Talk: Final Aeon

Is it ever mentioned that Yu Yevon taking over the Final Aeon is what kills the Summoner? Last I checked, Rikku mentioned that it was the Final Aeon that killed the Summoner with its own hands.

As to why Guardians wouldn't protect the summoner from the Final Aeon, I guess that can be summed up with "If it can easily kill Sin, what chance do we have?"

Is Anima really Seymour's final aeon?

Can Anima really by considered as Seymour's final aeon when the party is able to summon it? Presumably, anyone else can since it has it's own temple and fayth area whodyamafluisit.

I always wondered that, HOWEVER, working mechanics seem to state that someone who died to become an Aeon is a 'Final Aeon.' I always wondered why Seymour never took care of Sin, with his dear old Mum. But Zaon also has a Fayth, in Zanarkand Temple, which could be considered his templeTheAddictedOne 16:30, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

I might just be forgetting, but is it ever said anywhere that Seymour's mother became a fayth in different way to the other fayths that aren't final aeons? Cefcasan 16:56, July 24, 2010 (UTC)

Naw, because in Zanarkand temple, while you're running and the music is making you have a panic attack (or maybe that's me), you see Seymour and his Mom running through and she's all like, YO, Make me your fayth ( at least thats what I heard ^^)TheAddictedOne 11:25, July 29, 2010 (UTC)

What is the name of the original final aeon? The one that has been dead for however many years? I was curious about it, but I can't find any info on it. (This comment made by 97.120.22.215)

I don't think it was ever named. But then in most cases, they're just called by the names they had as humans. I'm not sure, but this may also be true of Anima. Also, in the future, please sign your posts with 4 tildes (~). ;) Bluestarultor 05:48, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

I'm sorry, just now saw that. And they did name him, I just watched the cut scene and it had a name. I just can't remember what it was... short term memory issues maybe? Yunalesca is KILLING me right now... 97.120.22.215 05:52, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Okay, for some reason either I didn't sign it right or my computer is screwed up. Sorry about that guys. Let's try this again... 97.120.22.215 05:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

I also just played through that part - it is never called anything but Zaon. Although for all we know, maybe Seymour's mother was named Anima. --Adonzo 06:00, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Ah nvm, just remembered him being called Paragon in X-2 (although he was never called this in X, so i am partially right >.>)--Adonzo 18:54, August 3, 2010 (UTC)

Removal of Anima?

Now, the edit says that because he didn't use it to defeat sin, it isn't a final aeon, but the intentions surely make it a final Aeon? A final Aeon is a final aeon, because it is a person who shared a close personal bond with the summoner.

Yunalesca: 'The bond between Lovers, friends, mother and son.." (etc.)

And since the intention was a final aeon, doesn't that make her one?TheAddictedOne 17:31, August 7, 2010 (UTC)

Well I think it could be considered either way. Final Aeon isn't really any different than the other Aeons, it's just the name given to the one a summoner acquires at the end of their pilgrimage in order to summon against Sin. Yunalesca made Seymour's mother a Fayth because she asked for it, but Seymour didn't do the pilgrimage or summon it against Sin. Yunalesca made Anima as an Aeon to be used against Sin though.Keltainentoukokuu 20:29, August 7, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

Another argument against it is that summoning the Final Aeon is supposed to kill the summoner, yet Seymour summons Anima freely without repercussions. EDIT: Nevermind, yet again failed to read the page - Yu Yevon claiming the Aeon as his own is what kills the summoner, not the summon itself. --Adonzo 01:15, August 8, 2010 (UTC)

Definition of "Final Aeon"

Some person re-added information that Anima/Seymour's mother is fayth for the Final Aeon, and he has stated they his mother wanted to be fayth for the Final Aeon, but her son refused to. Sometime earlier this information was dumped. My problem is that Seymour's mother will be mentioned as Final Aeon, and here a bigger problem borns: what actually is Final Aeon? Fayth of the completed Final Summoning, or even unused fayth for the Final Summoning?

I think to avoid this problem in future we should make section called Fayth Which Not Became Final Aeon, But Was Known To Be or something like that. And Paragon should be above Braska's Final Aeon: he was the 1st fayth to be use in process. I hope you understand me.—Kaimi 17:54, September 19, 2010 (UTC)

Final Aeon Summoning is NOT Fatal

I believe the information here is incorrect. While it was believed by the summoners that the summoning act itself is fatal, the encounter with Yunalesca reveals that the summoning itself is not fatal, but the possession by Yu Yevon after breaking Sin open causes the Final Aeon to turn on his summoner.

The Final Aeon, being a new fayth with a direct emotional bond to the summoner is extremely powerful. As soon as it busts Sin open, Yu Yevon pops out and takes control of it, then uses it to kill the summoner before turning it into a new Sin.

This is why Anima can be the Final Aeon for the still alive Seymour, created from his mother. It is also why the sending of Yunalesca meant the end of Final Aeons; She was the only person surviving the machina war that still held the secret to turning a person into a fayth. For whatever reason, she didn't want to pass this information on, probably to prevent a brigade a summoners from sacrificing their guardians to create a small army of Final Aeons that might defeat Yu Yevon before he could possess them all.

And, lastly, it suggests why Yuna's summon of Anima is far weaker than Seymour's. The long prayer at each fayth is meant to create an emotion bond between summoner and fayth, but the prayer-style emotion isn't nearly as strong as that of a close friend, lover, or sibling. Of course, it's rather hard to form a close personal friendship with a hunk of rock, so the prayer-route is the only feasible method for existing fayth, and why the summons coming from them aren't strong enough to defeat Sin.

-- 67.81.226.35 18:19, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

The Final Fantasy X Ultimania confirms that the severing of the mental tie between the Final Aeon and the Summoner when Yu Yevon possesses the Aeon is what kills the Summoner. Keltainentoukokuu 18:37, May 24, 2011 (UTC)

Penance a Final Aeon?

The super-boss Penance that appears after all the dark aeons are defeated, isn't it also a Final Aeon? Because it is summoned and it also appears where sin was defeated in the Calm Lands (The Scar) by the second high summoner Gandof. Lord Zaon also returns after he was absorbed by Yu Yevon in FFX-2, so I guess the final aeons can be re-summoned after thet are destroyed as Sin's Core.

It is never explained what Penance is. Everyone's free to make their own theories of course, but I'm afraid it can't be in the article if it's not indicated in some official material.Keltainentoukokuu 18:31, November 5, 2011 (UTC)

Paragon

As pleasing as it is to consider Paragon is a Final Aeon is there any proof? Sure Lord Zaon who we know became a Final Aeon turns into him but like five bosses before him also do the same thing. Are we to believe that Kinoc, Jyscal, Mika and Yunalesca herself were all final aeons too? (particularly in Yunalesca's case since she died summoning her final aeon which conveys the image of Aeons summoning each other). Zaon = Paragon could easily be due to his status as an unsent like the others before him. His scan even names Paragon as a fiend. I would like this to be true though is there any source that states or implies Paragon in an aeon? Oni Dark Link 22:48, June 2, 2012 (UTC)