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Do you all think that the International Version will be playable on US xbox's? I know some japanese region games can but not all of them. I really hope they do because they said they were going to add some content that was cut from the initial release. I'd like to see that since this is my fav in the series. Siegleeagle

Soundtrack TriviaEdit

In the trivia section it mentions that FFXIII is the first game in the series where the Prelude and the Victory Fanfare themes are nowhere to be heard. Isn't this also the case for the Main Theme of Final Fantasy as well, or was that not in a previous game and I just missed it?

  • The Main Theme wasn't in FFs II, X or XIII YamiNoBahamut 15:5, 16 April, 2010 (UTC)
    • That explains it then. I never finished II and didn't pay much attention to X's soundtrack. Thanks! Gendreavus 09:52, April 23, 2010 (UTC)
      • actually in sunleth water scape if you list closely there is the perlude
  • "Battle Results" is actually the "Victory Fanfare" and is more reminiscent of FF8's, in that "Battle Results" fulfills that role, without using the trumpeting instrumentation, instead using alternative instrumentation to fit the musical score of the game. 16:18, February 9, 2012 (UTC)
  • The closest hint of a track resembling Prelude hint is in "The Promise", in the way that the piano instrumental seems to travel the scales in a meandering and dissonant way (again with the musical score's character and also a sort of lingering character from FF XII's rather dissonant re-interpretations), in the way that the Prelude gets a techno-ish overhaul in FFX (but you can still clearly hear the instrumentation). 16:18, February 9, 2012 (UTC)

PC release??? Edit

Please advise me on when it gets ported to the PC (Windows 7, in particular). Thanks in advance. --ENG 23:01, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

That will NEVER happen. Ever. FaythOfFenrir 23:03, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Never say never. Just because there are been no announcement yet, doesn't mean there never will be. I find it highly unlikely, though. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 23:07, February 17, 2010 (UTC)
9 might be more likely to get a PC port first, just my feelings. Afterall, 7 and 8 already have PC ports. PS3 games would be tougher to port than PS games.-User:PanSola(talk/history) 23:21, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

There's a slight issue with porting current-gen console games to PC in that it might be difficult if the CPUs differ. Both the PS3 and 360 have in-order processing, which may not be true for a PC CPU. Aside from that, the system requirements would be sky-high, because the benefit of programming for a console is that you don't have to worry about resource-sharing, so to play it on the PC would probably require some sort of hypothetical quantum space-computer to meet the minimum requirements. Bluestarultor 07:01, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Nah, modern x86 CPUs may be out-of-order internally but the external interface is effectively in-order. Doesn't make any difference as long as your compiler works properly (and actually gives the PC a slight increase in performance at the expense of a more complicated chip design). Given that PCs are already significantly more powerful than the PS3/360 in CPU and GPU processing, with gobs more memory the "resource requirements" argument makes no sense either (nor is "resource sharing" an issue - games take over the machine for all practical purposes). Add to that the fact that most console games are initially developed on PCs or Macs in the prototyping stages (especially 360 development) and the "impossible" argument just falls out the door. The real argument is simple - the console games market is about 10 times the PC games market and most PC owners have a console of some sort, so the cost benefit of releasing on PC is just not a compelling thing for a game that would really see no benefit. Ddrak 06:10, April 25, 2010 (UTC)

One thing to take note of, however, is gaming systems have a very limited range in their performance. Granted, graphics of games might improve throughout the system's life span as technology improves, but, for the most part, systems are trapped within the confines of their initial hardware. Computers on the other hand have a VERY wide range of performances, given the vast array of hardware on the market. There are computers which have absolutely no gaming capacity, while cutting edge specialized gaming computers can watch an 8 way free-for-all zerg rush with ultra graphics settings on SC2 and still get a good frame rate. While I'd love to see FF XIII on the computer (because I could probably play it without having to get an X-box 360), it doesn't seem all that likely.

Also, Square Enix is an Asian company. In the west, we have an equal split of gaming systems and PCs, where over there, it's mostly the systems and computers are in offices or internet cafes. Tanooki1432 01:09, August 2, 2010 (UTC)

No Talking Please Edit

So, does it bother anyone in Europe that the game will not be localized to the specific region? I live in America, but I was wondering if it presents any problems or if you (as players) think that it detracts from the game? 04:30, February 19, 2010 (UTC)

I find it intriguing that you are asking about Europe only and not Asia or the rest of the planet. Asking on an English-language wiki might also get relatively biased results. Anyways, while I don't live in Europe, my perspective of the upcoming Traditional Chinese text/subtitle release (with Japanese voice) in Asia is that most people in the Asian market are used to watching movies/TV and playing video games that are voiced in a different language, and they are quite used to reading sub-titles, so it wouldn't distract them from the game. It doesn't quite answer the question you asked, but provides a similar case study. English is probably not as foreign to most of Europe compared to Japanese is to most of Asia. -User:PanSola(talk/history) 05:38, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
Yes. European countries are used to subtitles. In my country, a child usually gets used to subtitles at the age of 7/8. - Henryacores^ 12:22, February 19, 2010 (UTC)
In sweden, most people speak relatively fluent English as well as Swedish, and gets used to subs pretty early too, about 5-6 years old. Of course, it could be because Swedish dubs generally sucks... Uppfinnarn 18:55, February 21, 2010 (UTC)
I'm used to reading subtitles as well. It's not that I need help understanding it's just my habit. Yeah and I have the English version but I really really want the Tradtional Chinese Version.KayReeed 05:46, October 28, 2010 (UTC)

360 DifferencesEdit

Aside from the graphics and the console, what is the difference between the XB360 version and the PS3 version? Uppfinnarn 18:55, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

There isn't even a noticeable graphics difference. The only difference I know of is that the 360 version is multi-disc. EDIT: Oh, and there might be some achievement differences, but its doubtful. --Adonzo 19:03, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Check this site: [1]. The site is in swedish, but the left pic is from the PS3 version while the right one is from XB360. I also saw someone complaining about how stuff were cut from the XB360 version... Uppfinnarn 19:30, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

Click on the pics to enlarge Uppfinnarn 19:33, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

K, you got me on the graphics, but the people saying that content was cut on the 360 are full of crap. The people saying that content was cut on both versions because of the 360 are full of more crap. To quote myself in this thread because i don't feel like typing it out again:
"Ugh. You realise that the cut content actually had nothing to do with the 360 right? They cut it because they felt it made the game too long, enough to make an entire other game, which would've drastically increased production costs on BOTH consoles. It's no different from movies. The Lord of the Rings movies, for example, run 50% longer than the theatrical releases with all the content they left out."
--Adonzo 20:19, February 21, 2010 (UTC)

You also get a code to download a PSICOM uniform for your Live avatar for the 360 version - Saxisai 20:21, March 12, 2010 (UTC)

The change of theme song Edit


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FFT Zilean Funeral In Pursuit (talk), 01:11, March 17, 2010 (UTC)
Methinks the vocal range of "Kimi ga Iru Kara" is too narrow to yield to Sugawara's singing capability. She lacks the treble as Lewis. Though I don't think "My Hands" is a good choice, lyric-wise. Lyric of "Kimi ga Iru Kara" is more customized to the story/theme of FF13.



FFT Zilean Funeral In Pursuit (talk), 01:04, March 18, 2010 (UTC)
Just look at how they treated the English version of "1000 Words" back in X-2. The musician had to alter the melody to fit the new lyric. That makes this version an awkward immitation to the original JP version.


i wouldn't care if they put the Japanese song in English release if i'm honest JamesDC99 21:50, April 18, 2010 (UTC)

Collector's Edition Edit


Battle system Edit

Here (and the Battle system page) it mentions how the JP demo refered to the battle system as "Command Synergy Battle". Thing is, now that the final product is out and in English, does anyone recall the battle system being given a specific name? I only recall references to "ATB" (bar)... -- 07:21, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

The system is ATB. It says so at the beginning of the game. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 08:53, April 1, 2010 (UTC)
i'm assuming the ATB stands for Active Time Battle and I remember reading that somewhere JamesDC99 21:52, April 18, 2010 (UTC)
You probably read it from FF7/8, but it might be somewhere in the 'battle premieres'-- 14:26, May 8, 2010 (UTC)

Covers Edit

I bought the game in March in Japan and the cover is different from the one on the article. It's more like this one:

The one on the article is the Lightning edition, if I'm not mistaken. The original one is the one you showed. BLUER一番 11:48, April 10, 2010 (UTC)

Plot Summary Issue Edit

The summary given for the game's plot suggests that Barthandelus is the one speaking to the party during their first confrontation with Orphan. Given that it refers to itself in the plural and that Orphan's actual voice doesn't seem to be used until his second confrontation, this could very well be correct, but is there any confirmation on this?

If I remember correctly, the subtitles refer to Orphan as the speaker during these scenes, but I'm not entirely sure. The article on Orphan assumes that he is the one saying these lines/torturing Fang, as well.

The parts of the first form that I refer to as the "wheel" and the "child's face" are specifically Orphan's second (and true) form embedded into a shell, which in turn is just an extension of Orphan's "body" created out of spare parts salvaged from Barthandelus/Menvra. If you listen to Orphan's first form, you can actually hear at least two voices layered together. The reason for the plural pronouns may be that, as a composite construct, the first form does contain physical pieces of Orphan and Barthandelus/Menvra – but there is no other trace remaining of Barthandelus/Menvra as beings in their own right. But I could be completely wrong... this is just my interpretation based what I've read/heard in the game, as well as stuff I've read on the wiki and in the Piggyback guide -- SN Cocoon Sig 15:28, May 22, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, I heard several voices layered together too. What I believe is that the combination of Orphan, Barthandelus, and Menvra are speaking as one being. When the first form is destroyed, Barthandelus and Menvra are destroyed as well, but they protected Orphan enough so that it could be destroyed by the l'Cie. It is kind of confusing, but yeah. -- 13:03, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

The Prelude does appear in FFXIII! Edit

Doesn't the prelude appear in FFXIII before you're entering Nautilus? Check this:

It starts at 8:04. It's a variation, but it's there!

Thats not the prelude. Although I do think The Prelude is hidden somewhere in The Promise. FFVIIACCXD 23:12, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Fastest selling ever? Edit

Wha bam! Trivia section or the beginning paragraph? Fallen-Todesengel 22:25, May 31, 2010 (UTC)

Nice. Yeah it should be mentioned. Could be in the opening paragraph because it is quite notable. However, there really should be a "reception" section where stuff like sales, PS3 sales compared to Xbox 360 sales, the more... ehhh.... lukewarm reception it has had compared to previous FF games ;) (that Wada bit could be moved from trivia to "reception"), could go. The fact that the game has been extremely polarising should be mentioned somewhere.Keltainentoukokuu 13:19, July 29, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

The Disc Changes Edit

After which chapter do I have to change disk on the Xbox version? Also... I heard you can only load the save files when disc 1 is on the console and change after you load. Is it true? Redeemer & Destroyer 01:59, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

I don't have an XBox, so I can't answer the first question. As to the second question, given that the game was written for the PS3 and ported to the XBox, I would not be surprised if you can only load game saves while disk 1 is in. You probably can't even boot up the game with the other disks. —EGingell (T|C|F) 23:44, October 14, 2010 (UTC)

No, you can load up the game with any disk. + It tells you when to switch disks. 22:26, February 26, 2012 (UTC)

Battle Voice Acting Bug/Glitch Edit

Recently I discovered that after certain events (presumably after Fang joins the party) a strange bug/glitch appears: it considers battle acting in battle, e.g.: when MED heals anyone, "Thank you." can be heard in the background said by Fang even though she is not presented as battle party member. Another example is "Agh!", Hope's words when hit: it also spoils in battle even though he is not present in battle party. Is it consider mentioning or making new article? Wanted to ask first, cause it looks pretty serious.—Kaimi (Talk Page) 08:26, October 15, 2010 (UTC)
P.S.: I encounter it in PAL version, but I think NTSC have it as well, as PAL was nothing else ported to PAL region and no changes made at all.

"Thank you" is said by Lightning. You could also be hearing something that just sounds like hope. I've never ran into that problem before. Koharu Nami 10:29, October 15, 2010 (UTC)

Connections/Allusions To Final Fantasy X? Edit

I think there are connection/allusions to Final Fantasy X as we can see crystal shards ascending in front of entrance to Edenhall, possible referring to pyreflies. And this Door of Souls with afterlife; is a possible reference to the Farplane? Although in XIII you can't actually "visit" your relatives at all.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 20:30, October 24, 2010 (UTC)

Similar concepts are also in FFVII and FFIX. In FFVII you turn into "spirit energy" when you die and return to the Planet. In FFIX you also turn into spirit energy and return to the planet's crystal. In FFX you turn into type of spirit energy, called pyreflies, and return to the planet in a place called the Farplane. In FFXIII you turn into crystal energy when you die, but don't return to planet, but "go to heaven". I think all FF games have the similar cycle of life and death. FFV is shown to have afterlife as well.Keltainentoukokuu 21:06, October 24, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

Thanks for clarifying it for me. Is it still mentioning somewhere on site?—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 18:14, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Sequel? Edit

Is there going to be a sequel to FFXIII or will the epilogue packet in the upcoming Japanese Ulitimate Hit release (or whatever its proper name is) cover everything post-game?

Final Fantasy didn't become Final Fantasy by cranking out a bunch of direct sequels. Aside from all the stuff related to VII, the only example is X-2, and that failed hard enough they decided to scrap their plans for an X-3 about Rikku. So no, there will probably not be a sequel, nor will there necessarily even be more after the ending of the game, especially for us not lucky enough to live in Japan. Sorry. Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 01:13, October 26, 2010 (UTC)
X-2 was extremely successful and there was never any plan for an X-3 about Rikku -- that was a mistranslation by IGN. Kitase later corrected the statement. .:. 18:26, November 1, 2010 (UTC)
Poo. That's too bad. I happened to like X-2, myself, and would have paid good money for a Rikku game. :( Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 18:56, November 1, 2010 (UTC)

Well 13 has a lot of potential for a sequel because really, it left many questions unanswered.  Kayreeed CaliburnDissicon ff13 Lig121:00, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

*opens mouth* *looks at 7* *closes mouth*
Well, at least the argument still holds for FF8. Square doesn't much care about answering questions unless it's going to make them loads of money, which is a sound financial policy and I don't blame them for it. FF7 and FFX are the two most popular titles of the series (7 abroad, X in Japan), so it's pretty natural they got sequels. FF13 has mixed reactions at best. It might have sold fast, especially due to being on multiple consoles, but whether public reaction would support a sequel is something Square would need to gauge.
I'd personally pay good money to get Serah in the party. Give her Leviathan and off you go. Dajh maybe could age a few years and join, too. Choco/Mog FTW? XD Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 21:44, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
Yeah... KayReeedBlackmage-ff1-nes 21:52, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
Don't get me wrong, I would totally preorder FF13-2. If my head is getting flooded with ideas of what they could do with it, I'm sure there's material enough for Square to work with. I'm just not sure Square would be able to justify the risk, especially when so little of the world could be used. You could reuse stuff from Cocoon, but you'd have to justify it, especially when the logical approach would be to explore Pulse more. I never finished myself, but didn't people all migrate down there at the end? It would be a lot of resources in the way, as opposed to X-2, where they could reuse absolutely everything. Making the resources is what eats time and budget.
Of course, if they kept anything they cut out, that would be a head start, too. So maybe it's not totally hopeless. Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 22:37, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
Same here. KayReeedBlackmage-ff1-nes 22:41, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Cocoon's fate in-game hint Edit

I just watched trailer for Final Fantasy XIII and then I got hit by an idea. Do you remember the scene in Chapter 9. where Lightning and Snow are talking about Serah? End of this cutscene hints the the fate of Cocoon (link: watch 0:22÷0:29, the crystal spikes of the tree seems to connect "the moon" with the planet). What do you think?—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 20:43, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Hmmm, maybe, but I think if they were making a reference, it might have been a tiny bit more precise... the tree curves in from the side quite substantially. Still, either way, interesting idea : ) -- Sorceror Nobody Flan 20:57, November 10, 2010 (UTC)
The whole thing that Cocoon is shown through a crystal could be taken as symbolism. And that it was Serah's crystal and Serah's wish that they save Cocoon, which they achieved by crystallising it.Keltainentoukokuu 21:01, November 10, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu
^ This. I uploaded the artwork of Cocoon being looked at through Serah's crystal, and actually originally thought it was an early concept for the crystallized Cocoon. - Paramina 22:04, November 10, 2010 (UTC)

Trivia Edit

On the official Amana artwork, it includes all the main characters, but Snow is not present. Should we add that? SquallRocks 04:06, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Snow is there, he just kinda blends into Sazh.Keltainentoukokuu 04:14, January 9, 2011 (UTC)

Final Fantasy XIII-2 a possibility Edit

So apparently a domain name for Final Fantasy XIII-2 has been purchased, according to this. Moozipan Cheese 15:08, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Hmm. It's not 100% certain from the news if it was actually SE who registered the url, but...would they let someone else register a domain that includes a trademark registered for someone else? I dunno. Plenty of fansites with the name Final Fantasy in the domain though. Still, interesting find. I really don't like the idea of FFXIII sequel though...Keltainentoukokuu 18:13, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Well, I actually enjoyed FFXIII, but I assumed it didn't sell well. I'm sure even fewer actually liked it, so I doubt many people would buy a sequel. Well, I'm sure we'll find out sooner or later anyway, just thought it was somewhat interesting. Moozipan Cheese 19:01, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
FFXIII sold phenomenally well, it broke all previous records by being the fastest selling game in the series' history.
I like aspects of FFXIII, mainly the themes and "philosophy". Sequel though...I think it would be a cop-out if they could still use magic, as that would still mean they are still part l'Cie, which would go against the theme set in the original game. But maybe they can have gameplay where you use no magic, who knows, or maybe they get branded l'Cie again, but that'd be lame...Keltainentoukokuu 19:21, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Oh, wow, I didn't know that. Fair enough. Still, I'd prefer they just hurry up on the next Final Fantasy, rather than an unecessary sequel to this. Now, a prequel on the other hand... Moozipan Cheese 19:46, January 13, 2011 (UTC)
Magic? One word: Manadrives -- SN Cocoon Sig 22:19, January 13, 2011 (UTC)

Alright, it's just now been confirmed at Square's Twitter account here. Moozipan Cheese 12:41, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

"The new game will be out next winter on PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360, and will feature a new story that stems from its predecessor, as well as an evolved battle system." [2]
That usually means different characters. So magic is still in the cards. -- EGingell Talk,WoW Pedia 21:36, January 18, 2011 (UTC)

Anyone seen this Edit

[[File:FF13 wiki read more pic.jpg|thumb|Added by FF9]]

Anyone seen that the read more picture for FF13 is a strange logo--FF9 14:53, January 15, 2011 (UTC)

The arrow is pointing to it--FF9 14:57, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
It must have happened when the flag of Taiwan was added, but I can't seem to find the option to change it. I know there has to be one, because I've seen a place to set it before, although that may have been on page creation or maybe a screenshot somewhere. I think it'll take staff to fix. >_>; Bluestarultor Best-of Stellar Arena sigicon BSA 16:06, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
You can't change the read more pictures, they are automatic. How exactly it chooses a pic is a bit of a mystery. It seems to prefer pics that have a white background or other simple pics, but not usually the one that is in the info box.Keltainentoukokuu 20:35, January 15, 2011 (UTC)
Wait? what the f does Taiwan's flag have to do with ffxiii?--Steamygoreng (talk | contribs) ¡ʞnɔsnoʎ'sıɥʇpɐǝɹnoʎɟı 12:56, January 29, 2011 (UTC)
As FFXIII was released in Taiwan, and the article, like all other game articles, has the Taiwan flag in the game box (Which makes it one of the first images of the very page). - Henryacores^ 15:59, January 29, 2011 (UTC)

Glitch? Edit

I was reading about XIII on the wiki and it said there was a freezing bug that could destroy the PS3

I have never played XIII and despite I heard negative things about it I want to see what the game's like for myself. Yet I am too paranoid to buy it because of the aforementioned glitch.

-Was it fixed or was it just a rumour? I assume if that glitch still existed they'd be recalled, but I know nothing about this. Can someone please inform me of what's going on with that? Moogleknight24 23:38, February 15, 2011 (UTC)Moogleknight24

I play on XIII on the PS3, and I never had a problem. I don't know if they fixed it. Jimcloud Cloud Chocobo 23:42, February 15, 2011 (UTC)
Can't say I've heard about this. Just man up and get it. :P Moozipan Cheese 23:52, February 15, 2011 (UTC)

Japanese Final Fantasy XIII update Edit

Greetings, I am new here (not really new since I read FF Wikia since some years ago). Not sure if this talk page is still active. I am mainly playing Japanese game exclusively (what the others call weeaboo without thinking if that person knows/accustomised with Japanese - though I don't like the name weeaboo attached to me). This is not just because I love Japanese version better than English, but because I live in two regions, Europe and Asia (where Japanese version of the game is dominant - not counting the bootlegs here, which I never bother to buy them). I just want to point out about the Japanese update. The update disables the trick of preemptive attack to the Ochu at the steppe (I heard it does not work with English and Chinese version of the game). Also the update disables the R1 menu when walking to access the "Smoke" menu. I hope someone can add these to the Trivia about the Japanese update (besides enabling Easy Mode). Thanks 16:22, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

You are talking about the Japanese XBox360 version?Keltainentoukokuu 16:48, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
No, I am talking about PlayStation 3 version. Version 1.01, Size 48MB. This is from the entry in this wikia: [quote]On July 21st, 2011, the Japanese PS3 version of the game, got a free update, which introduced Easy Mode difficulty, to get on par with the Japanese Xbox360 version released last year.[/quote]
Also see here: [3] and [4] - not sure if pointing to external site is okay. Please correct me. Maybe I should create an account. 17:43, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

If you want to talk about the japanese version, you might want to go on the japanese Final Fantasy Wikia. This wikia covers information about North American localizations of the games. NowIt'sTimeToDie 18:29, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
It is up to the editors. I do not want to edit the article. I prefer reading it. I simply give the information that this article still lacks. If you are saying that this article covers the english localisation, don't you think it is best to remove all trivia and bits about Japanese version? That it's from me. I'll leave it here for others to consider. I won't be back to the talk page (though of course I will still read the articles) 19:12, December 27, 2011 (UTC)
Some people add trivia just for trivia or for their edit counts, without reading the rules. NowIt'sTimeToDie 19:19, December 27, 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the info, I didn't know about that update. :) It should be in the article; even if this is the English FF Wiki and thus the English localization version is our main focus, all version information is relevant. I will see about adding it!Keltainentoukokuu 02:36, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

This is notable information. We have much deeper coverage of japanese content than this that is not considered trivial. Our scope isn't restricted to the west. It's primarily focused on western releases. - Henryacores^ 16:25, December 28, 2011 (UTC)

Case Design? Edit

Not sure weather to delete... or leave on the article. It's riddled with mistakes and shows no real purpose. Asta-la-bye-bye?  Ultimate Gullwings logo Annihilation   21:34, January 26, 2012 (UTC)

Reception (and related topics)Edit

The game got unholy flak for basically being different than most other games, particularly from a gaming media that praises anything that pays them enough but is quick to bash say the SaGa series for not spoonfeeding the plot enough.

But FFXIII is the first jrpg to basically strip away the illusion of non-linearity that a world map and such provides. In the past while the illusion was there, linearity was maintained by a combination of strong monsters and the fact that going to a town early wouldn't advance the main plotline (maybe a few sub quests if you're lucky). True non-linearity is rare in jrpgs unlike western RPGs (which have become the popular thing at the moment despite Bioware basically undoing the basic wRPG principles)

The second section are elements that are more common in niche series, such as Leader death ending the game (Shin Megami Tensei), or AI controlled allies (Tales, Persona 3). Funny enough is that unlike the two series, the AI allies in FFXIII aren't prone to completely moronic moves.

Not enough people appreciate the progressive (if flawed) approach to the series.

Is this right? Edit

Sazh's Crystal

I think it means to say that you don't have Limit Breaks because you have summons instead, but it all sounds pretty bollocks really, since you do have character-specific special moves. Thanks for bringing it up.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 23:38, October 29, 2012 (UTC)

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