Talk: Final Fantasy in popular culture

If you want, the robot chicken video is on Youtube. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osHWPQtzIU8] --[[User:Lycentia|Lycentia]] 19:04, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
:They're probably going to take it down very soon. --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 19:29, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
::That doesn't matter, I don't know how many other submissions there have been of it anyway :P --[[User:AuronKaizer|Auron Kaizer]] 20:01, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== merging ==

Why do you want this to stand alone? It's clearly in reference to [[Final Fantasy series]] and it would be sensical for it to be part of that article. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 19:16, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
:Because it's eventually going to get too big to fit in the main article.  In fact, now that I have access to some new data, I'm going to give a lot of the Airships their own articles soon. Give me some time, Hecko.  --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 19:17, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
::Oki-doki then. --[[User:Hecko X|Hecko X]] 19:19, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
:::Thanks.  The FF Compendium has a pretty good resource which I'm sure is incomplete. --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 19:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)
::::And unreliable. --[[User:AuronKaizer|Auron Kaizer]] 20:00, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

== newgrounds ==

i saw a video with cautar and tonberry in there so it should be in there.[[User:Seifer Gunblade|Seifer Gunblade]] 03:06, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
:I dunno.  Does it have some notoriety in internet circles? --[[User:Crazyswordsman|Crazyswordsman]] 03:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)

==Murder==
I'm not sure if the text added by me in ''Real World'' is unethical...--[[User:Nubecielo|Nubecielo]] 18:52, 9 June 2008 (UTC)

==Beam Sword=Ultima Weapon?==
{{Gyromite|text=Im not sure if im supposed to have someone confirm this before i add it, but while i was playing Brawl i noticed the Beam Sword has a few similarities to FFVI's Ultima Weapon... It kinda looks the same, and its size grows to show how tough the attack is...}}
{{HexedTalk|text=Yeah. Put it in.}}
{{Gyromite|text=Ok, i added it there :) I also have an image of the Beam Sword, but i dont know how to add it to the page}}

==Lucky Star refers to FF==
{{Zolo6|text=So I was watching my favorite anime Lucky Star and one of the characters gives a deescription of this.
''*Konata describes herself as a warrior on a online game on a quest to restore light to the crystals.'' 
Possibly a references to FF should I add it, since this anime refers to a lot of japanese pop culture and games.}}
:{{Gyromite|time=07:16, 1 May 2009 (UTC)|text=Yeah, that game was about restoring the light to the crystals, and rescueing a princess, and the description sounds alot like the original Final Fantasy. You could probably add it, and if one of the admins doesnt think its good enough to be there, theyll take it off.}}

== "This shows a lack of research by the show's production staff"? ==

IMO this comment is too subjective. Possibly the production staff thought the music in FF10 isn't vgmusic-esque enough in their POV so ended up using the music from older installment which used FM synth. -- [[Special:Contributions/222.166.160.106|222.166.160.106]] 13:41, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

==The Simpson & Family Gy reference Family Guy==
In the Simpsons game, one of the Comic Book Guys said "...Yes that was a quote, from Final Fantasy nine!" In Family Guy, Peter says "I am am a paladin with 18 teresma and 97 hit point. i can use my Helm of Desintagration to do 1 D4 damage while iHalfelfmage weilds his plus five holy avenger." Then Louis says  "Peter, the Palidin can't use the Helm of Desintagration!" Then Peter says " Oh, then I'm a black guy!"[[User:Wikiguy|Wikiguy]] 10:14, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Family Guy is more likely about D+D [[User:Likeacupcake|What more can I say?]] 11:01, February 26, 2010 (UTC)


== Skelter Helter Image ==
You guys think I'm allow to upload a image of Skelter Helter? This is the [http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100304141012/suda51/images/thumb/8/8b/Skelter_Helter_Artwork.jpg/529px-Skelter_Helter_Artwork.jpg image] I was thinking of. '''[[User:NeoBahamutZEROX|<font color=black>Neo</font>]][[User talk:NeoBahamutZEROX|<font color="#770000">ZERO</font>]][[Special:Contributions/NeoBahamutZEROX|<font color=black>X</font>]]''' 22:23, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

== Spoony Experiment ==
{{ModedanBubble|time=03:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)|text=I was just wondering if I should put in a reference to the internet personality Noah Antwiller, better known as "The Spoony One." His name is a direct reference from FFIV's famous line "[[You spoony bard!]]" and he does a review on [[Final Fantasy VIII|FFVIII]] and is currently doing one on [[Final Fantasy X|FFX]]. His website is here [http://www.spoonyexperiment.com/ The Spoony Experiment] . He is referenced in the [[You Spoony Bard|Spoony Bard]] article found on this wiki. I'm not sure if it enough to be referenced here so I wanted to ask before I put it in or if someone else would rather do it. Thank you.}}
:That doesn't sound so much "in popular culture" if his projects are all Final Fantasy based. People who haven't played the games probably wouldn't watch his reviews.[[User:Keltainentoukokuu|Keltainentoukokuu]] 03:47, August 23, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu
{{ModedanBubble|time=03:24, August 23, 2010 (UTC)|text=Oh he does other reviews as well besides Final Fantasy. I just thought it would be noteworthy because of why he calls himself Spoony and his reviews on the two FF games as well as maybe future FF games.}}
{{8bit|time=04:09, August 23, 2010 (UTC)|text= I would think a notable blogger whose title references the series would deserve a mention on this page.

EDIT: Oh, nevermind. Wouldn't it just be enough that he's on the You Spoony Bard! article? That seems like a more logical place to put the trivia.}}

{{ModedanBubble|time=04:19, August 23, 2010 (UTC)|text=I don't know. Just thought it would be worth mentioning ya know. Take advice from those smarter than me and everything.}}

== Another Robot Chicken ==

I was watching an episode of Robot Chicken called "We Are A Humble Factory" and during one of the parts, a nerd gets a woman's body and is seen at what appears to be a strip club. After showing off 2 different outfits (from other video games/anime), he is shown wearing Tifa's FFVII outfit and exclaims: "This may be your Final Fantasy" while posing. Should it be mentioned in the article? --[[User:Sencilia|Sencilia]] 14:13, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
:Notable? It's Robot Chicken [[File:Yes check.png|12px|Check]] &nbsp; Intentional reference? Pretty obviously [[File:Yes check.png|12px|Check]] &nbsp; Go for it {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|14:54, October 13, 2010 (UTC)}}
::Would you please be able to add it for me since I'm bad at editing?  --[[User:Sencilia|Sencilia]] 09:12, October 14, 2010 (UTC)
:::Done {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|17:42, October 14, 2010 (UTC)}}

== The World Ends With You reference ==

Uh, I've spotted something that refers to Final Fantasy. The tips blurb of the (B) Black Cat Atlas, Vol. 10 says "Playing Reaper Creeper requires Matoya's spell, but "NEERC SEVAS EHT TARDNALD LOH" is a mouthful, so most folks don't bother!".

If no one understands, I might as well add it. [[Special:Contributions/173.32.79.97|173.32.79.97]] 03:54, November 14, 2010 (UTC)
:"If no one understands, I might as well add it"? What exactly do you mean by that?
:...but yes, it is a perfectly good reference, seeing as Matoya's spells are known for simply being written backwards. I'm surprised it hasn't already been added, to be honest {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|15:29, November 14, 2010 (UTC)}}

Well, now that I see it, saying "If no one understands, I might as well add it." does look stupid.

Also... As another reference from TWEWY, there is an obtainable pin named "Tin Pin Bahamut", with the description "The ultimate Tin Pin, that of the Wyrmking. Press empty space to activate his psych, which Reapers fearfully call "Mega Flare"."
Along with (spoilers) the end of Week 2, Day 7, where Sho Minamimoto uses a Level i flare on Neku and Joshua before he is erased. (endspoilers) The Level i flare probably referring to Mega Flare.
:[[Bahamut#The World Ends With You|Bahamut]], [[Shiva#The World Ends With You|Shiva]], [[Ifrit#The World Ends With You|Ifrit]], [[Golem (creature)#The World Ends With You|Golem]]... the summons' pins are all mentioned exactly where I've just linked to. It's still worth a mention here, though, probably including precisely those links. As for Level ''i'' Flare, it's a clear reference to the many "LV #" Spells in the FF series, such as LV5 Death. Note that <math>i</math> is the imaginary unit, <math>\sqrt{-1}</math>, as one might expect from Pi-Face {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|15:30, November 15, 2010 (UTC)}}

== Standards ==

{{Likeacupcake|time=16:09, January 31, 2011 (UTC)|text=With the recent... disagreement over whether certain references where good enough or not, I think it is time to raise this discussion; what is the standard for a reference with this page?

We may have an unofficial standard, but with a rather variable definition of "reference", we need an official one.

In simplest terms; how explicit does the reference need to be to be considered legitimate? Does it need to show something which is undoubtedly modelled after a Final Fantasy equivalent, or just an effect that the thing has.

Example; is a spiky, blond haired guy with sullen personality and a massive sword the minimum for a Cloud reference, or is someone waving a sword over his head like Cloud does sufficient?}}
{{KelTalk|time=[[User:Keltainentoukokuu|Keltainentoukokuu]] 18:48, January 31, 2011 (UTC)|text=If it is an ''intentional'' Cloud reference then it fits here. Because it's hard to know whether something is an intentional reference or not, it's always going to be a bit of a case by case thing.}}

LACC, I agree with you. I don't know if you noticed but I managed to get caught up in a war today with an unregistered contributor after I corrected a grammatical error on the Scott Pilgrim vs The World part of the Popular Culture page. He/She started removing possible FF references in the movie, so I added them back in, only for he/she to take them down again. I thought it was the right thing to do to put the points back up because yes, they may be speculation, but in that case, isn't most of the Popular Culture page speculation anyway? They could indeed be FF references so I believe they should have stayed there. What do you think?

[[User:Tia-Lewise|Tia-Lewise]] 23:34, January 31, 2011 (UTC)

{{likeacupcake|time=09:42, February 1, 2011 (UTC)|text=Kel: The problem is a lot of them aren't ever stated to be intentional, which is what we're here to talk about. We need an official set of rules to verify a refenerence.

e.g:The reference must fill at least one of the following:
#The reference must be officially stated to be a reference to Final Fantasy.
#The reference must be explicitly a Final Fantasy reference.
#The reference must have the endorsement of at least three auto-confirmed users.

This is just a list I came up with as I typed to give you an idea of what I think we need. Anyway...

Tia: That is why we need a standard; so we can decide if things like this are references or just conicidence.}}

== Final Fantasy VIII In Charlie's Angels ==

Final Fantasy VIII does have a "two player" option. In battles, you can have the option of assigning certain characters to a second controller, in which that controller can input the character's actions in battle.
:Really? i thought they had gotten rid of that feature after the SNES days --[[User:Adonzo|Adonzo]] 07:47, April 7, 2011 (UTC)
::I know it can be done in IX, likely as an homage, but I haven't seen the option in VIII... {{User:Sorceror Nobody/Sig|10:57, April 7, 2011 (UTC)}}

I don't think you can do that in VII, and I've never seen any other versions that have it. [[User:Tia-Lewise|Tia-Lewise]] 12:03, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

Two-player mode wouldn't work too well in FFVIII because you have three-member battle parties. It's used in Nintendo games and in FFIX that have four party members in a party.[[User:Keltainentoukokuu|Keltainentoukokuu]] 16:17, April 7, 2011 (UTC)

== Really long story that has a point ==

So, to explain this, I need to go back about two hours. Okay, so, I went through [[User:OavatosDK|ODK's]] contributions to see how long he's been away, when I saw that he has recently made an edit to [[Project:Shinra News|Shinra News]]. Well, I decided to look at it, because, y'know, I hadn't for a while. So I saw the post about the [[Final Fantasy Type-0|Type-0]] website getting new additions. So, I went to the website, but I also opened the [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/16/ff_type_zero_site_update/ Andriasang article] that the news post came from. So, I decided to look through the database to see if there were nay other articles about Type-0. Unfortunately, I clicked the wrong button and it showed up all the articles written on the site. I eventually found what I was looking for, but I decided to keep the other page up and see if there was anything new for [[Dissidia 012 Final Fantasy|Dissidia 012]]. I did see something for Dissidia, but decided to look on and see if there was anything recent about Versus XIII (there wasn't BTW). On the way, however, I saw an article relating to [http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2011/05/18/soul_calibur_v_in_famitsu/ Soul Calibur V] (Soul Calibur is my favorite Japanesee game series other than the ones created by Square Enix). I have been periodically following SC5 since it was announced in December, (and by "periodically", I mean whenever I remember and check ) and so I read on. Seeing that the post was a day or two old, I went to the [http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Calibur_Wiki Soul Calibur Wiki] itself to check the SC5 article and see if anything new was posted. What I found was [http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Soul_Calibur_V#Trivia this]. Basically, the project director has been tweeting on the status of the game since he announced it. And the reason I'm bring this the attention of the FF Wiki is because he tweeted that he wants FF characters to be the [http://soulcalibur.wikia.com/wiki/Guest_character guest characters] of the game. Then I went to a link from the SC5 page, [http://www.8wayrun.com/threads/scv-related-famitsu-stream.7217/page-5 a forum] talking about a live stream video chat something (I didn't go to the first page, so I don't know exactly what it is) between Famitsu and the project director (whose name is Daishi, BTW). Someone on the forum translated the thing, and one of the things brought up were the gues characters. Daishi responded by saying that they had already decided on who the GC's would be, and that they would soon announce them (the reason, as expplained, being that they need permission and copyright stuff out of the way beforehand). This, coupled with Daishi saying that he wanted FF characters as guest characters, leads me to believe that they will indeed become the guest characters in this new game. While that part is purely speculation on my part (and we won't konw anyways until the GC's are announced), I think that the fact that he wanted Final Fantasy characters (in the same way that Nomura wanted Sazh in Deoducim) is, IMO, worthy enough of being mentioned in a trivia page. The problem is, I don't know here exactly to add it. I looked for this page for like 20 minutes (I couldn't remember the name; stop judging me), but once I read through it, there didn't seem to be a place where this could go. I'm bringing this to the attention of the wiki (and most the staff), so that it might either find a place for it or leave it in the cold, metaphorically speaking. So, that's what the whole point of this message was. I need someone to tell me where this little tidbit should go, or if it isn't enough to be mentioned at all. {{User:A.J. two/Sig}} 23:54, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

== MAD Reference to Final Fantasy ==

I think I saw a reference to Final Fantasy in Cartoon Network's latest episode of MAD. It was referenced as Finals Fantasy, with whom appeared to be Cloud fighting an apparent school final. Should this be listed? [[User:Phoenixfeather13TheSecond|<font color="red">♥Okami Amaterasu: </font>]][[User Talk:Phoenixfeather13TheSecond|<font color="gold">There will always be a dawn!♥</font>]] 14:32, June 9, 2011 (UTC)
:Yeah sounds like a deliberate reference rather than a coincidence.[[User:Keltainentoukokuu|Keltainentoukokuu]] 16:37, June 9, 2011 (UTC)

== Scott Pilgrim reference? ==

There's a part where Scott tries asking for a job at a vegetarian restaurant, and he asks if it's like a video game, but more accurately whether it is like a "job system".  Is that enough of a reference, considering that the system was pioneered in Final Fantasy? [[User:Luacas|Luacas]] 14:57, August 28, 2011 (UTC)

== Dissidia 012 & Final Fantasy XII ==

Okay, there are posters depicits XII & 012 in Indonesian comedy show, ''"Comedy Project"'', episode 24th October 2011, and I only notice that when the show played again on TV today. Do we have to post it in the article or not? {{User:Omega Mk.XII/Signature}} 11:22, January 9, 2012 (UTC)

Do you have a screenshot? Get those and then we'll talk. We can't just throw every random little thing in there, at least not without some proof. [[User:Wohdin|Wohdin]] 15:47, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

==Chewbooboo==
I just watched a "Pinky and the Brain" show, "Star Warners" episode to be exact. There appears to be something similar to chocobo in place of Chewbacca called "chewbooboo." [http://www.renegadechickens.com/chickens/Toons/chewbooboo.JPG Link to the image.] So, should we make a mention. You know, it could a reference to Bartz and Boco, but I'm not entirely sure.—[[User:Kaimi|Kaimi]] <font size="1">([[Special:Contributions/Kaimi|999,999 CP]]/[[User_talk:Kaimi|5 TP]])</font> 06:58, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

I highly doubt it's a reference to Final Fantasy. <del>It looks to be more a reference to Foghorn Leghorn.</del> The character in question is Chicken Boo, who is apparently known for being able to imitate all sorts of people, so I don't think it's any kind of reference at all. [[User:Wohdin|Wohdin]] 15:42, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

It looks like a humanoid chicken to me, not an FF reference.{{User:Catuse167/Templates/sig}} 18:36, June 18, 2012 (UTC)

==FF7 Comic==
There's is seemingly popular [[w:c:ff-fandom:FF7 Comic|FF7 Comic]]: it's a humoruos reinterpretation done by ObstinateMelon which also includes cameos of other characters, but I don't where exactly on this page it goes, so I won't include it yet. Also, we could note somehow about Comic's cameos on character pages, don't you think?—[[User:Kaimi|Kaimi]] <font size="1">([[Special:Contributions/Kaimi|999,999 CP]]/[[User_talk:Kaimi|5 TP]])</font> 14:24, August 27, 2012 (UTC)

==Tom Brady's Official Facebook fan page==
Not entirely sure if this counts for the article (which is why I didn't edit it), but do take a look at this http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=459304160777406&set=a.233362006704957.53331.214003275307497&type=1&theater [[User:DiamondEdge|DiamondEdge]] ([[User talk:DiamondEdge|talk]]) 17:00, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
:That thing ''does'' looks like a malboro, but I can't really say it's intentional.—[[User:Kaimi|Kaimi]] <font size="1">([[Special:Contributions/Kaimi|999,999 CP]]/[[User_talk:Kaimi|5 TP]])</font> 17:26, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
::It's a FFXIV morbol. In fact, it's pretty much this image flipped sideways (http://wiki.ffxivcore.com/images/thumb/3/35/Morbol-stock.png/300px-Morbol-stock.png). [[User:DiamondEdge|DiamondEdge]] ([[User talk:DiamondEdge|talk]]) 18:12, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
Put it on the Malboro article somewhere?[[User:Keltainentoukokuu|Keltainentoukokuu]] ([[User talk:Keltainentoukokuu|talk]]) 18:33, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
:@'''DiamondEdge''', be a bit more resourceful next time: not everyone is playined/played FFXIV.—[[User:Kaimi|Kaimi]] <font size="1">([[Special:Contributions/Kaimi|999,999 CP]]/[[User_talk:Kaimi|5 TP]])</font> 18:39, November 1, 2012 (UTC)
:I would say there and here. This article is essentially meant to be the documentation of all uses of FF outside of FF. Right? [[Special:Contributions/79.69.192.46|79.69.192.46]] 22:28, November 1, 2012 (UTC)

==Menno de Jong==
I never know what's worth mentioning or not, but [[wikipedia:Menno de Jong|Menno de Jong]] did a track called "Turtle Paradise". And AFAIK that term originated from VII alone. [[User:JBed|JBed]] ([[User talk:JBed|talk]]) 22:41, December 3, 2012 (UTC)

==Spanish Singer "Porta"==

{{User:Squallxk/Bubble
|time=22:20, August 5, 2013 (UTC)
|text=There's a spanish Rap singer caled "Porta". I dislike it, but he says in the song "Mi Frikimundo" the phrase "RPGs, la katana más grande es la del Sephiroth"and it means "RPGs, the largest katana is Sephiroth's one" (correct me if I'm wrong).

He also has a song called "Mi Edén de Tristeza" and Terra's Theme is playing as base...

'''Mi Edén de Tristeza:'''

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tnxzNwGq1To

'''Mi Frikimundo:'''
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1InKiMEiro}}

==Final Fantasy art by manga artists==
Thought this might be covered as they been out for three years, they are done by big name artists that include the creators of ''Naruto'', ''Bleach'', and ''One Piece''.[http://www.jefusion.com/2012/03/final-fantasy-drawn-by-manga-artists.html][[Special:Contributions/173.168.203.71|173.168.203.71]] 05:27, January 17, 2015 (UTC)

==Steven Universe==
In the episode "Steven the Sword Fighter", a toy Cloud is seen and stabbed by Holo-Pearl.[[User:SpiralMaster|SpiralMaster]] ([[User talk:SpiralMaster|talk]]) 02:02, April 20, 2015 (UTC)

==''Shonen'' Phonecards==
I have a sort of personal problem in regards with images included in the "''Shonen'' Phonecards" section of the article: do we have permission to host them on the Wiki? Since it's Pixiv.net stuff which is known to have its stuff posted outside of its "source" website without permission (not all artists publishing their works on Pixiv.net want their stuff to be public) I'd rather we have permissions, even though the images were created by popular manga artists. If we don't have permissions I ''think'' that posting links to the works will be sufficient (I'd need to check with Pixiv.net's rule for linking images, unless someone already knows that site's stance on that).—[[User:Kaimi|Kaimi]] <span style="font-size:0.75em">([[Special:Contributions/Kaimi|999,999 CP]]/[[User talk:Kaimi|5 TP]])</span> ∙ 00:43, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
:They're hosted under the fair use clause like everything else. Is there a reason to they are different than all other images?[[User:Keltainentoukokuu|Keltainentoukokuu]] ([[User talk:Keltainentoukokuu|talk]]) 02:23, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

==Undertale==
The opera scene is the most obvious reference, but it's impossible for me to believe that the flowers breaking the fall isn't a reference to FFVII. There's even a sign on a wall that says not to step on them!

There's also <q>This was our new home which we named... "Home."</q> and a comment about not being good at naming things. This is probably a general reference to the Japanese use of ordinary English words that get localised as those same English words, which gives things like [[Huge Materia]], but I'd guess the devs have played FFX so they would know that a home called Home has been done before. [[User:JBed|JBed]] ([[User talk:JBed|talk]]) 19:27, March 11, 2019 (UTC)