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Some Color Mage / Talk Contribs / / 01:56, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
  • Final Fantasy III and Final Fantasy IV will be considered two games each, their 1990/1991 2D originals and their 2006/2007 3D remakes.
  • Not much more needs to be done to finish this split for FFIV, but FFIII coverage will need some restructuring.
  • We haven't considered if the 3D version of The After Years needs to be split from the 2D version yet, if so, it will be done after III/IV.

With the upcoming release of the Pixel Remaster series, this will create a situation where there are platforms where there are multiple distinct versions of FFIII and FFIV available on the same platform at once. (There are technically multiple versions of FFVII and FFVIII on PC, but these aren't significantly different to consider as different games, while FFIII and FFIV's DS remakes significantly altered gameplay, to the degree on pages that cover them we often need to discuss them as separate entities) As such, we're going to need to adjust how these games are covered in order to reduce ambiguity.

This is a change that's been in the works for a while, large amounts of FFIV's gameplay pages are already split into different pages for 2D versions and 3D versions. It's just been accelerated now with these new upcoming releases. We will be looking over to see what else needs to be split for FFIV, but for the most part it's already done. FFIII's coverage, however, still consolidates all the 2D and 3D information onto the same page for gameplay elements, so it will need some significant work done.

This also doesn't apply to every page, for the most part character/story/location pages can be left alone. There may be some splits needed there but we'll handle that on a case by case basis.

I'm aware there is also a 3D version of The After Years available. To put it simply, most of the staff aren't aware of if the game is so different from the 2D version that it requires a split. A cursory glance indicates to me that for the most part the 3D version did not change things so much as remove some things entirely while leaving the rest of the game alone, in which case it shouldn't need a split. In any case, it's not getting a Pixel Remaster, so looking at that is lower priority.

This shouldn't take us too long, the Pixel Remasters start getting released next month, but they're being released separately, so odds are we should be done before the Pixel Remaster of FFIII is out. (ETA: Welp, shows what I know, we've got until basically the end of July before III comes out)

Maybe the character gameplay pages should be differentiated? I understand some abilities work differently, and the 3D has an augment system. Any differences in stats and equipment? Maybe the Rosa page can be moved to remove "Joanna" finally as well.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 13:08, 30 June 2021 (UTC)

Yes, they need to be split per-game too (i.e. one for After Years, one for Interlude also). Rosa will be moved too, we were hoping to delete the /Gallery pages first, but that'll probably take a while still.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 17:49, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
Rosa name issue aside, I consider the character gameplay pages to be more "gameplay" than "character". Those will be split for the same reason we don't put VII and VIIR character gameplay on the same page. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 19:29, 30 June 2021 (UTC)
if I remember correctly, Cecil's "Darkness" was adapted into "Souleater" and then made a temporary buff. A lot of stats were altered just to fit the new mechanics, though some oddities of equipment in IV remain. Swordzmanp236 (talk) 19:37, 30 June 2021 (UTC)