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{{Dazuro|text=I can't see anything that screams 'Terra' about that silhouette--she and Celes have nearly identical gloves in their CGI forms and some art, and no other details are clearly visible. Beyond that, the FF6 Ultimania thing (see Kefka talk page for source) indicates that he treasures Celes as something to play carefully with--he even refers to her as a doll, and also like a family member. Terra, on the other hand, he fears and has no such attachment to. Thus, I think Kefka's dialogue points towards Celes being the heroine pick.}} |
{{Dazuro|text=I can't see anything that screams 'Terra' about that silhouette--she and Celes have nearly identical gloves in their CGI forms and some art, and no other details are clearly visible. Beyond that, the FF6 Ultimania thing (see Kefka talk page for source) indicates that he treasures Celes as something to play carefully with--he even refers to her as a doll, and also like a family member. Terra, on the other hand, he fears and has no such attachment to. Thus, I think Kefka's dialogue points towards Celes being the heroine pick.}} |
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Dissidia sequel?
Didn't Super smash brothers have a sequel? with more characters? that was super smash brothers melee. The super smash brothers brawl. Their first game had 15 characters. dissidia has "20" so far. Maybe, they will have a sequel, this time on more platforms. | |||
Rocking Chair - She looks like the real thing, tastes like the real thing. My Fake Plastic Love TALK - 4:19 31 July 2008 (EST) | |||
I certainly hope so. I don't have a PSP and i want it so badly. Bring it out on DS or on the Wii or something that i have P.s Im loving Super Smash Bros Brawl | |||
Dramirth: Hey, I have been following the ff7ac hotcafe page (although I don't understand even a word, it's Japanese) and I want you guys to check this page: http://ff7ac.hotcafe.to/rs/report-news080819_2.html
That page has been referring to Dissidia as DDFF, and according to that article, I think it has something to do with Dissidia and Kingdom Hearts to be transferred to PS3?
If someone knows Japanese, it really would help if that person could translate this possible rumour.
Aerith
How come everybody thinks Cloud will fight Sephy. Why not Aerith. I mean if this game is in a different ""world then I guess that Aerith/Aeris would be Alive. Aerith is more representing of light then Cloud. I guess that she could wield a staff withblades at the end. Materiasdraw
Lame. It should be Tifa. Then Sephiroth and Tifa can fall in love and conquer the universe together. And then gather up a space shuttle full of Vaan, Cait Sith, Quina Quen, the entire cast of FFVIII (sans Edea), and Rikku, then launch the whole gaggle into a star that just so happens to be supernova-ing at that very second. That would make it the most awesome game ever made. PS: A nightmare of mine that I once had is that it will turn out to be Genesis. EWWWWWWW!!! I hear that he's supposed to be good now, or some shit. But that idea is too crazy. Nope, Cloud is the man. | |||
I think someone said it was going to be reno (Gag) Materiasdraw
naaaw! it's Cid! After killin Sephy, Cid climbs down the pit of Hades and kills the legion of the undead while fighting the dead FF bosses all at once. By the time he reached th bottom he was in a blind fury and kills Aerith (again). For his sins, Lucifer had Cid's spear attached to his hand by a flaming chain, the badass then kills Lucifer before he ends up in front of Zack, now bald and armed with two flaming buster swords in his hands and linked by a chain. The fight was so intense they killed all the dead FF heroes before Cid impales his spear tru Zacks brain (Zack's only weakness). Cid then climbs up the Pit of Hades while cutting down the arms of Hades himself trying to capture the badass soul, by the time Cid's up, he turned pale and bald and kills the other cast of Dissidia. Thats how it should have been, I kno cuz The guys at Squeenix told me the earth shattering plot. | |||
Cloud was sorta announced without being announced at ComicCon when he showed up amongst the Dissidia Trading Arts. With the DKΣ3713 Party coming up this weekend, I get the feeling that a new trailer will be released (there are already rumors on the Japanese web of a take-home demo showing up as well) that will probably confirm him and a few others. It is a lil sad how under-represented the girls of FF are in this game... Terra is pretty much the only hope at this point. (Though, in my secret land of rainbows and unicorns, I have hope that Faris would represent FFV for Cosmos. Ah, que sera sera...) | |||
Was that confirmed to be Dissidia Cloud? I mean I saw the small pictures of it and it was the only one in color, unlike the other prototypes. I don't doubt Cloud will be in this (fanboys would rage if he wasn't), but that figure looked like the Cloud Play Arts figure that has been out for awhile. | |||
It could be Cloud from Crisis Core. I mean, I saw the pics; they had three Crisis Core Play Arts figures - there's Cloud, Zack and Aerith. | |||
Take a look at this image as well as this one. He's right between Dissidia Sephiroth and Warrior of Light, and thus right by the display label. We can also rule out the other two FF7 style Cloud Trading Arts - Volume 1 and Potion - since their poses and other details are different. I was skeptical at first as well, but I can't really argue with the evidence. | |||
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Krystal Tomlin -  "When prayers turn to promises, not even fate can stand in our way." TALK - 03:31, 3 August 2008 (UTC) - "Wouldn't wanna be you!" | |||
Cloud is the main character of FFVII and that is a fact! He must be in Dissidia! | |||
nameless character??
realy Square-enix will put the warrior of light and Onion Knight nameless maybe the Onion Knight name will be Luneth, but the Warrior of Light??
They have names, Warrior of Light and The Onion Knight. Also I believe Onion Knight was confirmed to not be based off the characters from the remake. | |||
realy I don't believe that, the "Onion Knight" in game can change his job for ninja and Sage then he isn't 100% Onion Knight
Everything in the new magazine scans say "Onion Knight" and people who played the DKS demo also confirm that he was listed as "Onion Knight." It is perfectly logical for him to represent the FFIII, as Onion Knight was the original version of Freelancer in that game, the starting class of the original heroes of the game. | |||
FFXI and XII characters confirmed
If you extract the character flashpage named "chara.swf" off the official Dissidia website, and use a Flash Decompiler to analyze these files, you can find the code of the "Wheel" animation of the character page. Within that code, there are frames labelled "ff11" and "ff12". Screenshot of the SWF code:
http://dissidia-france.com/img/Dissidia_proof_of_11_and_12.jpg
I know this sounds sloppy, but please try it if you want, it's true. I think this confirms that FFXI and XII characters were at least planned at some point, even if they end up scrapping them in the final version of the game or something (I think I remember reading that there will only be 10 characters, then again I also read that there would be 13 "worlds"). Thoughts? Please don't flame me. Fire 2 09:03, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
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Yaaaay *opens champagne* FFXII's in! Hope the Guys at squeenix arent braindead to put Vaan but put basch n ashe as main. but FFXI's in too? who's gona b the hero? me? you? | |||
- How about a Create a Character mode doubling as 11's character? Dazuro 00:37, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - {{{time}}} | |||
I'm misinterpreted this too, but the Wikipedia page says that there will be characters from a minimum of ten games, implying that they could include more games. Or is there a different source that says there were only be characters from ten games, no more no less? | |||
Yea, well all we got do is w8 till they release d game n see it from there eh? | |||
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As far as the ten games comes from, the Japanese website states pretty clearly "The one fragile hope left for the world are the 10 warriors led by Cosmos." That same line as part of the "story" of Dissidia has been around since May 2007. As for these new frames, I assume they're not connected to anything or you would have included that, Fire2. But if there is more information, I would really like to hear it. | |||
- They are not connected to anything, just like the frames for Final Fantasy III, IV, V, VI and VII. Fire 2 14:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
FFV baleeted?
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I don't even know why people deny it. ExDeath is on the Dissidia poster which at this point is 100% since it's confirmed everyone we've seen so far. | |||
DKΣ3713 isn't the be all, end all. There's still >5 months before the game's release; and anything can be revealed. | |||
FFV is not so bad to be "baleeted" :( | |||
Pictures
Should we put back the individual pictures because its annoying to write "The whole cast except sephiroth" Oh wait, now cloud of darkness, oh wait, now onion knight, oh wait, now kefka etc. --Zack fair 007
Krystal Tomlin - "When prayers turn to promises, not even fate can stand in our way." TALK - 05:29, 7 August 2008 (UTC) - "Wouldn't wanna be you!" | |||
I agree! Back with the individual pics! | |||
What we have is a good quality picture, and the individual pictures we have right now are mostly low quality scans. People who want to view them individual pictures can go to the character's individual pages. Also, I don't think there's anything particularly annoying with the wording. | |||
All of the character art (except for Jecht and Tidus) were ripped from the official website. | |||
Maybe a Gallery-style section at the bottom of the page for all of the individual pieces? | |||
That's better IMHO. And maybe we'll make a list page of the Dissidia cast. Maybe. | |||
Decemba 2008-ta yay-ya!
Release date finally announced: well, almost. We have finally been given December 2008 for japan, and for sure. it will come out in North America too! | |||
WIKIPEDIA
wikip[edia has confirmed AERITH AS THE HERO OF FINAL FANTASY VII. and Terra Branford, and Cecil Harvey, i will wait for this to clear up, unless confirmed further. | |||
That sucks, i wanted to see Cloud get blasted by Kefka..... Wait this is a good thing, all the villians teaming up and using their strongest attacks on Aeris..... I think i might like this :D When it comes out, Aeris will be the punching back i try out all the other characters on :D | |||
First of all, dont shit on Final Fantasy VII. Second, look at this: | |||
| Title | Hero | Villain |
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| Final Fantasy | Warrior of Light[1][nb 1] | Garland[1] |
| Final Fantasy II | Frioniel[2][nb 2] | Emperor[2][nb 3] |
| Final Fantasy III | Onion Knight[3] | Cloud of Darkness[3] |
| Final Fantasy IV | Cecil Harvey Cite error: Closing </ref> missing for <ref> tag[nb 4]
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| Final Fantasy V | Galuf Doe[4] | Exdeath[4][nb 4] |
| Final Fantasy VI | Terra Branford[4] | Kefka[4] |
| Final Fantasy VII | Aerith GainsboroughCite error: Closing </ref> missing for <ref> tag
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| Final Fantasy VIII | Squall Leonhart[2] | Ultimecia[2] |
| Final Fantasy IX | Zidane Tribal[1] | Kuja[1] |
| Final Fantasy X | Tidus[5] | Jecht[5] |
Before I go ballistic with the news, I must point out that the sources at Wikipedia on Terra's appereance are completely illegible. I don't think we should rush to conclusions. | |||
First of all, the talk page notes that the characters section has been subjected to vandalism recently. Secondly, the reference section is in utter disarray and I hardly believe that any of those links would validate any of this. In short, this isn't true (okay, the Terra part probably is, but not the rest). If you even scroll up on this Talk Page, I've done my best to prove with verifiable research that Cloud's Trading Arts figure at ComicCon was a hint to his inclusion in the game, thus negating Aerith unless better evidence can be provided. | |||
Krystal Tomlin - "When prayers turn to promises, not even fate can stand in our way." TALK - 06:59, 9 August 2008 (UTC) - "Wouldn't wanna be you!" | |||
Please get Cloud in the game...please get Cloud in the game... | |||
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LMFAO that is hilarious this morning it said jesus for final fantasy 5 and hitler for final fantasy 4. | |||
The other day it said Final Fantasy X had John Goodman as the hero and Richard Simmons as the villian, and for VII it said (only for a moment) Aeris' ghost as the hero, and Jenova's head as the villian. | |||
Golbez, Exdeath, Kefka
Can anybody provide pictures or video of any of these three? I can't find anythingJupiterkai 06:15, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
No official images or video have been made public yet. The information regarding them comes from people who saw the latest trailer at the invitation-only DKS event in Japan. | |||
Kefka appears in the new trailer talking with Cloud of Darkness, and he looks awesome. He looks like the Joker, but with that same evil grin as that clown from IT | |||
Contesting the Sides issue
I'd like to contest the theory that there are rigid sides in which characters of the same side refuse to fight each other. Zidane and Firion are both listed as loyalists to Cosmo, yet they're clearly shown fighting against each other.
I'm the one, btw, that came up with the idea of defining each person's conflict in the character page. -ChipNoir/TonberryKing
The heroes/villains fight whoever the player chooses them to fight next. A branching board style map was said to have been shown in the latest trailer and Nomura stated in an interview: This also isn't that same mechanic of action-based fighting in continuous encounters. It's more like "Should I take this guy on next? Nah, maybe I'd better go with this one instead..." | |||
Remaining Characters
Vanishing Star - All that awaits you is a somber morrow TALK - No matter where the winds may blow. ~LOVELESS~ | |||
Who do you want to appear, it's probably going to be: Cecil, Bartz, Terra, and Cloud. I'd prefer: Rydia, Bartz [Since I've never played V], Terra, and Aerith. Just because Rydia's mother was killed and her village destroyed along with many deaths there as well... all because of Golbez / Zeromus. So, she's an obvious choice out of them all besides Cecil, since he's the main character. I choose Aerith just because it would bring in the Darkness vs. Light aspect of the game. Plus, some people may say she's dead and wouldn't be in it. But, isn't just about every villian dead by the time you kill them at the end? Plus, it'd be a grudge match against them, since he killed her. And it'd be nice to see Terra since she obviously has better abilities above people who say Locke should be in it. Seeing her transform into her Esper form would be awesome. :) I never played V, so, Bartz being the main character would be my guess for that. What are everyone else's opinions? | |||
8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - {{{time}}} | |||
Your predictions are most likely spot-on; I wouldn't mind seeing Celes instead of Terra though. Since I've already angered some fanboys, I'll say that they should put in Red XIII instead of Cloud :P | |||
Story?
Is that really what was in the trailers? I don't understand a word of Japanese, so I can't tell. It sounds a little made up to me. Could someone confirm it? 2127 19:30, 16 August 2008 (UTC) Template:ILHI
There was a conversation on the IRC about it awhile ago, and I thought it was reverted, but I guess it wasn't. I think it should go. | |||
Bit about Onion Knight and Ingus
Hi, I was wondering if it would be alright if we got rid of the bit about Onion Knight possibly being Ingus. A user on Gamefaqs posted this scan -> [1] , roughly translated he states that Onion Knight's design is a mix of all three Onion Knights (including Luneth). I honestly can not read what it says, but from the illustration it appears as though he is telling the truth. I was just wondering if others could weigh in on this subject. --Oranejo 22:38, 25 August 2008 (UTC)
Go ahead, that was jsut some annon fan-wank anyway. | |||
Neat, a three-way fusion! (T.J. Fuller, Jr. | TJF588) 70.191.169.69 09:07, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
Title Format
The title doesn't use those hyphens. It should read DISSIDIA FINAL FANTASY (though I know ALL-CAPS isn't preferred among the Wikis). (T.J. Fuller, Jr. | TJF588) 70.191.169.69 09:10, 31 August 2008 (UTC)
RE: the edit war
What's so fucking hard about keeping Terra and Celes in there? It's obviously one of the two. They're the only females seen working for the Empire, and both of them were allies-turned-enemies of Kefka's, so his referring to them as "friends" would make sense. There's already enough debate over which one is the true main character, so there's no way we could name only one.. but saying "whose identity is unknown" is fucking stupid. It's one or the other. Guaranteed. End of discussion. So why not just fucking SAY so? Take this idiotic bickering somewhere productive, why don't you? Surely there are other topics on which there's actual debate to be had. This is ridiculous. | |||
It could be Relm. Ever think of that? =) | |||
Actually, I'd like that. Paintbrush for a weapon instead of LOL ANOTHER SWORD would be nice, and Sketch has potential to be an interesting mechanic. Unfortunately, there's no fucking way Kefka means anyone other than one of those two, and the current wording is completely inaccurate and stupid. Unless it changed back to something rational before I read it, anyway, in which case disregard this. | |||
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Games represented
I know it was a debated topic before, but I've not seen this point brought up. The trailer on this very wiki has a translation which, IIRC, said something to the effect of "the world has been created twelve times, and is on the verge of a thirteenth". If you ask me--and dammit, you did ask me, because I said so--that makes it pretty clear that FF1-12 will all be represented somehow, and perhaps Lightning will even have a little cameo. It's a bit too speculative to add to the article, but.. thoughts? Personally, I reckon it'll have some sort of customizable character for 11, no villain for 13 to spare story spoilers (since I believe this comes first), and that the non-numbered sidegames will get no mention. | |||
8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - {{{time}}} | |||
Personally, I think that just because the game mentions that amount of main-numbered Final Fantasies created doesn't mean they will include characters from each game. If they do decide to include XI-XIII, it's curious how they have hidden the last entries in the compilation in order to reveal them last. If they do even include those characters, I think it would only be as secret characters and not as storyline characters. Seeing Lightning come out in Dissidia before XIII.... meh... | |||
Luso came out in WotL before TA2, did he not? | |||
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8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - {{{time}}} | |||
True...... still, TA2 isn't one of the popular FFs, and I doubt anyone cared that he came out in WotL. To reveal many aspects of a next-gen character in a game that is the first of its kind would be different, I think. | |||
Fair enough. Besides, assuming we don't get Zack instead, Cloud's face is identical to hers anyway, so that's close enough. >_> | |||
Protection
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Because some fucking idiot kept on editing it after I told you all to stop. Now I'm giving out tests. Enjoy. | |||
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Title
"As the game's title implies, the story revolves around the conflict that each of the paired characters has that makes them unique." What the heck is that referring to? Dissidia seems to be a nonexistant word outside of this game--neither Wikipedia nor Dictionary.com have anything on it. So how does the title imply anything? | |||
Someone on GFaqs once posted what the hell it meant. The word is derived from a musical term, and that term means something like "conflicting harmonies". Yeah, I don't remember too well, but if someone could find the explanation, that'd be dandy. | |||
The term is probably "Dissonance". But that still doesn't imply what the page says it does. | |||
The people on GFaqs say it is Latin for conflict. It seems to make sense, since every character in the game has had a conflict with another person who is also present in the game. Also the two gods are a conflict of good and evil.(I think) Here is a link of fact that the people of the forum have come up with. [2] | |||
Ego non scio verbum "dissidia". Latina lingua non est. Gamefaqs is no reliable source on linguistic matters. The fact that the word doesn't show up in any of the dictionaries I've consulted makes me think it's actually an invented word, as Diablo suggested. | |||
It could make sense, since not only the title, but the word Dissidia was trademarked by Square. | |||
Playable characters
As far as I know, the policy here is that the first playable appearance of a character gets the infobox (Luca, Al-Cid, etc). But where does this leave us with Dissidia? I highly doubt we'll ever get any other playable Cloud of Darknesses or Garlands, but at the same time, it's a spinoff and has such a vastly different style (no sprites or portraits thus far, etc) that it would seem out of place to put just about every villain as their Dissidia art. But at the same time, this is their first playable appearance. What do we do? | |||
New trailer
Hello,i'm an italian and i like very much this wikia. It can be possible add a new trailer(4/9/08) of Dissidia? This is the link:http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=CSk4eVbrGHI
Dissidia's rosters are finally complete...
At long last, we finally have the Heroes and Villains that will be representing their respective games in Dissidia -Final Fantasy-.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/694377/DissidiaHeroRoster.jpg - The Heroes.
http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q29/694377/DissidiaVillains.jpg - The Villains.
...Well...???
Are these confirmed or educated guesses? | |||
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not confirmed yet, I don't see cloud, where are his big sword then?? and bartz I don't know what think about him
Im sure Cloud put his sword away for that moment, he has to take a break when lifting that thing. I can see Terra in there (please dont morph her into one of these) i dont see Bartz in there (as if i wanted to), and i see DK Cecil (he should be able to be either Dark Knight or Paladin like Nightmare in Soul Calibur) As for the villians, its obvious who they are, and its in order from 2-10 (with the exception of Garland leading them in the middle) | |||
....Cloud without his sword in that moment ajajajaja, I have the trailer in hD in that time I believe see 2 woman onu look like terra (or maybe celes), but the other look like..... Tifa?
I can't see anything that screams 'Terra' about that silhouette--she and Celes have nearly identical gloves in their CGI forms and some art, and no other details are clearly visible. Beyond that, the FF6 Ultimania thing (see Kefka talk page for source) indicates that he treasures Celes as something to play carefully with--he even refers to her as a doll, and also like a family member. Terra, on the other hand, he fears and has no such attachment to. Thus, I think Kefka's dialogue points towards Celes being the heroine pick. | |||
With Terra, it's more about her cape in that shot than anything else. If you watch it in "pseudo-slowmo" by rapidly pausing the trailer, you can see that her cape is white/cream with red splotches along the bottom. A similar design is seen in this image of Terra, which was the first thing I thought of when I heard about her suspected appearance in the trailer (since Amano Art weighs in far heavier than CG for Dissidia). And when you take into account this lightened screenshot of 4:42, her identity seems pretty solid. Note that on the other side we have Onion Knight, clearly the one standing beside the cloaked woman in the establishment shot. I think that is sufficient evidence based on the trailer itself for the woman being Terra, but please feel free to debate if you find contradictory evidence within the material. (I mean, there are a few frames at 1:59 where you can spot the cloaked woman in the background, but due to distance her cream cape appears as a white spot.) | |||
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