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Contents
- 1 On Shooting Gunblades in FFVIII
- 2 Different Tact
- 3 Real Life
- 4 WOW
- 5 Final Fantasy X-2 image?
- 6 Dirge of Cerberus Gunblades
- 7 Gun-sword
- 8 Request from a Guest
- 9 The white space
- 10 Final Fantasy XIV's gunblades - Are - officially called gunblades.
- 11 Dirge of Cerberus gunblades
- 12 Kid Icarus Uprising
- 13 FFXIII-2 and Final Fantasy Type-0
- 14 Wrong Spot
- 15 firing blanks in FF8
On Shooting Gunblades in FFVIII[edit source]
The intro paragraph is incorrect and conflicts with a later part of the article. Specifically, the opening paragraph specifies that the gunblades in FF8 didn't shoot but the FF8 section of the article details how to fire the gunblades by hitting R1 at just the right moment. I mention it here instead of just making the change because the only solution I see is to simply delete the last two sentences of the opening paragraph but I don't like cutting out that much content without prior discussion. --Kitsunegami 23:30, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
- There is no conflict there, the FF8 gunblades "fire" but don't shoot bullets. Doreiku Kuroofangu 23:31, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
- What else would a gun be doing when fired? It's kind of what they do. --Kitsunegami 00:29, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
- Reading the article to find out what Gunblades in FF8 do do might help. Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:03, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
- "The firing of the gunblade's rounds induces a tremor in the blade, causing it to deal additional damage to whatever it strikes." I'm not disagreeing here, I just wonder where this info is from? There's no citation so I was wondering where there is confirmation. Thanks.
- Reading the article to find out what Gunblades in FF8 do do might help. Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:03, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
EDIT- Also, it is direct contradiction to the trivia in which they talk about gunblade bullets. "While it is assumed that the gunblade models have to use specific bullets/shells to fire, only one example of a "gunblade bullet" has been shown through an image in Final Fantasy VIII that appears during the game's introductory credits." Plus there's a picture that says "Revolver case and bullets from Final Fantasy VIII" Xelestial (talk) 18:12, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
Different Tact[edit source]
Do we need the Modification items listed here? We already have them on the linked to Weapons List. Also the other gunblades don't have a similar list so it kind of stands out, not in a good way. | |||
They aren't weapons, so that seems a little silly. Seems like they should either get their own new page, or get thrown in on the FFVIII Items page. | |||
Wait...crap... this conversation was meant to be on the Gunblade page. Moving... | |||
Real Life[edit source]
SilverDragon28 - "I AM THE BLACK MAGE! I CASTS THE SPELLS THAT MAKES THE PEOPLES FALL DOWN!" TALK - 21:34, 1 March 2009 (UTC) Veni, vidi, vici. | |||
Go to this link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pistol_sword | |||
A pistol/gun-sword is not the same thing as a gunblade and the gunblade is a melee weapon used in FF8, while a gun-sword is used for both melee and ranged combat. A number of these should be deleted because they are not actual "Gunblades". | |||
Your definition of the Gunblade is outdated I'm afraid. The Velvet Nightmare has been officially refered to as a Gunblade. As has the Earth and Heaven blades. Following these examples the other blades in this article were chosen. | |||
Yes, but the definition of a pistol-sword was established long before the conceptualizing of the original "Gunblade." But I guess you have Ultimania or whatever it's called. I don't know. They don't seem to have enough in common with the canon gunblade to merit the title. EDIT:There is some inconsistancy with whether the Velvet Nightmare is actually called a "gunblade". I read somewhere that in the original Japanese Ultimania, they were not identified with the same characters as "gunblade." It sounds like gunblade is a title of convenience resulting from fan bias. | |||
I can't see the difference between them, D=, the only one is that this gunblade is from a fantasy game, and those this user bring to us, are a realistic version of it, no i mean, they are not based on this game, the ones from the games are the ones whose are based on it. | |||
WOW[edit source]
Interesting! This wiki seemed to be selective on the featured items of outside games, for example, Kingdom Hearts, but it makes do with a totally non Square Enix item. If I may recall from my limited memory, there was once an infamous gunblade reference from another MMORPG being written in "Lion Heart", but it was removed. Wouldn't the same be applied here as well >;3? | |||
I never understood why so much KH content was removed, but the rationale is that KH has its own Wiki. Still doesn't make sense to me though.
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Indeed! We should not be restricted by the works of others >;3 | |||
The difference between WoW and KH is that KH draws some similarities with FF in that it has canon FF characters whereas WoW's only claim to being similar is this weapon and its role in the Fantasy genre. | |||
And that justifies what exactly? The question is... if WOW gets featured here, well, shouldn't KH as well? >;3 | |||
Oh shoot. Sorry. I thought you were talking about keeping the WoW BS. In that case, I'm agreeing with you to some exent. I'll get rid of the WoW stuff. | |||
This has nearly nothing to do with WOW; the game. It has to do with the Gunblade, if a Gunblade had appeared in another game it would also be referenced on this page because, hey, its a gunblade. The reason for the Kingdom Hearts articles being moved was to avoid repeating ourselves in the Kingdom Hearts wikia when we took over control. Not sure why the Lion Heart Maple Story reference was removed a year ago. Perhaps because its reference to the FF Lion Heart was questionable due to the Lion Heart being a popular medival sword name. | |||
Just because it is called a gunblade doesn't mean it is actually this gunblade. Many of these "gunblades" don't actually belong here as a gunblade is a melee weapon. As for the WoW weapon being called a gunblade, that has more to do with the fact "gunblade" is a simplistic name formed by two easily used words. It is in fact a gun as it says in the section. As for Maple Story's Lion Heart, it actually takes its name from Richard the Lion Heart, King of England and instigator of the 3rd Crusade. | |||
Once again the definition of what is and what isn't a Gunblade has changed since FFVIII. It is no longer just a melee weapon, some models possess ranged capabilities as well. I may illustrate that this article does not cover just FFVIII but the FF franchise as a whole. There is a FFVIII weapons page that covers just the Gunblades that appear in that game if that is your concern. Also, since WOW parodies or alludes to many other game franchises (Such as Legend of Zelda, Mario Bros, etc) the odds of the name Gunblade being a reference to the FF weapon is fairly high. | |||
Fine, I'll give you the other FF pistol-swords. But these weapons are still mainly melee weapons, being swords with gun features. The WoW "gunblade" is a "gun" with a "blade" and not the other way around. I actually came up with an idea for a "gunblade" long before I ever played 8 and to say that anything called a "gunblade" is a rip off of FF8 is miopic. | |||
First in best dressed I guess. I would like to point out the Velvet Nightmare being used mainly as a ranged weapon but other then that you are correct. | |||
Kigdom Hearts has plenty of oficial Final Fantasy elements, including a cameo appearence of Auron from Final Fantasy X. Therefore, I believe that Kingdom Hearts has the right of being refered on this wiki, unlike World of Warcraft that has nothing in common with either the cannon of any Final Fantasy or the conception of the Final Fantasy franchise. If the case was refereng that it has a gunblade, there are many other gunblades outside of Final Fantasy universe.Ozmad 00:59, September 11, 2009 (UTC)
Final Fantasy X-2 image?[edit source]
Does anyone have the artwork of which they speak of here? | |||
I think I do, CLICK HERE. I did not even notice it the first time I skimmed through. | |||
Dirge of Cerberus Gunblades[edit source]
Two to add. Looking for opinions to avoid future editing wars. Rosso the Crimson's weapon fulfills the requirments of a gunblade. The first double bladed one perhaps. Also the Restrictor's uzis might be considered although they look more like guns with a bayonet. What say you? | |||
Gun-sword[edit source]
Just a note that this seems to be the name being used for the FFXIII gunblades as offered by the game's prequel novel. Keep an eye out for official english translations, if it remains Gun-sword then we are going to need a new page. | |||
Why would we need a new page?
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Gunblade page, not Gun-sword page. Call it anal-analyzation. Odds are the type won't be mentioned in the game at which point we can simply fuse the terms together. We wont be able to obtain the required info for a few months anyway so this is just a personal note for myself and/or those interested. *shrug* | |||
Request from a Guest[edit source]
Can someone translate the text in artwork "YunaGunBlade"? Thanks
The white space[edit source]
Keep in mind that people view these pages on different sized monitors. So what may be white space on your wide screened monitor may be filled with text on someone else's small screened monitor. | |||
Everyone sees white space when {{-}} is used. I slide my window smaller to test images for layout conflict. VvAnarchangelvV 01:44, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
Layout is the very definition of a point of view, so I cease to care about that. On the other hand, the relationship of the entries to each other is three things: all gunblades, their firing mechanisms, and their appearances relative to each other in time. Their mechanisms are not yet shown to have any relationship to their order in the article, but their release date is mentioned; "The weapon's debut appearance". They are they listed according to the number in the title, rather than release date, with the first appearance of gunblades fourth and the seventh and eighth appearances first and second. My edit rearranged them according to release date of the games. In-universe chronological order is vital for a Timeline article, but it is out of place here.
VvAnarchangelvV 02:10, May 25, 2010 (UTC)
I see where you are coming from, however, this is the layout set for all of the weapon list articles. If we change one we must, in the sense of fairness at the very least, change them all. Currently we have had no problems and/or confusion due to this layout. | |||
Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 13:16, May 25, 2010 (UTC) | |||
May I say; white space is a good thing: If a page is too cramped your eyes don't know where to focus, and they wonder. It makes it very hard to read. However, white space acts like a border, sort of like a fence; you're eyes can't leave it. Take for example the text beneath this edit window; I must make a conscious effort to see it. | |||
Final Fantasy XIV's gunblades - Are - officially called gunblades.[edit source]
Imperial Centurion
The weapons and armor of Garlemald are the true testament to the Empire's technologies. The centurions of their standing armies are bedecked in imposing armor fashioned from lightweight metal alloys, beneath which are worn near indestructible battle garb woven of strong, synthetic fibers. Their weapon of choice is the gunblade, an ingenious integration of sword and firearm into a single instrument of killing, equally capable of dispatching enemies at close-quarters and at range'. The centurions are complete warriors, and in addition to their unmatched prowess and ruthlessness as assault troops, they also boast stalwart defenses, at times exhibiting almost complete imperviousness to fire- and ice-based attacks, as well as firearms.
This is the official description of the Imperial Centurion enemy. So Zulvan's weapon is also safely a gunblade.
Therefore, I guess FFXIV's appearance shouldn't have been removed from the article, unless of course it was because there was too little information on its section.
DiamondEdge 19:31, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
- Ah, I was unaware they were officially Gunblades. Thanks for that, I'll restore the section. DoreikuKuroofangu 19:34, February 19, 2011 (UTC)
Dirge of Cerberus gunblades[edit source]
Why have these gunblades been removed from the article? Netherith 22:58, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
- Because strictly speaking they aren't officially gunblades, they're just swords that also work as guns or vice-versa. Doreiku Kuroofangu 23:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
Just noting this again, for anyone curious. Unless the weapons are specifically called "Gunblades", they shouldn't be here. Not every bladed weapon that can fire bullets is a Gunblade. If we want we could do a section called "similar weapons" where we can include weapons like this and note "officially they are not considered Gunblades but have similar capabilities". Doreiku Kuroofangu 00:08, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
- Also, specifically towards you Neth, the Crisis Core Genesis copies are a bit grey. The weapons themselves are not specifically called Gunblades, but the copies armed with them have an attack called "Gunblade", and the weapons are obviously taking design cues from the original thing. Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:28, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
Kid Icarus Uprising[edit source]
Could we consider Pit's main weapon that sword/gun as a type of gunblade similar to Lightning's? --BurstDragon 12:25, July 18, 2011 (UTC)
- We might have to start limiting ourselves to Final Fantasy gunblades. Or follow Drake's advice and only go for those "Other appearances" that are only named "gunblades" or have an obvious allusion. Netherith 05:06, September 23, 2011 (UTC)
FFXIII-2 and Final Fantasy Type-0[edit source]
Do we have a model/name for Lightning's new weapon yet? And is there any further info for those Final Fantasy Type-0 Gunblade things? Netherith 13:53, February 25, 2012 (UTC)
Wrong Spot[edit source]
Uhh in trivia it's mentioned that there's Gun Blades in another game (Gungrave: Overdose) but it's in trivia instead of being in "appearances in non-Final fantasy games". Xelestial (talk) 18:25, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
- The non-FF appearances section means FF stuff that is featured elsewhere than the FF series. If the gunblades in Gungrave have nothing to do with FF then they don't belong there. It's debatable whether they should be in trivia either, then... after all they're more likely to be inspired by the real world variants than FF.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 19:57, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
For relatively generic themes, symbols, and whatnot, unless someone in an official position says FF is the inspiration, we don't know and shouldn't make any claims. If it is something incredibly obvious and FF-specific, and is similar to the point that it cannot just be a coincidence, like say, a perfectly FF-looking moogle appearing in a movie and being called a moogle and saying kupo...well then the reference speaks for itself in that case. Espritduo (talk) 20:42, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
firing blanks in FF8[edit source]
From pagem..
- Despite its name, it cannot be used as a gun, meaning it does not fire projectiles, and can therefore only be used in melee combat, making it more like a gun supplementing a sword than a blade supplementing a firearm, e.g. a bayonet on a rifle. The firing of the gunblade's rounds induces a tremor in the blade causing it to deal additional damage to whatever it strikes.
Is there any reliable source proving this claim? I had always thought the gun did fire a bullet into the target after the sword sliced into it with a swinging cut, and Squall just never bothered with the option due to its infficiency.
Where was the idea of tremor-induced damage introduced? Mentioned in any game? By one of the creators?
If it doesnt fire a bullet then would the shells you load into it be full of gunpowder but no slug for it to propel?
Without propelling a slug how would it create the recoil we see Squall use in later games? Expelling air? talk2ty 06:44, August 24, 2017 (UTC)
- There is nowhere on the weapon where the ammo would come out. File:Dissidia-Revolver.png File:Revolver Cylinder.jpg It's a fantasy weapon, it doesn't have a realistic way of working.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 12:51, August 24, 2017 (UTC)
