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Should these just be on the characters' own articles if we're not gonna make an article that lists just the abilities?Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:19, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

I had planned that the character-specific lists would go to the character articles and this would be a list of abilities that could then be anchored and linked to from the character & equipment articles. Perhaps my made-up ordering was what prompted it being removed, as the support abilities are not in any strict order in the game so I had made my own categories. I understand why that's not optimal, but...currently there is no way to link to specific support abilities from FFIX.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 17:55, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

I agree with this, mostly. The character-specific lists would just need to link to the ability and give the AP count. I guess equipment would probably be useful too. Sub-divisions of auto abilities isn't entirely necessary. Rather than rowspan, a system like this may be easier(?).
But as it stands, this page is full of redundancy. I support the original design. JBed (talk) 18:15, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
In the game the "auto-enchantment" abilities are at the top in the same order for every character, and same for immunity abilities are at the bottom, but then in the middle the ability list seems to be a bit...varied. I didn't think an alphabetical list would be the best since same types seem to be put together in the game, but then didn't really know where to go with it. Make it just one big list corresponding roughly to in-game list?Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 18:40, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
Yeah, I can probably find the absolute list order.
  • Auto-Reflect
  • Auto-Float
  • Auto-Haste
  • Auto-Regen
  • Auto-Life
  • HP+10%
  • HP+20%
  • MP+10%
  • MP+20%
  • Accuracy+
  • Distract
  • Long Reach
  • MP Attack
  • Bird Killer
  • Bug Killer
  • Stone Killer
  • Undead Killer
  • Dragon Killer
  • Devil Killer
  • Beast Killer
  • Man Eater
  • High Jump
  • Master Thief
  • Steal Gil
  • Healer
  • Add Status
  • Gamble Defence
  • Chemist
  • Power Throw
  • Power Up
  • Reflect-Null
  • Reflectx2
  • Mag Elem Null
  • Concentrate
  • Half MP
  • High Tide
  • Counter
  • Cover
  • Protect Girls
  • Eye 4 Eye
  • Body Temp
  • Alert
  • Initiative
  • Level Up
  • Ability Up
  • Millionaire
  • Flee-Gil
  • Guardian Mog
  • Insomniac
  • Antibody
  • Bright Eyes
  • Loudmouth
  • Restore HP
  • Jelly
  • Return Magic
  • Absorb MP
  • Auto-Potion
  • Locomotion
  • Clear Headed
  • Boost
  • Odin's Sword
  • Mug
  • Bandit
  • Void
That's the order the text is stored in, though it is still technically possible for the order to be different in-game. That look right? JBed (talk) 18:47, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
Nice that would be very helpful. Looks right to me. There is no ability called Void so I assume that's just blank. That would probably be the best order. I don't think we have the in-game descriptions either (that show if you summon the "help moogle" with square button), so if those would also be available that would be even greater.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 19:11, August 5, 2014 (UTC)
  • Automatically casts
    $ZReflect$Y in battle.
  • Automatically casts
    $ZFloat$Y in battle.
  • Automatically casts
    $ZHaste$Y in battle.
  • Automatically casts
    $ZRegen$Y in battle.
  • Automatically casts
    $ZLife$Y in battle.
  • Increases HP by 10%.
  • Increases HP by 20%.
  • Increases MP by 10%.
  • Increases MP by 20%.
  • Raises physical
    attack accuracy.
  • Lowers enemy’s physical
    attack accuracy.
  • Back row attacks like
    front row.
  • Uses own MP to raise
    $ZAttack Pwr$Y.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to flying enemies.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to insects.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to stone enemies.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to undead enemies.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to dragons.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to demons.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to beasts.
  • Deals lethal damage
    to humans.
  • Jump higher to raise
    jump attack power.
  • Steal better items.
  • Steal Gil along with items.
  • Restores target’s HP.
  • Adds weapon’s status effect
    (Add ST) when you Attack.
  • Raises $ZDefence$Y occasionally.
  • Doubles the potency of
    medicinal items.
  • Raises the strength
    of Throw.
  • Raises the strength
    of Chakra.
  • Nullifies $ZReflect$Y
    and attacks.
  • Doubles the strength of
    spells by using $ZReflect$Y.
  • Nullifies magic element.
  • Raises the strength
    of spells.
  • Cuts MP use by half
    in battle.
  • Allows you to Trance faster.
  • Counter-attacks when
    physically attacked.
  • You take damage in
    place of an ally.
  • You take damage in
    place of a girl.
  • Raises Counter
    activation rate.
  • Prevents $ZFreeze$Y and $ZHeat$Y.
  • Prevents back attacks.
  • Raises the chance of
    first strike.
  • Characters level up faster.
  • Characters learn
    abilities faster.
  • Receive more Gil
    after battle.
  • Receive Gil even when
    running from battle.
  • Mog protects with
    unseen forces.
  • Prevents $ZSleep$Y.
  • Prevents $ZPoison$Y and $ZVenom$Y.
  • Prevents $ZDarkness$Y.
  • Prevents $ZSilence$Y.
  • Restores HP automatically
    when $ZNear Death$Y.
  • Prevents $ZPetrify$Y
    and $ZGradual Petrify$Y.
  • Returns magic used
    by enemy.
  • Absorbs MP used by enemy.
  • Automatically uses $ZPotion$Y
    when damaged.
  • Prevents $ZStop$Y.
  • Prevents $ZConfusion$Y.
  • Raises strength of eidolons.
  • Attacks with eidolon Odin.
  • Damages enemy
    when you Steal.
  • Raises success rate
    of Steal.

The $Z and $Y are commands to change the colour. So $Z makes it... uh, red IIRC, and then $Y makes it white again.

And yeah, Void is dummied, its description is blank. Don't know if it does anything or even if it can be added. I could find out but not important. JBed (talk) 19:15, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

Woah. That's epic. I'll try my hand with an ability list later unless someone beats me to it, maybe without any crazy rowspan business. :D I think the character-specific ability lists can be used on the characters' own articles.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 19:39, August 5, 2014 (UTC)

APEdit

[1] I checked the data and the value given was 90, so to be sure I checked in the game and the value is 90. JBed (talk) 21:15, August 6, 2014 (UTC)

Cool. I looked online and some guides say 45 & 35 and some say 90 & 80. So...I put both. ?_? But lets go with the one that's been confirmed. Could be a version difference but who knows, would be a bit of a weird one if it is.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 02:30, August 7, 2014 (UTC)

Long range/reach does not give you the ability to attack Ozma with short range physical attacks if you didn't do the friendly monsters quest

Thanks for the info. Can't think of any other target that would be out of reach though. Maybe that's not a mechanic in this game.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:55, May 29, 2017 (UTC)
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