Talk: Final Fantasy Versus XIII

I agree with doing this, personally. I think there should be a discussion on when we give games individual pages, we should have a criteria for it. For instance, I think FFIII/IV 3D and the FFVII remake can have separate pages too.-- Technobliterator ^T_C 20:18, September 1, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, I thought we had already agreed on it somewhere...Guess I should've asked! I'm usually going by the lines "if there is enough information to create an article, then it can be an article" but...yeah that's not really a good policy outline. Main things on a game article imo are gonna be gameplay, story, and development info, and for Versus it seemed to be all of those are distinct from FFXV; different gameplay, what little of story scenes were revealed will not be in FFXV, and developed by a basically different development team.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:41, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Mhm. I think different title, drastically different grahpics/models, major difference in mechanics or otherwise, can all result in a page being created for a different version of a game. Would that work?-- Technobliterator ^T_C 21:52, September 2, 2015 (UTC)

Well, Final Fantasy Tactics: The War of the Lions has been criticised for having an article when it is just the same game with additions. If the game has a graphics overhaul it'll look much different but if it would just share the same story and gameplay info then does it make sense to have two articles...Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 08:13, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

I think we had agreed to merge War of the Lions with FFT. It's just too difficult to actually do it. lots of info we have to decide where to put them in FFT article. Character names from the PS1 version should be replaced with their PSP names too. Monterossa (talk) 10:04, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Finally, something that I wanted to mention to this wiki, talking about something that I hate about this wiki and other wikis - well those that I visit. Prepare for a wall of text. If we merge War of the Lions, then Final Fantasy X/X-2 HD Remaster needs a merging too along with other game articles like Final Fantasy Chronicles and Final Fantasy Anthology among others. It follows Technobliterator and Monterossa's logic which I disagree with said logic. The wikis priority should be accuracy. Every game with different titles should have their own articles, they all have different history/development/problems/etc along with specific alterations/additions, I'm not a fan of shoving it on a single article. I really don't see the harm in them existing, but I do see the benefit they would bring by making it so that player's (new and old) can easily see the differences/alterations. This is a good time to do away with the version differences sub-page articles and place said information within these game's articles (ports/remakes/re-imagine/etc), they all have specific things to said about said versions. One of the things I've see commonly on forums, what's the difference between Final Fantasy # (original) and Final Fantasy # (recent release with additions including) game (introduce new bugs/lag/etc with other problem and bugfixs/patches/etc). Since we are an online encyclopedia, we should be as accurate with information as possible including were said item/etc came from. If said game brings new items/enemies/etc, and brings a header on said item/weapon/armor/etc. The wiki should put said header with the correct version of the game, again, accuracy. I just browse the internet a few moments ago, we apparently have an Unreleased Material category which I was unaware a moment ago, so Final Fantasy II NES, Final Fantasy III NES/2D, Final Fantasy IV Easy Type, Final Fantasy V SNES, and Final Fantasy XII International Zodiac Job System would need to have an article of their own since these version were never release outside Japan, and we simply cannot tag the current Final Fantasy # articles as they stand at the moment. The tag would need to be place on them regardless of the outcome of the decision the wiki ends up making since these are true that they were never release outside Japan. Now, I've said all that I wanted to say. Fenrir9 (talk) 10:52, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

FFX/X-2 has its own article because it's a compilation release. the article is about the product, just like Final Fantasy IV: The Complete Collection, Final Fantasy Anthology, Final Fantasy Collection, etc. For FF3 and 4 3D, yeah I agree that they can have their own article. Monterossa (talk) 11:06, September 3, 2015 (UTC)

Verum Rex

Okay from what I can gather, Verum Rex one of the most popular games in the Toy Box. The protagonist is likely based on Sora (since their clothes are similar and the blue eyes) and his name is Yozora (Rex mistakes Sora for him) the other characters may be based on the other protagonists; the red hared guy might be based on Axel, the girl may be Kairi and the other guy might be Riku. Something is called the Gigas not sure which one that is but Hamm apparently likes this one the most.--Xion V. (talk) 11:20, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Also I was going through the trophy section on my PS and there is a trophy called Centurion that you get by earning 12,000,000 points in Verum Rex: Beat of Lead. So apparently it is this appears as a minigame as well. Haven't played it (more like don't know where it is) yet on no details.--Xion V. (talk) 13:16, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

That's good info. Isn't the way the guy and the girl try to touch hands the same thing as what Sora and Kairi do in the ending of the first KH, too? The scene does seem to have some FFXV/Versus XIII allusions too, with the invasion of a metropolis by flying robots that glow blue (they changed magitek engines from blue to red from Versus XIII to FFXV). There were three key art I assume by Nomura back in the day where Lightning, Noctis and I think Sora all sit on a solitary chair in an otherwise empty room holding their weapon, so maybe the Verum Rex "key art" is kind of a parody is this style.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 16:01, January 29, 2019 (UTC)

Okay they kinda went above and beyond with this parody. In the Game Store there is a large display in the middle for this game. It has two different "versions" both with different box art and even prices and the cardboard stand even says Square Enix so I think they are supposed to be the makers of that game in the World's canon.--Xion V. (talk) 16:28, January 29, 2019 (UTC)