Talk: Fal'Cie

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I think it is written fal'Cie as seen in the E3-Trailer. --Dr. Crisp 07:29, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

You sure that's the official name and not some fan fansubbing the trailer? Bluer 13:04, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

(Must I talk in this boring mode?) Apparantly Wikipedia found those names "official" enough to write them out like that. And I thought this trailer: [1] (that movie is claimed to be the exact E³ Trailer taken off of a camera) was official. Would Game Trailers lie to me? --BlueHighwind 13:25, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

I see. Must have missed the press conference trailer :p Bluer 13:54, 17 July 2008 (UTC)

How does one pronounce this? —BfD (talk·contribs) Confirm deletion|^{23:19, 22 November 2008 (UTC)}

Japanese is "Fa - ru - shi", so I'd guess "fal" (like "far" with an "l" sound) and "si". — Yuan^Saluto!_Acta 03:03, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Kind Of Like False. Facky 00:01, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

I did not think it was possible, but after seeing what they do to I'Cie who have failed, these guys might just turn out to be worse then the bloody Occuria. Exdeath64 06:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)

it's possible

Pulse fal'Cie

The entity is called Pulse fal'Cie in every source material, not "Gran Pulse fal'Cie". Again, Gran Pulse is the wilderness, Pulse is the entire planet.

I would not bet on that, dear anonymous. Somehow official source materials called them Gran-Pulse fal'Cie. AJDurai 02:57, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

FYI you are responding to a note left in November. Anyways, it is now established that Pulse = Gran Pulse. -User:PanSola^{(talk/history)} 03:36, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Whatever makes you happy, dear friend >:3 AJDurai 04:32, February 24, 2010 (UTC)

Plural of Focus

Just suggesting we use the proper plural of Focus, which is "Foci", instead of "focuses" or reword that sentence to refer to the singular of Focus. Dormous 01:51, March 18, 2010 (UTC)

Pagename

I understand you have chosen to use "fal'Cie" over "Fal'Cie" with the title. Correct me if I'm wrong (but I'm pretty sure my memory lasts longer than two days (well actually, not on all occasions (sometimes it spans not even two seconds)) and my eyesight isn't really bad (although it actually is)) but when "fal'Cie" is used at the start of a sentence it becomes "Fal'Cie". So that's what the article name should be. It's only in cases where the first letter is ALWAYS lowercase where you should change it in the title. You don't see Wikipedia's article on loneliness using an upper case first letter. 81.170.67.169 20:01, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I thought about bringing this up, but I decided against being so nitpicky. Yes, it should be a capital F. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 20:29, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Yup, you're right. I looked at the Datalog and it was written as: "The Fal'Cie" :p Judge Balthier 20:43, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Spoiler warning

Shouldn't the spoiler warning start from the profile section? Since it tells a major infromation about the story. Specifically these: "some fal'Cie seek to bring back the Maker ..." and "In the course of Final Fantasy XIII, some fal'Cie use the l'Cie to set up a plan to destroy Cocoon for them in order to be reunited with their creators."
Just asking cuz I don't want to change it before it was agreed upon. RazielZero 20:10, July 17, 2010 (UTC)

fal'cie plan

just wondering if anyone knew whether the pulse fal'cie are in on the whole destroy cocoon to call the maker plan.

I don't think they collectively are, because they seem to just mind their own business and some do not even appear particularly sentient. Anima did want to destroy Cocoon, though, but it's unknown why; if it was working with the Cocoon fal'Cie or it just wanted it for its own agenda. Good question is why didn't Anima do it earlier? It was just hanging around there in the Vestige for 500 years.Keltainentoukokuu 16:09, November 21, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

OK how about this one: Maker makes the world, the humans and the fal'Cie, and then leaves. The fal'Cie roam around the world looking for a way to follow the Maker but are unsuccessful. Then one day, Lindzei shows up and says that she(he?) knows a way to call the Maker back; the only way to do so is to make a sacrifice of millions of people. Some fal'Cie follow Lindzei and Lindzei brands them as her own fal'Cie (similar to how a fal'Cie brands a l'Cie), while other fal'Cie reject Lindzei's plan because it is obviously against how the Maker wished it (Maker didn't want the fal'Cie to hurt the people). So Lindzei instructs the fal'Cie that are now hers to make Cocoon, but oh dear, the fal'Cie have been had; once they have made the Cocoon, they realise they can't destroy it themselves because it's against their Focus. Lindzei, thinking this was all a hilarious joke, departs forever, leaving the fal'Cie without a god to follow once again. The Pulse fal'Cie hate Lindzei for leading people away, tricking everyone and turning some of the fal'Cie into its slaves. Cocoon was also built of stuff looted from Pulse leaving everything in ruins, so they also harbor hatred toward it for that reason. Also, the Maker didn't plan to have Cocoon, so the Pulse fal'Cie might wish for Cocoon's demise because it is such an "abomination".Keltainentoukokuu 16:23, November 21, 2010 (UTC)Keltainentoukokuu

Fal'Cie tagging

I noticed that "Carbucle" and "Eden" as fal'cie articles have "(Fal'Cie)" tag, while others fal'Cie with their own articles have "(Final Fantasy XIII)" tag. Shouldn't we make the tagging consistent? I opt for "(Fal'Cie)".—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 20:22, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

(Final Fantasy XIII) tag is used as default if it's free. If there is more than one thing it can refer to it gets broken down.Keltainentoukokuu 21:32, February 1, 2012 (UTC)

So tag for "Fenrir" will be "(Final Fantasy XIII-2)," then? Or we will ommit the "-2" thing? But seriously, we need some kind of consistency in that matter: I just noticed that "Carbuncle (Final Fantasy XIII)" redirects to "Carbuncle (Fal'Cie)," which is kinda odd to me.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 08:02, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Carbuncle can be two things in FFXIII, the fal'Cie or the Eidolon...so probably that's why. The Eidolon is covered in the Eidolon (Final Fantasy XIII) and Carbuncle (Summon) pages and doesn't have its own page. Maybe it should be a disambig rather than redirect. If the Fenrir is the only Fenrir in FFXIII-2 then it should get the game tag.Keltainentoukokuu 17:22, February 2, 2012 (UTC)

Unknown Fal'Cie

Umm, there's concept art of this one Fal'cie (at least I think it's a Fal'Cie) and I was wondering what's up with it. It reminds me of Eden's servants because of the human similarity in its face. I doubt it's Nemesis, despite the fact that I've never seen Nemesis, Nemesis is supposed to be a purple Amina. Anyone want to help out? (Leviathan657 (talk) 23:36, January 22, 2013 (UTC))

This is a photo of a shiny sheet of paper, and it's of bad quality. I doubt anyone will make any sense from the text of a photo of that quality. A scan on the other hand, would be more faithful and not so shiny and would have much clearer text. Although, it might be an initial concept of Eden.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) 23:42, January 22, 2013 (UTC)

On the upper half of the scan there is the "portal" in the Pulse Vestige that takes Serah away from Snow during the flashback. On the lower half, the humanoid creature actually appears in that same flashback, coming from the vestige itself.. so, I'm pretty much sure it's Anima. ^^ --Pmbarbieri (talk) 00:02, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

To be precise (I'm looking at the actual page in my own book here). The top image is a close up of the "Detector Fal'cie", which is the Fal'cie that acts as the outer layer to the Anima fal'Cie, I think. Anima is only that Nemesis-looking thing you actually fight inside that chamber. The whole structure that contains him is the Detector Fal'cie, which is shown in full on the previous page (not shown here). The woman-looking fal'cie is actually the Cocoon fal'Cie that is carrying the Vestige from Bodhum. You can see it above the Vestige in the large artwork on the previous page, holding the whole thing up with threads as it moves it away from Bodhum. Espritduo (talk) 01:45, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Mh... that makes sense, especially for the design. So, is there an explaination why Adam from XIII-2 has this "detector fal'Cie" too, other than "lazy creature designing"? Couldn't it be seen as an actual part of the fal'Cie itself? Also, does the "carrying fal'Cie" have a name? --Pmbarbieri (talk) 02:06, January 23, 2013 (UTC)

Sorry about the quality, now that I know what the thing is, I found out that there's a much better image already here, credited only as the "Guardian of Vestige". I know it doesn't seem to have a name (?) but shouldn't it be added to the Fal'Cie page though? (50.101.137.47 04:12, January 23, 2013 (UTC))

Where did Protera's name come from? Did someone translate the page? Also does anyone else think Protera looks a little like the Lindzei statues in overall shape/design? Can someone also clear up the matter of The Maker with me? Like Bhunivelze created the first three fal'Cie, Pulse, Etro and Lindzei, who were later worshiped like gods because of their roles in creation, but Bhunivelze then put himself in stasis until Etro's Gate could be found, and Pulse created the second tier Pulse fal'Cie that we know (promptly followed by Lindzei's creation of the Sanctum fal'Cie). So who's being referred to as "The Maker", Bhunivelze, Pulse or Lindzei? Please help (Leviathan657 (talk) 03:54, February 1, 2013 (UTC))

Maker - This article may clarify it for you.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 04:08, February 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks :) (Leviathan657 (talk) 06:45, February 3, 2013 (UTC))

Cactuar and Leviathan

While I think I've already read that Leviathan was a fal'Cie that had only been mentioned, but is there any concept art or screen shots anywhere of Cactuar or was it just another mention? (Leviathan657 (talk) 06:45, February 3, 2013 (UTC))

Pandaemonium

When does the game say Pandaemonium is a proto-fal'Cie? I remember Hope said very clearly that it's "the last of its kind", and calls it a fal'Cie in-game. --Pmbarbieri (talk) 21:38, February 27, 2014 (UTC)

In the first stretch of that back-door "tour" to infiltrate the palace in Yusnaan.  mecorx (talk) - 08:54, Feb 28, 2014  

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