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Kaimi has suggested a template be created for this. If so what colours? I'm leaning towards grey as that's the colour of the lettering for the logo. Black is the background though which might present problems. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle 21:43, January 1, 2014 (UTC)

I'm not sure it'd need a navigation template. It doesn't have too much unique stuff exclusive to it.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 03:02, January 2, 2014 (UTC)
My thoughts also, I deem it a little unnecessary. I'm more concerned with a possible bloating out of the existing Spira navs though. Nothing has been added to them as of yet. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle 03:07, January 2, 2014 (UTC)

Before everyone claims that Sin coming back is a stupid, unnecessary idea... Edit

Aka, an Ass pull (see Tvtropes) I am just going to point out Yunescala's undeath quote (apologies for spelling)- If I am not mistaken (as it is written on the Final fantasy X page on this wiki) , she did say that Yu aye on could revive Sin once more, even if they defeated Sin without the final Aeon.....

Guess what has happened now....?

TMG- Why? (talk) 18:22, March 31, 2014 (UTC)

PS. This may not be the appropriate place to put this, but I just felt the need to defend it here. I have no idea why I am defending it in the first place, but I just am.

Yunalesca forgot that if Yu Yevon got killed then he can't create new Sin. She said that because every summoners killed Sin without killing Yu Yevon so that's the problem. not sure why Yunalesca keeps it secret for 1000 years and tell those poor summoners to throw away their lives. maybe she's just a whore who keeps trolling people and deserve to get her ass kicked by Yuna. Monterossa (talk) 18:44, March 31, 2014 (UTC)
Yunalesca was a denizen of Zanarkand. She likely wanted to preserve the idealistic version of it summoned by Yu Yevon. Telling people to kill Yu Yevon would not only destroy the only source of their dreamland, it would destroy her reason to continue living. Her mistake was revealing Yu Yevon's existence in her last moments, which was likely an attempt to say "stop trying to wreck my dreamland" without outright saying what was going on. Yrusama (talk) 02:23, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

i find it hard to believe that the sin that's coming back is the same sin. the whole "tidus isn't the same" thing is along the same lines. sin and yu yevon aren't exactly intelligent beings, so who knows what they'd do. and even if sin came back the way it was, it'd just be an almost regular boss to beat up in the context of a "final fantasy x-3".

btw the entirety of x is a gigantic ass pull and i can't really understand the people who can defend it while at the same time trashing will and 2.5, i just can't. this could go in a very interesting direction on the level of what x wanted to do, but i think x will need to be partially rewritten in order to do so. Despatche (talk) 04:37, June 3, 2014 (UTC)

Shoopuf plotholeEdit

Lobivia location

za shoopufs.

"The shoopuf was the last of its kind after the female was killed by Sin thirty years ago".

as we can see in X-2, there are several Shoopufs on Bikanel island. should we mention this in the trivia section? Monterossa (talk) 12:29, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

I wonder if those two shoopufs are present in the HD Remaster of FFX-2. There is also a possibility that the Bikanel Shoopufs are unsent; neither FFX or FFX-2 says that only intelligent life forms can be unsent.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 13:54, April 1, 2014 (UTC)
lol even Daikoro can be a fayth so it's possible. Monterossa (talk) 14:44, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

I just assumed it was some rare extinct breed of shoopuf, not the regular ones you see in the game.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 18:13, April 1, 2014 (UTC)

Maybe they meant specifically the Shoopuf of the Moonflow. Bikanel Island is a long way for a hoofed elephant thing to swim. Yrusama (talk) 03:07, April 29, 2014 (UTC)
Shoopufs can climb up to the Gagazet Hotspring. Not sure how. Monterossa (talk) 10:17, May 12, 2014 (UTC)

Sin Is Back: Possible Reasons?Edit

If the dead are brought back by the Beckoning, who would want Sin to return? How strong does this wish have to be for it to happen? Do the beckoning have to be alive, or can they be unsent? I know SE might never expand on this story, but here are some possibilities I've come up with in terms of who would want Sin back. Some of them might seem pretty crackpot, but don't judge too harshly. I'm just throwing ideas out there and wonder if anyone else can think of some.

- Seymour: If it's possible for those beckoned to beckon others in turn, I think it's safe to say that Jyscal would call Seymour back, and Seymour (having learned the full truth about Sin if he didn't know it already) brought Yu Yevon back. It is very likely that Yu Yevon is an unsent but is able to sustain Dream Zanarkand the same way as the summoners sustain Aeons (although Seymour himself never calls Anima again after his own death, so the rules on undead summoners aren't clear). If the beckoned, the Aeons, and the unsent are all the same (they're all just Pyreflies after all) then Seymour is my favorite canine.

- Tidus: Tidus once called an illusion of his mother to the Farplane's visitor platform with a stray thought. Could the illusory Titus Yuna brought back in 2.5 think, even for a moment, that Sin was what brought them together in the first place? Or maybe he wants to defeat Sin with her again.

- Yevoners: Even a few years after Sin's defeat there are people still coping with the abrupt change in the global pecking order. In order to give their lives structure they cling to teachings written in the name of an entity much of the world's youth considers evil. I can imagine a few of them might want Sin itself to come back so they can revert to their old routines. This begs the question of whether or not the beckoner needs to know Yu Yevon himself, and if Sin is an extension of Yu Yevon (like a body to a brain) or a separate existence in spite of Yu Yevon's control (the latter is likely, as Jecht was able to wrest free of it temporarily). Yrusama (talk) 03:07, April 29, 2014 (UTC)

My theory is that besides the Farplane being unstable and someone wishing Sin back, I think Iutycyr Tower might have something to with it too. The machina at the top slightly resembles Sin but as the tower is said to possibly predate Zanarkand, it might just be a coincidence but it mysteriously springs to life after YRP determine it to be broken. The meanings behind Iutycyr and its other name "Yadonoki" also seem to suggest the tower's purpose as having to do with summons and illusions. --FFfangirl (talk) 16:55, March 14, 2017 (UTC)

Tidus' narration Edit

Why does Tidus say at the start that it's been 2 years since the Eternal Calm started and then that he's walked with Yuna for a year? Tidus is implying only 1 year passed between X and X-2 and that another year passed between X-2 and -Will-. But that's all wrong. He should be saying it's been 3 years since the Eternal Calm started. Why does he say it's been 2? 79.223.144.117 19:00, May 16, 2014 (UTC)

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