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Picky Eater[edit source]

Move to "Transportation (Final Fantasy VII)" or "List of Final Fantasy VII Transportation" plz. Personally, I prefer the first. Although it may seem a tag isn't needed; there are some VIII transportation articles. They themselves could probably be moved into one article.  ILHI 22:54, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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I agree with that. I'll work on something tomorrow.  ILHI 22:59, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Some updates[edit source]

The bombers shown in Crisis Core are Gelnika's; The article is wrong in saying there's only one in the original game (You can see more than one parked at the airstrip), and one is shown taking off from Junon in a FMV with the Huge Materia bound for Rocket Town. Some other tweaks; the sA-27 is a four-wheeled vehicle, and is the vehicle Rufus rides on during the Junon Parade, with another one seen in Cid's garage. The ShinRa Helicopters are the same basic vehicle, the second one having the platform grafted on with a supporting liftfan; the concept art also depicts them as b1 alpha and beta (the greek symbols), denoting the base airframe as the B1 series. There is a new truck/jeep like vehicle from Advent Children and Crisis Core, and the helicopter shown in Advent Children and Crisis Core is a JMSDF variant of the Sikorsky SH-60 shipboard Anti-submarine helicopter. There are also a multitude of wrecked vehicles at the Corel Prison, and the various Deepground vehicles (Plus WRO's Shadowfox) from Dirge of Cerberus. ShinRa Actual 04:43, 1 September 2009 (UTC)

SOLDIER truck[edit source]

The one in Cloud's flashback that they ride in when a Dragon gets Sephirothd. Not here. JBed (talk) 05:37, August 18, 2014 (UTC)

Name[edit source]

Shouldn't the article be named "Transportation (Final Fantasy VII)"? I think that would be more in line with our article naming policy.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 17:00, November 16, 2015 (UTC)

I definitely wouldn't name it that, that's really a bad use of tags here. I'd name it "Transportation in Final Fantasy VII" or "List of Final Fantasy VII Transportation" - probably the latter.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 17:31, November 16, 2015 (UTC)
I don't know, does "list of transportation" make sense, is that a noun you can enumerate? Walking as a method of transportation is not mentioned (not that I think it should), so is it even the best name. List of FFVII Vehicles? (Is chocobo "a vehicle"?)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 19:01, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
I don't see an issue with it.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 19:05, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

You shouldn't use a tag when its a real-world term we apply to the game rather than a term from the game. Hence "List of FFX Characters" rather than "Characters (FFX)". In other cases we use subpages to cover it. Like Final Fantasy VII/Timeline (which isn't a good page name because it has no reason to not be a standalone article, yet we're trying to make it look like its an offshoot of the game article).

And sometimes we just put the game first, like here and with Wallpapers. We also have other strange article names like Religious allusions in Final Fantasy and Final Fantasy in popular culture. I guess the latter's not bad, but you wonder why the former can't just be "Religious Allusions" as if the rest wouldn't be obvious.

But for these types of articles, articles that explain subjects using a real-world term applied to a game, that explains it as systems and not just a series of things (a list), I would suggest we go with: "Transportation in Final Fantasy VII". JBed (talk) 19:47, November 17, 2015 (UTC)

That's what I suggested, but it's not like people will go for that since everyone seems to be allergic to article titles that are unusual. I don't like the timeline names either, hell I hate how we have "Menu (Final Fantasy VII)" instead of just "Menu in Final Fantasy VII" or something as well.
I don't know if it wouldn't just be better to make a world map page for each of the games instead though. A while back Drake wanted to sort out these location list/parent pages, but never got around to it.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 20:33, November 17, 2015 (UTC)
Well...what's wrong with "Final Fantasy VII Transportation" then, why is "Transportation in Final Fantasy VII" better?Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 01:45, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
The subject is the crux of what the article is about, that it's from Final Fantasy VII is less important, so it goes last in the title.
The main problem I'm seeing is just how few pages are titled like this. I wish more were, because if this were normalised, we'd probably be using tags in inappropriate pages less. I don't know if making Transportation pages for each game is a thing we should do, though...maybe?--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 01:59, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
It's just awkward as a page title, don't you think? Although I can't think why I think the "List of" prefix makes things much different.
I just noticed something strange with Wikipedia: the FF games character lists are called "Characters of x", while most character lists I've seen on Wikipedia are "List of x characters". I wonder what the difference is. JBed (talk) 02:34, November 18, 2015 (UTC)
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