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On Shooting Gunblades in FFVIII[edit source]

The intro paragraph is incorrect and conflicts with a later part of the article. Specifically, the opening paragraph specifies that the gunblades in FF8 didn't shoot but the FF8 section of the article details how to fire the gunblades by hitting R1 at just the right moment. I mention it here instead of just making the change because the only solution I see is to simply delete the last two sentences of the opening paragraph but I don't like cutting out that much content without prior discussion. --Kitsunegami 23:30, May 11, 2010 (UTC)

There is no conflict there, the FF8 gunblades "fire" but don't shoot bullets. Doreiku Kuroofangu 23:31, May 11, 2010 (UTC)
What else would a gun be doing when fired? It's kind of what they do. --Kitsunegami 00:29, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
Reading the article to find out what Gunblades in FF8 do do might help. Doreiku Kuroofangu 02:03, May 12, 2010 (UTC)
"The firing of the gunblade's rounds induces a tremor in the blade, causing it to deal additional damage to whatever it strikes." I'm not disagreeing here, I just wonder where this info is from? There's no citation so I was wondering where there is confirmation. Thanks.

EDIT- Also, it is direct contradiction to the trivia in which they talk about gunblade bullets. "While it is assumed that the gunblade models have to use specific bullets/shells to fire, only one example of a "gunblade bullet" has been shown through an image in Final Fantasy VIII that appears during the game's introductory credits." Plus there's a picture that says "Revolver case and bullets from Final Fantasy VIII" Xelestial (talk) 18:12, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

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Kigdom Hearts has plenty of oficial Final Fantasy elements, including a cameo appearence of Auron from Final Fantasy X. Therefore, I believe that Kingdom Hearts has the right of being refered on this wiki, unlike World of Warcraft that has nothing in common with either the cannon of any Final Fantasy or the conception of the Final Fantasy franchise. If the case was refereng that it has a gunblade, there are many other gunblades outside of Final Fantasy universe.Ozmad 00:59, September 11, 2009 (UTC)

Final Fantasy X-2 image?[edit source]

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Dirge of Cerberus Gunblades[edit source]

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Gun-sword[edit source]

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Request from a Guest[edit source]

Can someone translate the text in artwork "YunaGunBlade"? Thanks

The white space[edit source]

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Everyone sees white space when {{-}} is used. I slide my window smaller to test images for layout conflict. VvAnarchangelvV 01:44, May 25, 2010 (UTC)

Layout is the very definition of a point of view, so I cease to care about that. On the other hand, the relationship of the entries to each other is three things: all gunblades, their firing mechanisms, and their appearances relative to each other in time. Their mechanisms are not yet shown to have any relationship to their order in the article, but their release date is mentioned; "The weapon's debut appearance". They are they listed according to the number in the title, rather than release date, with the first appearance of gunblades fourth and the seventh and eighth appearances first and second. My edit rearranged them according to release date of the games. In-universe chronological order is vital for a Timeline article, but it is out of place here.
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Final Fantasy XIV's gunblades - Are - officially called gunblades.[edit source]

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The weapons and armor of Garlemald are the true testament to the Empire's technologies. The centurions of their standing armies are bedecked in imposing armor fashioned from lightweight metal alloys, beneath which are worn near indestructible battle garb woven of strong, synthetic fibers. Their weapon of choice is the gunblade, an ingenious integration of sword and firearm into a single instrument of killing, equally capable of dispatching enemies at close-quarters and at range'. The centurions are complete warriors, and in addition to their unmatched prowess and ruthlessness as assault troops, they also boast stalwart defenses, at times exhibiting almost complete imperviousness to fire- and ice-based attacks, as well as firearms.

This is the official description of the Imperial Centurion enemy. So Zulvan's weapon is also safely a gunblade.

Therefore, I guess FFXIV's appearance shouldn't have been removed from the article, unless of course it was because there was too little information on its section.

DiamondEdge 19:31, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Ah, I was unaware they were officially Gunblades. Thanks for that, I'll restore the section. DoreikuKuroofangu 19:34, February 19, 2011 (UTC)

Dirge of Cerberus gunblades[edit source]

Why have these gunblades been removed from the article? Netherith 22:58, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Because strictly speaking they aren't officially gunblades, they're just swords that also work as guns or vice-versa. Doreiku Kuroofangu 23:26, May 18, 2011 (UTC)

Just noting this again, for anyone curious. Unless the weapons are specifically called "Gunblades", they shouldn't be here. Not every bladed weapon that can fire bullets is a Gunblade. If we want we could do a section called "similar weapons" where we can include weapons like this and note "officially they are not considered Gunblades but have similar capabilities". Doreiku Kuroofangu 00:08, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Also, specifically towards you Neth, the Crisis Core Genesis copies are a bit grey. The weapons themselves are not specifically called Gunblades, but the copies armed with them have an attack called "Gunblade", and the weapons are obviously taking design cues from the original thing. Doreiku Kuroofangu 05:28, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

Kid Icarus Uprising[edit source]

Could we consider Pit's main weapon that sword/gun as a type of gunblade similar to Lightning's? --BurstDragon 12:25, July 18, 2011 (UTC)

We might have to start limiting ourselves to Final Fantasy gunblades. Or follow Drake's advice and only go for those "Other appearances" that are only named "gunblades" or have an obvious allusion. Netherith 05:06, September 23, 2011 (UTC)

FFXIII-2 and Final Fantasy Type-0[edit source]

Do we have a model/name for Lightning's new weapon yet? And is there any further info for those Final Fantasy Type-0 Gunblade things? Netherith 13:53, February 25, 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Spot[edit source]

Uhh in trivia it's mentioned that there's Gun Blades in another game (Gungrave: Overdose) but it's in trivia instead of being in "appearances in non-Final fantasy games". Xelestial (talk) 18:25, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

The non-FF appearances section means FF stuff that is featured elsewhere than the FF series. If the gunblades in Gungrave have nothing to do with FF then they don't belong there. It's debatable whether they should be in trivia either, then... after all they're more likely to be inspired by the real world variants than FF.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 19:57, August 15, 2012 (UTC)
Oh I see. And I agree but...how is it that we know the stuff in "Non-Final Fantasy games" is FF inspired instead of just real world inspired? Xelestial (talk) 20:02, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

For relatively generic themes, symbols, and whatnot, unless someone in an official position says FF is the inspiration, we don't know and shouldn't make any claims. If it is something incredibly obvious and FF-specific, and is similar to the point that it cannot just be a coincidence, like say, a perfectly FF-looking moogle appearing in a movie and being called a moogle and saying kupo...well then the reference speaks for itself in that case. Espritduo (talk) 20:42, August 15, 2012 (UTC)

firing blanks in FF8[edit source]

From pagem..

Despite its name, it cannot be used as a gun, meaning it does not fire projectiles, and can therefore only be used in melee combat, making it more like a gun supplementing a sword than a blade supplementing a firearm, e.g. a bayonet on a rifle. The firing of the gunblade's rounds induces a tremor in the blade causing it to deal additional damage to whatever it strikes.

Is there any reliable source proving this claim? I had always thought the gun did fire a bullet into the target after the sword sliced into it with a swinging cut, and Squall just never bothered with the option due to its infficiency.

Where was the idea of tremor-induced damage introduced? Mentioned in any game? By one of the creators?

If it doesnt fire a bullet then would the shells you load into it be full of gunpowder but no slug for it to propel?

Without propelling a slug how would it create the recoil we see Squall use in later games? Expelling air? talk2ty 06:44, August 24, 2017 (UTC)

There is nowhere on the weapon where the ammo would come out. File:Dissidia-Revolver.png File:Revolver Cylinder.jpg It's a fantasy weapon, it doesn't have a realistic way of working.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 12:51, August 24, 2017 (UTC)
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