Um...have you forgotten about Faeth and 8bit? Chances are, we are not getting another new admin for awhile. We'll be fine.
I really don't think you should be worrying about it. We're fine as we are now, Mindy's leaving isn't going to suddenly debilitate the wiki...
I have to admit i am getting abit worried BUT unless all admins decide to go we should be fine.
Thank god, I've got a big enough headache as it it!
ILHI was discouraging the beating of dead horses, not the pointing out of problems. But I better shut up since I'm not as experienced nor as valuable as I should be in order to know better.
Fae, I'm sure he didin't mean it as any sort of insult, he ment it in the sense that these admins that are leaving were here round-about when the wiki was just getting started.
Ex, you probably don't mean it that way, but what you are saying is pretty offensive to 8Bit and Faethin. Just because they haven't had Sysop rights for long does not mean they are inexperenced users, as it's not like they've been sitting on their hands going "duuuuuur <_>" for the entire time before becoming sysops. Both have been extremely active users and have each amassed for +1½ years worth of experience concerning how the FFWiki has been managed, how policies and rules have been changed, and the other workings of the FFWiki. It's not like they first start gaining experience in the workings of the wiki by the time they become sysops. It usually starts the moment you become an active member of the community.But just for the fun of it, and out of personal curiousity, could you mention one of these areas where they are 'lacking' according to you..? ^^
Okay, I have had it with these mix ups. So how about this?
1. They are experienced users, but have not been admins for long. Therefore they lack experience at BEING ADMINS. My apologies if I did not make that one clear.
2. We have lost two highly valuable users in the last two months. I just started the thread to see if we can do something about it.
3. And finally, they may be good. But Bluer and MMIL where better, at least from my standpoint. Don't get me wrong, with enough time, they will likely hit his level at some point. But for now they just are not on the same level. That's all I said.
that's all I am saying. If this offends someone, I am sorry. If that giant chunk of paragraph I wrote whist on a caffeine high seems offensive, please refer to the three items above for a boiled down version. And I know I said I would stop posting on this thread, so please do not bring that up.
I don't see what you are actually proposing in this, Exdeath64. Other than pointing out the obvious, you seem to be emphasizing the two departed, so-called "highly valuable" administrators. What is the problem with having two so-called "inexperienced administrators"? I see them as perfect testing grounds: my "boldness" can be used to nurture their administrative capabilities. I am past all that vandal news blurb, but my point in that thread still stands: "having less or more administrators don't really mean anything if they're not online". Losing one administrator isn't actually the problem; it's counting for any existing users to be online - but that isn't easily remediable so I'll let that slide. Really, what is your proposal, Exdeath64? Write an e-mail and ask the two "departed" administrators to return? Send flowers? Send free action figures? Send free copies of FFX3?TLDR version: Offline administrators are more of a problem than one less administrator >:3
Pointless arguements like this are why I'm leaving. 8-Bit and Faethin are valuable members of the community and are going to handle things just fine. There were too many admins for a while there anyway (considering we used to get by on a Sysop and three admins); if anything this makes it more manageable for those that remain. This will be my last non-mainspace/userpage edit, by the way. Laters everyone, it was nice getting to know (most of) you.