Comrade Faethin and I have noticed the debate over using certain epithets to name characters on our pages, such as the now
I have a few suggestions as to how we may sort this out, revolving around sorting names by types of titles.
I am happy to see a decision. Before ILHI and I shout, "Take it to the MoS!" I would request that #4's "more often than not" be a phrase at least closer to "always." My opinion is that we need the rules to be as close to Boolean (all or nought) as possible.
...This may be a bit crazy, but how about...Leave Judge Gabranth as he normally is and make a new article about "Noah fon Ronsenburg" from before he was known as Judge Gabranth. This is like Wikipedia having seperate articles for Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader.
But the Noah article would be very, very, short. Keep it as it is.
I am not sure about XII Judges using their surnames in their titles. Noah fon Ronsenburg picked "Gabranth" because it was his mother's maiden name and he wished to leave his past behind. This is kind of a surname.... as for Zargabaath, Drace, and the others, I don't know. Ultimania anyone?
@ILHI: I don't understand your analogy between Golbez and Gabranth. If we remove "Judge" and leave "Gabranth", his real name is still hidden. We have nothing to move Golbez to but "Theodor Harvey", because he has not been given a title such as "Dark Chancellor Golbez".
I actually kind of like the idea of taking away Loire and Kramer from Raine and Edea. This means Garnet gets to keep her title and there won't be any musings about moving her to Dagger :DBack on the titling issue and Rule #4: When some titles are used to indicate an honorable position, superiors, inferiors, and enemies may choose if they wish to sue the title or not. Brahne does not bother calling her most famous knight "General Beatrix", but lower soldiers do, and the protagonists somewhat on and off.
I would be in favor of removing the titles as well. For the Judge issue, remove the title, as I recall in XII Gabranth is usually called just "Gabranth". But if we have last names, they should be kept, like Edea and Raine. Gabranth and Golbez are different because they are most often referred to by their aliases, in-game that is.
I agree as well with the removal of all titles, but with the keeping of all surnames and "actual" names. I think Golbez should be under Theodore Harvey.
EDIT CONFLICTER GETS TO DIE NOW: Drake, the Gabranth issue is only in his battle name. And that's probably more of a space issue than anything else.As for Judge names, I have no clue where 8bit thought up that maiden name story. If there even is any naming pattern behind Judge names, it doesn't matter because it was never mentioned in FFXII. This isn't a plot hole, this is just a missing detail.