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Probably next month, the admin team will go through and clean up walkthroughs which have been left abandoned for more than a year, as we do periodically. As per Help:Walkthroughs, users will be notified and have a week to reclaim their dead walkthroughs, or move them to userspace.

In addition, I would like to propose that the wiki make guidelines with regards to the content of walkthroughs, something like, walkthroughs may be moved to userspace (or deleted?) if the walkthrough's humor is particularly nasty or offensive. Most such walkthroughs never end up getting finished and thus are killed in the unfinished walkthrough purges, but occasionally one will make it through: Walkthrough:Final Fantasy VIII/Super Sephiroth Part 6 is an example. Cat (meowhunt) 18:35, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

I support the purge, and agree with introducing a standard: namely, anything blatantly offensive or otherwise not helpful to readers shouldn't be on the wiki. The walkthrough namespace provides editors a platform to share their user-written walkthroughs for which they can inject some personality, but it goes too far.

I also think it may be worth changing the rules so that a walkthrough has to start in userspace, and can only be moved to Walkthrough namespace once finished. That would reduce the purges that are necessary, and also means we can assess before something goes live whether it meets the standard.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 23:15, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

So this is mostly going to be a rephrase of stuff I posted on Discord earlier.
First of all, the problem of low quality/rule breaking walkthroughs. We have been really bad at actually making sure content in the walkthrough space doesn't break any rules. We've only really cared if the walkthroughs are done or not and that creates a few... problems. Honestly I think a one-off rules compliance purge should take care of it, and while we will need to keep a closer eye in the future, most users don't write like bad teenage BH knockoffs any more so it should be mostly clear from there.
As for the starting in userspace possibility, I agree with starting in userspace, but I think we should allow walkthroughs to be moved to walkthrough space before completion if the user asks and has been pretty good about updating in a timely manner. Waiting for all walkthroughs to be done means there's little, if any, activity in the namespace itself, which I don't think is healthy for it.
I would like to have other ways to maybe draw activity back to the walkthrough space, but, well, I can't really think of much outside of outright paying people, which seems like a very hard thing to set up and get staff to agree to, seeing as we don't get paid for our editing or pontificating over a lack of activity in what used to be one of our most active features :P -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 11:14, March 2, 2020 (UTC)
ETA: BTW, here's my master list from the last purge if you want to know which ones are already cleared and which ones might need looking at. 11:18, March 2, 2020 (UTC)
Yeah, I guess this is more a problem of enforcement than of making new rules -- I can't imagine a user writing that FFVIII walkthrough linked above in 2020, and if someone did there would probably be an overwhelming majority in favor of just deleting it for violating some code of conduct or another.
The best way to bring people back to walkthroughspace is probably by leading by example. I believe Hexed and BlueHighwind have both recently expressed interest in writing new walkthroughs on Discord; if that actually happened it would probably restore interest in walkthroughspace. Once that trend started, we could advertise the walkthroughs on Twitter and other social media as well. Cat (meowhunt) 00:00, March 3, 2020 (UTC)

Several months late, I have a kill list. Along the way I found lots of walkthroughs that have some pretty nasty jokes which as a community we may wish to disavow, but that don't cut into the actual content of the walkthrough. It was suggested in the admin chat that I and others go through and sanitize them, but I also recognize that this may be controversial; please weigh in with feedback. Cat (meowhunt) 23:09, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

I think that's the only logical solution in a situation such as this, unless you guys want to do the generic disclaimer on a template like so:

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Personally, I don't think editing them to remove the "product of the times" jokes is morally wrong or controversial, as many of the users who made those walkthroughs have already moved away from the wiki tbh. Honestly, once the walkthroughs are on the wiki and the administration has a problem with the content in it, they're open to be deleted or changed by the staff to fit with the standards like any other content. That's just my two cents though. --Miphares (talk) 23:23, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

Completing ok with sanitizing old walkthroughs... It's not really worth deleting an entire walkthrough for the sake of a couple stupid jokes written ten years ago.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 23:25, June 4, 2020 (UTC)

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