't. I don't really remember most of RW. But I thought she was... | |||
I can't really say that she was or wasn't. The Judge of Wings doesn't get many lines or screentime in either form. You don't really get to meet Mydia at all, so who knows if there is a real personality difference. I'll be combining these articles now. | |||
Another alternative would be to cut spoilers away from the intro. For the question of Darth Vader/Anakin, the approach used in the official Star Wars website is to separate both entries - same for any characters with two identities. Back to the question of JoW/Mydia, even the official website for Revenant Wings split between the two characters. I say a split, and then a spoiler cleanup: in the sense where info pertaining to Mydia kept for Mydia, and so on for the Judge. BTW, isn't this Judge a persona created by Feolthanos - that even when Mydia died, the Judge is still fought during the final battles? | |||
I thought that was Mydia's ghost or something. If the Judge was Feolthanos's creation, it wouldn't explain why he needed Mydia in the first place. (What's-His-Name?), Odin guy was dead from the beginning and I still had to kill him twice. And anyway, its not like we bother to split up articles for any other character with personas. Leon and the Dark Knight don't have two articles. Golbez and Theodore are one in the same. As for spoilers, I believe our policy speaks for itself. | |||
For one, the Golbez article actually makes me think - if the intro is going to say "real name Ceodore Harvey" then why do we bother put a Spoiler warning template below that? 'course this is a discussion to be said in the Golbez article or the Spoiler policy talk page, but as for this page, an approach to keeping it newbie-friendly would be wise. I need input from those who actually finished the game. | |||
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I would support changing opening paragraphs so they are not spoilerish in terms of actual identity. Really, the only purposes sentences like "brother to protagonist Cecil Harvey" and "she is a Feol Viera by the name of Mydia" serve are to remind players who have already finished the game of usually obvious plot details or to spoil the suprise for newbies. Then again, those points are crucial to the article, so I don't know where else they would be placed. I knew Mydia was the Judge of Wings before I even bought RW because I read it on this site. It either jumped up and suprised me during a Recent Changes browsing or I lacked self-control and kept reading the page. Perhaps a "second" introductory paragraph could be placed under the spoiler tag line, which summarizes the character in a more spoilerish way? Or maybe in this case it could just be tied into the first body paragraph. Example for the Judge of Wings: The Judge of Wings is a major antagonist in Final Fantasy XII: Revenant Wings. She aims to invade Ivalice from the floating continet of Lemurés and start a war between the Aegyl and Humes. Sky Pirates call her the Judge of Wings due to her resemblance to the Archadian Judges. As MydiaSpoiler warning: Plot and/or ending details follow. (Skip section) In actuality, the Judge is a Feol Viera by the name of Mydia. Like all Feol Viera, she was born and raised in the Feol Warren, blah blah blah... I think I'll do that. | |||
Re-split[]
Mydia and Judge of Wings is an Anakin/Darth Vader situation. They should be split. Don't use Wookieepedia as support for keeping them the same, the difference is they have no proper spoiler policy. Even though it's in spoiler tags, you make it so obvious that Judge of Wings is a Viera because you have to be blind not to see all the images. ILHI 13:10, January 6, 2010 (UTC)
Golbez[]
Should the many parallels between Golbez get some form of mention here? Aside from their appearance as large armored characters both are brainwashed by the main antagonist because they have a connection with them. Both of their back stories also involve them going evil so to speak after losing someone close to them. Both also have ancestry from two races. Oni Dark Link 00:26, July 29, 2011 (UTC)