Talk: Final Fantasy in popular culture

If you want, the robot chicken video is on Youtube. [1] --Lycentia 19:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

They're probably going to take it down very soon. --Crazyswordsman 19:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

That doesn't matter, I don't know how many other submissions there have been of it anyway :P --Auron Kaizer 20:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

merging

Why do you want this to stand alone? It's clearly in reference to Final Fantasy (Series) and it would be sensical for it to be part of that article. --Hecko X 19:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Because it's eventually going to get too big to fit in the main article. In fact, now that I have access to some new data, I'm going to give a lot of the Airships their own articles soon. Give me some time, Hecko. --Crazyswordsman 19:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Oki-doki then. --Hecko X 19:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

Thanks. The FF Compendium has a pretty good resource which I'm sure is incomplete. --Crazyswordsman 19:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

And unreliable. --Auron Kaizer 20:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

newgrounds

i saw a video with cautar and tonberry in there so it should be in there.Seifer Gunblade 03:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

I dunno. Does it have some notoriety in internet circles? --Crazyswordsman 03:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

Murder

I'm not sure if the text added by me in Real World is unethical...--Nubecielo 18:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

Beam Sword=Ultima Weapon?

		Gyromite - "A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives when he means to." TALK - It is {{{time}}}
		Im not sure if im supposed to have someone confirm this before i add it, but while i was playing Brawl i noticed the Beam Sword has a few similarities to FFVI's Ultima Weapon... It kinda looks the same, and its size grows to show how tough the attack is...

		Hexedmagica - Rathalos: World Tour/All Ass Sword TALK - My companions' feelings have been etched upon this body. I'll change this eternal darkness into light! Heaven and Earth! One who matches the gods! CHOUGINGA GURREN-LAGANN! {{{time}}}
		Yeah. Put it in.

		Gyromite - "A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives when he means to." TALK - It is {{{time}}}
		Ok, i added it there :) I also have an image of the Beam Sword, but i dont know how to add it to the page

Lucky Star refers to FF

		Zolo6 TALK - {{{time}}}
		So I was watching my favorite anime Lucky Star and one of the characters gives a deescription of this. *Konata describes herself as a warrior on a online game on a quest to restore light to the crystals. Possibly a references to FF should I add it, since this anime refers to a lot of japanese pop culture and games.

		Gyromite - "A wizard is never late, nor is he early. He arrives when he means to." TALK - It is 07:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)
		Yeah, that game was about restoring the light to the crystals, and rescueing a princess, and the description sounds alot like the original Final Fantasy. You could probably add it, and if one of the admins doesnt think its good enough to be there, theyll take it off.

"This shows a lack of research by the show's production staff"?

IMO this comment is too subjective. Possibly the production staff thought the music in FF10 isn't vgmusic-esque enough in their POV so ended up using the music from older installment which used FM synth. -- 222.166.160.106 13:41, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

The Simpson & Family Gy reference Family Guy

In the Simpsons game, one of the Comic Book Guys said "...Yes that was a quote, from Final Fantasy nine!" In Family Guy, Peter says "I am am a paladin with 18 teresma and 97 hit point. i can use my Helm of Desintagration to do 1 D4 damage while iHalfelfmage weilds his plus five holy avenger." Then Louis says "Peter, the Palidin can't use the Helm of Desintagration!" Then Peter says " Oh, then I'm a black guy!"Wikiguy 10:14, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Family Guy is more likely about D+D What more can I say? 11:01, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Skelter Helter Image

You guys think I'm allow to upload a image of Skelter Helter? This is the image I was thinking of. NeoZEROX 22:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Spoony Experiment

		Modedan - Spells and Swords..the best of both worlds! TALK - 03:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
		I was just wondering if I should put in a reference to the internet personality Noah Antwiller, better known as "The Spoony One." His name is a direct reference from FFIV's famous line "You Spoony Bard!" and he does a review on FFVIII and is currently doing one on FFX. His website is here The Spoony Experiment . He is referenced in the Spoony Bard article found on this wiki. I'm not sure if it enough to be referenced here so I wanted to ask before I put it in or if someone else would rather do it. Thank you.

That doesn't sound so much "in popular culture" if his projects are all Final Fantasy based. People who haven't played the games probably wouldn't watch his reviews.Keltainentoukokuu 03:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

		Modedan - Spells and Swords..the best of both worlds! TALK - 03:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
		Oh he does other reviews as well besides Final Fantasy. I just thought it would be noteworthy because of why he calls himself Spoony and his reviews on the two FF games as well as maybe future FF games.

		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 04:09, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
		I would think a notable blogger whose title references the series would deserve a mention on this page. EDIT: Oh, nevermind. Wouldn't it just be enough that he's on the You Spoony Bard! article? That seems like a more logical place to put the trivia.

		Modedan - Spells and Swords..the best of both worlds! TALK - 04:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)
		I don't know. Just thought it would be worth mentioning ya know. Take advice from those smarter than me and everything.

Another Robot Chicken

I was watching an episode of Robot Chicken called "We Are A Humble Factory" and during one of the parts, a nerd gets a woman's body and is seen at what appears to be a strip club. After showing off 2 different outfits (from other video games/anime), he is shown wearing Tifa's FFVII outfit and exclaims: "This may be your Final Fantasy" while posing. Should it be mentioned in the article? --Sencilia 14:13, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Notable? It's Robot Chicken   Intentional reference? Pretty obviously   Go for it -- Sorceror Nobody  14:54, October 13, 2010 (UTC)

Would you please be able to add it for me since I'm bad at editing? --Sencilia 09:12, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

Done -- Sorceror Nobody  17:42, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

The World Ends With You reference

Uh, I've spotted something that refers to Final Fantasy. The tips blurb of the (B) Black Cat Atlas, Vol. 10 says "Playing Reaper Creeper requires Matoya's spell, but "NEERC SEVAS EHT TARDNALD LOH" is a mouthful, so most folks don't bother!".

If no one understands, I might as well add it. 173.32.79.97 03:54, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

"If no one understands, I might as well add it"? What exactly do you mean by that?

...but yes, it is a perfectly good reference, seeing as Matoya's spells are known for simply being written backwards. I'm surprised it hasn't already been added, to be honest -- Sorceror Nobody  15:29, November 14, 2010 (UTC)

Well, now that I see it, saying "If no one understands, I might as well add it." does look stupid.

Also... As another reference from TWEWY, there is an obtainable pin named "Tin Pin Bahamut", with the description "The ultimate Tin Pin, that of the Wyrmking. Press empty space to activate his psych, which Reapers fearfully call "Mega Flare"." Along with (spoilers) the end of Week 2, Day 7, where Sho Minamimoto uses a Level i flare on Neku and Joshua before he is erased. (endspoilers) The Level i flare probably referring to Mega Flare.

Bahamut, Shiva, Ifrit, Golem... the summons' pins are all mentioned exactly where I've just linked to. It's still worth a mention here, though, probably including precisely those links. As for Level i Flare, it's a clear reference to the many "LV #" Spells in the FF series, such as LV5 Death. Note that $i$ is the imaginary unit, $\sqrt{-1}$, as one might expect from Pi-Face -- Sorceror Nobody  15:30, November 15, 2010 (UTC)

Standards

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		Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 16:09, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
		With the recent... disagreement over whether certain references where good enough or not, I think it is time to raise this discussion; what is the standard for a reference with this page? We may have an unofficial standard, but with a rather variable definition of "reference", we need an official one. In simplest terms; how explicit does the reference need to be to be considered legitimate? Does it need to show something which is undoubtedly modelled after a Final Fantasy equivalent, or just an effect that the thing has. Example; is a spiky, blond haired guy with sullen personality and a massive sword the minimum for a Cloud reference, or is someone waving a sword over his head like Cloud does sufficient?

		Keltainentoukokuu - OH YEAH AWESOME TALK - Keltainentoukokuu 18:48, January 31, 2011 (UTC)
		If it is an intentional Cloud reference then it fits here. Because it's hard to know whether something is an intentional reference or not, it's always going to be a bit of a case by case thing.

LACC, I agree with you. I don't know if you noticed but I managed to get caught up in a war today with an unregistered contributor after I corrected a grammatical error on the Scott Pilgrim vs The World part of the Popular Culture page. He/She started removing possible FF references in the movie, so I added them back in, only for he/she to take them down again. I thought it was the right thing to do to put the points back up because yes, they may be speculation, but in that case, isn't most of the Popular Culture page speculation anyway? They could indeed be FF references so I believe they should have stayed there. What do you think?

Tia-Lewise 23:34, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

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		Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 09:42, February 1, 2011 (UTC)
		Kel: The problem is a lot of them aren't ever stated to be intentional, which is what we're here to talk about. We need an official set of rules to verify a refenerence. e.g:The reference must fill at least one of the following: The reference must be officially stated to be a reference to Final Fantasy. The reference must be explicitly a Final Fantasy reference. The reference must have the endorsement of at least three auto-confirmed users. This is just a list I came up with as I typed to give you an idea of what I think we need. Anyway... Tia: That is why we need a standard; so we can decide if things like this are references or just conicidence.

Final Fantasy VIII In Charlie's Angels

Final Fantasy VIII does have a "two player" option. In battles, you can have the option of assigning certain characters to a second controller, in which that controller can input the character's actions in battle.

Really? i thought they had gotten rid of that feature after the SNES days --Adonzo 07:47, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I know it can be done in IX, likely as an homage, but I haven't seen the option in VIII... -- Sorceror Nobody  10:57, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

I don't think you can do that in VII, and I've never seen any other versions that have it. Tia-Lewise 12:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Two-player mode wouldn't work too well in FFVIII because you have three-member battle parties. It's used in Nintendo games and in FFIX that have four party members in a party.Keltainentoukokuu 16:17, April 7, 2011 (UTC)