Talk: Final Fantasy XIII enemies

Not worth it yet at all. We have no idea how big the game is going to be, and what pages to make. Chances are it'll be the same of XI, meaning perhaps a lot of the articles won't actually be created. Plus there's link fail all over it.  ILHI 11:54, October 3, 2009 (UTC)

		SamSandy - The Final Fanatic TALK - 08:02, October 4, 2009 (UTC)
		Sorry, but with all the monster names revealed in the English trailers, I just felt the need to list them here. Besides, this article would've been created sooner or later anyway (since every game has this here), so why can't this be used as a basis of construction? We know these names are real from the trailers, anyway, so why couldn't this article stay, even if it is a bit early?

Actually, I agree with you, and retract my original statements.  ILHI ^{15:19, October 4, 2009 (UTC)}

Found this page for use72.184.129.252 23:45, December 27, 2009 (UTC)

Missions

		Adonzo - I don't claim to have a degree in doctorology TALK - 19:51, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
		How do the Missions in this work? Are they like FF12 marks? Main reason I ask is that many of the enemies on the Missions list repeat themselves up to four times in some cases. Also, many Mission enemies are also listed as regular enemies. Are they being listed incorrectly, or are they pulling double duty?

		Redeemer & Destroyer - I AM YOUR SAVATION AND YOUR DEMISE!!! TALK - !! - 19:53, January 20, 2010 (UTC)
		They are different from the Hunts. They can be done again, and there are a lot of mission that are just stronger version of regular monsters.

Enemy List

Found at Game faq, with stats included.Fractyl2 19:24, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'd be happy to get to work converting that, but I don't know whether we're waiting for American and PAL stats/items in case they're different? - Paramina 19:28, February 4, 2010 (UTC)

I believe the current consensus is wait for the NA release, as the games are often retuned after the initial release (Omega Mark XII is a notable example). That, and it will save us a lot of page moving in the future. Only about a month to wait before we can begin. --Adonzo 03:01, February 5, 2010 (UTC)

I actually just looked through that, and we should definitely hold off until an english release. Very few of the translations there match up with those here, and we have no way of knowing which is correct or even which ones correspond to each other. --Adonzo 06:35, February 12, 2010 (UTC)

As an example in a conversation I appear to be having with myself, GameSpot video of the english version shows some battles against PSICOM Wardens, which appear on neither list. --Adonzo 07:49, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

i own the guide i have access to every enemy in the game and their stats ask me for any and ill tell you then you can put it on the wiki JamesDC99 20:28, March 27, 2010 (UTC)

English Enemies

		Adonzo - I don't claim to have a degree in doctorology TALK - 08:59, February 28, 2010 (UTC)
		Just as a note, prior to being informed that we should've been leaving the enemy pages alone til an english release, I had made a bunch of disambigs as well as moved a few pages in preperation. When we get our hands on an english copy, PLEASE DO NOT REMOVE ANY ENEMIES WITH A (Final Fantasy XIII) TAG. Once we find out for sure if they are not in fact in game, it will make them easier to find and fix my mistakes. Another suggestion from me would be to actually preemptively remove all non-tagged enemies prior to release, and essentially restart this page from scrap. EDIT: Also, I plan on getting FF13 on release date and will try to remember to list all the enemies I see. This page has been driving me nuts and I want to get the skeleton hammered out ASAP. EDIT2 @ 01:39, March 5, 2010 - I actually grow more fond of the rebuilding idea by the day, so unless someone suggests otherwise, I'll restart the page once I get my hands on a copy. Also taking note of the disambigs pages with FFXIII enemies on them for reference in case they end up getting renamed: Alraune, Amphisbaena, Avalanche, Behemoth King, Berserker, Bugbear, Chonchon, Crawler, Dagon, Garchimacera, Ghast, Ghoul, Gremlin, Humbaba, Invincible, Larva, Nosferatu, Orobon, Phalanx, Reaper, Sacrifice, Taxim, Triffid, Tyrant, Uhlan, Vampire, Bandersnatch, Dreadnought, Jabberwock, Taharka, Kaiser Behemoth, Rafflesia, Verdelet, Neochu, Zirnitra, Jumbo Cactuar

		Judge Balthier - Hamshanks! TALK - 01:42, March 5, 2010 (UTC) "No. You want you to find this, because the finding of this finds you incapacitorially finding and or locating in your discovering the detecting of a way to save your dolly belle, dear ol' what's-her-face?"
		Has anyone started to make an enemy table for FFXIII?

		Adonzo - I don't claim to have a degree in doctorology TALK - 07:10, March 5, 2010 (UTC)
		Don't think so. In other news, due to XIII releasing on the 9th (a tuesday) as opposed to the 12th (a friday and thus weekend) as i originally thought, I may not be as fast updating this as planned. EDIT @ 20:26, March 7, 2010 (UTC) - Heading out to preorder shortly, and apparently the EB Games preorder comes with a Piggyback guide. Knowing me, I'll probably fire through this page before I even play the game.

		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 20:38, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
		Yay, users with guides :D I was going to try a hand at the enemy template, but I can't code at all. Here's an image that details the pertinent information gained from Libra. I'm not quite sure if, like in XII, enemies can have varying levels and stats, but their elemental resistances should be standard.

http://s654.photobucket.com/albums/uu263/KevinTanza/DaysRikuHooded.png

Darkness Special:Editcount/TenzaZangetsu March 7 2010 (UTC)  -   "What I have shown you is reality. What you remember, that is the illusion" Well, we can use that image to start the template, then we must add stuff like locations, attacks, etc. 8Bit: Remember to add your images, thanks :D.

		Adonzo - I don't claim to have a degree in doctorology TALK - 23:02, March 7, 2010 (UTC)
		Bullocks! Turns out the guide what comes with the preorder is only one of those bullshit mini-guides detailing the first couple levels of the game. I'll have to see if I can get a real guide when I go to pick it up.

		Judge Balthier - Hamshanks! TALK - 23:37, March 7, 2010 (UTC) "Nothing couldn't be further from my mind. Should I swear by your sword or some such?"
		Well, that's too bad for you; you saved me money. Any idea how much the strategy guide will cost?

Missions Revisited

The Missions list is really unnecessary, as that is what Missions (Final Fantasy XIII) is for. Instead, i created a Unique Missions section, devoted to any enemies that only ever appear as Missions. It is still very incomplete as I haven't progressed very far in the Missions, so some things need to be added, and maybe even some things removed. EDIT: This brings to mind another issue - should unique mission enemies be categorized as enemies or bosses or something else entirely? --Adonzo 20:54, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'd call them Marks, as the game itself does. 8bit 21:21, March 21, 2010 (UTC)

I'd make a disambig of Mark, if that's the matter. ^BLUER一番 05:00, March 22, 2010 (UTC)

Double Data

Lycentia - Veni, Vidi, Visa I Came, I Saw, I Shopped - 11:08, March 23, 2010 (UTC) You know, when some of the enemies are staggered, like the Armadon types, their immunities can totally change. You can only find those out when you look at the enemy data while in the battle. Should we be entering that too?

i think we should but that would require some hours of gameplay and some collaboration (sounds like fun) no i mean it real fun

Re: Total enemies in FF13

just a quick question does any1 know how many enemies there are in total in this game?

Err... tried counting them on this article? Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:44, April 7, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Total enemies in FF13

Yes i counted but there doesnt seem to be all the enemies listed here. I have counted my enemy intel and i have a total of 237 enemies check ur intel and let me know or if u can find anywhere else that will let me know how many enemies there are in this game will be greatful! =)

You probably double-counted some enemies. Remember that for enemies like the Manasvin Warmech there are two different versions (or three if you count the first battle as two separate encounters), whereas it will only show up as one on this page. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 18:54, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

EDIT: I've counted 238. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 20:09, April 12, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Total enemies in FF13

Hmmm ive checked the gamefaqs section on the enemies list as well but maximum they have posted is 219 (where as they are missing some there as well) I've counted here around 3x but still getting the same results where as i checked my enemey intel in game and have a total of 237. Basiclly i wanna know how many more am i missing or where can i find out how many enemies are in this game if u can find out that will be great been searching everywhere!

I added some of the Unique Marks that were missing from this list (Rafflesia and most of the Undying), but I don't think it still has all of the monsters. SamSandy 07:29, April 15, 2010 (UTC)

Re: Total enemies in FF13

Nice 1 bro keep it up just counted up all the enemies that u've posted here theres a total of 228 now. According to Jeppo he has a total of 238 enemies on his intel in game but i wonder is the maximum enemies 238 or can there be more?

Enemy Drops

Has anyone thought of having a table that can list enemy common and rare drops. It would make it an easy way to find certain components etc when you are at a whatever point in the game.

WTF?

I can't believe we still need more FFXIII images after 3 months out, well, if anyone gives me a HD playthrough, I can finish it. PS: Yes, it's me, Tenza, by some reason my computer crashes everytime I try to log in. 200.8.34.239 22:53, June 24, 2010 (UTC)

The user MirrorshardSceada is currently uploading enemy images. I think he also using a capture card rather than YouTube. --Oranejo 00:10, June 25, 2010 (UTC)

Enemy Images

This could be of use to us. Koharu Nami 05:50, October 22, 2010 (UTC)

Zenobia

		FlamesofRebirth - ... are rising TALK - 08:17, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
		Since you can never actually fight it, why exactly is Zenobia included on this list?

		MirrorshardSceada — 10:31, October 30, 2010 (UTC) "You used to be too broken to talk back." Vanitas, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep A l'Cie's Diary - FFTA2 Walkthrough - Lindblum Tourism Office http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z411/Sceada/kafrahead_15px.png
		Debatable. You are right in that one can not fight her, so it does not make this much sense to include her here. However, I personally would keep her in this list, seeing how she is after all a rather special enemy, beeing an Undying. So, I'm not sure about it, but I would keep her around for the time being.

		FlamesofRebirth - ... are rising TALK - 11:02, October 30, 2010 (UTC)
		"she is after all a rather special enemy" My point is that if you don't fight it, it isn't an enemy at all. She is included in the list on the Undying page already, so there isn't any need to have her here. If someone who the party is about to fight but doesn't because she is killed by someone else first qualifies as an enemy, we would need to put Jihl Nabaat on this page as well.

		MirrorshardSceada — 11:42, October 30, 2010 (UTC) "You used to be too broken to talk back." Vanitas, Kingdom Hearts Birth by Sleep A l'Cie's Diary - FFTA2 Walkthrough - Lindblum Tourism Office http://i1188.photobucket.com/albums/z411/Sceada/kafrahead_15px.png
		Looking at it from that point, you are right. With the only difference between Jihl and Zenobia being that Jihl has a bigger impact on the story, it would really not make much sense to keep Zenobia on this page. so, I'm gonna remove her now~

Cool. Really, the only reason I brought this up was because after all that work we put in updating the images, there was just that one damn pic left with a background, and I was looking for a way to justify getting rid of it! But when I thought about it, Zenobia doesn't belong on this list at all, so making the page look nicer is just a bonus. Flames of Rebirth 11:53, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, I'm not sure about the event, but I just want to confirm policy: If an enemy appears as a target in a battle situation, or appears in a battle where it attacks the player, then it gets a page and is classed as an enemy. So I'll assume the player is about to confront Zenobia, but "battle mode" is not entered so therefore he doesn't appear in a battle as an enemy, and doesn't go on thid page, right?. 88.108.86.13 12:15, October 30, 2010 (UTC)

Right, she only appears in a cut-scene where a Tonberry kills her. She dies, then the camera focuses on the Tonberry, then the scene ends and the game enters the battle screen. Flames of Rebirth 12:26, October 30, 2010 (UTC)