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^I'd prefer self-nomination because it shows willingness. I don't what people have against it other than "oh, aren't they all up themselves". Last time (or one of the other times) I wanted to have it you so could only nominate yourself, but that didn't pass through. Because some people who want to be nominated might not nominate themselves (which is pointless because some people who might want to be nominated might not be nominated by someone else!).

Anyway, I honestly don't know why we wouldn't promote any of the mods up right now. Which is why I am struggling throwing my support anyway. The tools a mod gets are nothing so dangerous. They can't send an article into oblivion, they can just move it somewhere else-- something easily reverted.

I trust all the users here to use the tools wisely. And that's all I expect. These tools exist to help the wiki, so there's no point in limiting the numbers because then you are limiting additional help to the wiki. JBed (talk) 14:11, July 10, 2013 (UTC)


Tia (Mod)

  • Support – Tia is an active contributor, fills up missing sections of articles, reverts vandalism and incorrect changes, (from what I saw from my rare IRC visits) is a frequent IRC member, and cleans up articles quite a lot. Tia is a polite person with seemingly lots of patience which may actually cause raise in number of members for FFWiki, who in time will benefit the Wiki with contributing according to our rules. And a bit silly argument: we could use of more girls in the Staff Room (for mods we have only Keltie, I'm pretty sure the rest of mods are guys). ;P —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 20:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Has a bit of a short temper, but is pretty hard-working (she's around more than every staff member bar maybe five, because we all suck -- including me) and seeing as she stalks RC like a hawk stalks its prey, where the prey are right out there in front of the hawk but the hawk gets all the prey because all the other hawks don't give a damn... or something like that. Whatever. Guess my point is that even if she doesn't use the other tools much (and she probably will) she'll get a lot of use out of rollback. C A T U S E 20:54, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - as per Cat. Should also be noted that Tia is already one of the runners of both the Wiki's Twitter and Facebook pages, and pretty good at it, so we know she is incredibly community friendly. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment- I feel like such an idiot for promoting myself, but let's not forget I've also updated the FA since May, if that means anything significant ^_^ Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 23:41, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Took the initiative to reconstruct and help with overseeing the FA, as well as a host of other social features. 8bit 00:58, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Excellent contributions to the publicity side of the wiki, as well as the FA. — YuanSalut 01:04, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Knows what she's doing, has made many worthy contributions. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Is involved with more than just mainspace (like the Facebook/Twitter pages) and has done enough to earn this position. SidVI 09:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Lovely person who I know isn't at all intimidating towards newbies. Her help with FB and Twitter doesn't go unnoticed either. Think of it as a Mod for the future... one who looks towards new directions (aka contributes to Facebook, Twitter, IRC etc...). COOLAWITS ~TALK | YFC | XVI | DQFF~ 09:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - She's very competent and has a nice attitude, two qualities that really shine as a mod. --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Pretty much what the majority have already posted. From the little interaction I had with her, she's pretty friendly and nice. She also contributes a lot too, and pretty active towards the wiki and stuff that revolves around the wiki. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - She is already staff if she maintains the social media accounts. We need her on the staff page. :)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 11:45, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - per above. --Shockstorm (talk) 01:43, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Fenrir (Mod)

  • Support – With the contributions to various Final Fantasy titles with varying content (FFVI: dummied content,rages, lores, FFXII: enemy weapons, and quite a lot of Legend titles). Tia mentioned in the "Discussion" section that Fenrir seems to have problems with English, but I don't see flaws with that.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 20:39, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support- Kaimi sweet, I don't see it as a flaw, per se, I just worry what it would look like chasing a moderator to edit his edits to make more grammatical sense. That aside, Fenrir knows much we don't, has added a mountain of information regarding dummied content and Dimensions(?) amongst much more I couldn't name, and has had a hand in image uploading as well. He's also easy to talk to and is a willing assistant when needed. Support, no doubt :) Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 20:42, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - A good contributor who works hard and has a lot of knowledge to add to the wiki, and already has added much. Spelling and grammar are a minor concern, even I do it more often than I'd care to admit. Drake Clawfang (talk) 21:07, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Has been incredibly helpful and knows a lot of arcane stuff that we wouldn't otherwise have on the wiki. Most deserved promotion here IMO. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:30, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Does Fenrir even know about this? He hasn't posted in here at all. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 01:09, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
    • He's been left a message so he'll drop by sometime tomorrow, likely. Drake Clawfang (talk) 03:57, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Since he uploads many image files and has a great deal of knowledge that almost nobody has, rollback and the ability to change file names will benefit him greatly. SidVI 09:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Don't know what to say here honestly, I've been satisfied and happy as a regular editor. A mod or an account that is label as a mod is an account that can do some editing that regular editors cannot do. If the wiki or wikian(s) think that me having the account label as a mod will be beneficial, I'll put it to good use. If not, no hurt feelings. At the end of the day, I will still do what I have always been doing, continue to contribute and help the wiki regardless of being a mod or not. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - An editor who has written up entire games' worth of content from the ground up. At the very least acknowledge him, but I'm fine with modship as well. C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
    • Comment - I can't take all the credit, some articles already existed or someone forgot to delete them way before, etc. If my memory serves me right, the FFLII weapon article already existed, both FFLIII weapons and armor articles existed as well, and there were a few others to. Fenrir9 (talk) 19:58, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Kaimi (Mod)

  • Support - Though I may be a bit biased (if you know me... you'll know why (but then I guess no-one does know me :P)), Kaimi has made significant contributions in a relatively short space of time. I also always notice an email letting me know about gnoming changes to an article that are often made by him. Seems like a worthy candidate... but I guess you could say the same about everyone! COOLAWITS ~TALK | YFC | XVI | DQFF~ 09:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment – To add to my proposal, my devotion to Final Fantasy series led to creation of Final Fantasy Fandom Wiki which is still small (after 2,5 years of existence), but steadily grows.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 14:14, July 10, 2013 (UTC)

Drake (Admin)

  • Support- Drake is always around, always willing to extend a helping hand, and has years of Wiki knowledge behind him. I feel in the past his temper may have held him back from being a good candidate (coupled with the fact he didn't actually want to be an admin anyway), but I think he's become much more easy to interact with, which is great, because as it stands, he knows and does more than enough to count as the ideal candidate. If this is something you want now, Drake, you'd be perfect. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 20:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Adding on to everything Tia said, he goes on a lot of image replacing sprees; being able to delete images himself means less work for both him and the admin who's cleaning out the AfSD. C A T U S E 20:54, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support – as I have every time previously. The guy is one of our most extensive workers on the entire damn wiki -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 21:19, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - There is a mild hesitance because I still dislike how he doesn't use the dup template (it's a rule dammit!), sure, he's active and contributes to discussions. Top class. JBed (talk) 21:40, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Hard-working, dedicated, but also entirely the wrong kind of personality you'd want at the top. No offense intended, of course. But DrakeyC is not a conflict-resolver, he isn't patient, he doesn't work well with adversity, and he's not a leader. --BlueHighwind 21:59, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Admin tools would be very useful here, both for him and the wiki in general. The fact that he expressed doubts in the past about him being promoted to admin is IMO a plus, because it shows a willingness for self-reflection. There's also the whole thing about "people who really desire power are the least qualified to have it" and such. If the images he nominated for deletion were questionable I would have some doubts, but that hasn't been the case. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:41, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Drake's contributions to the wiki are impressive in terms of their scope and consistency over such a long time period. He's aware of his weaknesses and has continued to improve the wiki despite being passed over many times in the past, which I think shows his dedication. 8bit 00:58, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Highest editcount (Is he still?) has to mean something. Dedication, defintely. He's always around, on IRC, easy to get in touch with, knows how to do things. Sure, he gets a little... Antagonistic at times, but the positives outweigh the negatives - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
    • Comment - AFAIK, he's still got the highest edit count, but only because JBed's contributions are split between three accounts and a load of IPs. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 13:09, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Since he's been around for so long and has contributed so much in many different areas, Drake deserves it, and has deserved it for a long while. SidVI 09:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - When I first came here, I mistook him for an admin. I've been here for 2 years and a bit and he still isn't. Long overdue. User:R8.50Mango/Sig2 17:01, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - The guy has done more than enough. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 18:45, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I hate the guy sometimes but I can't argue that he isn't one of the best editors we've got. I'm kind of surprised this hasn't happened already. --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - At one point, Drake was hard to interact with? Well if this is true, the Drake I've been interacting with this past 2 years (give or take) is vastly different from the old Drake. Drake contributes a lot, and I mean a lot. He's very knowledgeable, wiki wise and FF wise. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral - I'd love to support Drake, because he has done so much for the wiki and is always looking for new ways to continue contributing. I have no doubt that he will put admin tools to good use. However, the incidents where he loses his temper and his general shortness with users he considers to be idiots makes me hesitate. He has been improving - this is why this is neutral rather than oppose - and I would welcome him as an admin if others disagree with me, but the occurrences are still ongoing, and I cannot support him unreservedly. — YuanSalut 12:14, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Provided his continued good behavior and levelheadedness, I think Drake has come around. He certainly has the tenure and history to qualify. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 05:28, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

JBed (Admin)

  • Support – Simply put, JBed is our 'little' CSS master and is helpful a lot when it comes to CSS. On a side note: from what I've been reading on FFWiki, JBed would like to 'enforce' some rule regarding naming files, and the position of an admin would help him in moving files: I just wonder how would the naming template look like.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 20:47, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • CommentTentative support - As an editor, JBed is basically flawless. He writes pages, does maintanence, knows everything there is to know as far as policy and code goes. He puts the rest of us to shame -- and honestly, he leads the wiki... but doesn't hold any position at all. But he's said several times, on the wiki and in the IRC, that he doesn't really want to be here. So this is really up to him: if he thinks that being an admin forces him to stay here and he really doesn't want to, then this is neutral leaning on oppose. Otherwise, strong support.He insists (in IRC) that he doesn't feel like he's trapped here anymore (unless I'm misinterpreting him), and he knows himself better than I do. C A T U S E 20:54, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • Comment - I feel much as Cat does, with the exception of how this influences my vote. As said in my original post atop this page, I fully support JBed as Mod, the rights would do him well. However, if he is of the mindset he does not want to be here or does not want to be tied to this place as an obligation, this is concerning. I also think that while he is an excellent user in editing, when it comes to discussing matters with him, his attitude is often obstructive. Thus I would support JBed for Mod, but would not support him for Admin. Drake Clawfang (talk) 21:06, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral- I feel that JBed is just fine as a designer at the moment. I feel it's a bit unfair for him to have the opportunity to jump straight from regular user to admin without moderator in between, but for whatever reason he doesn't want the middleground. The way he speaks to people, while not perfect in terms of attitude, is still a huge step-up from what ILHI was like, and the way he addresses his points is unique, first-rate and it's impossible to not understand him, if you can get past the walls of text. While I heavily admire his devotion to the Wiki and his excellent skills in CSS and knowing just what we need, I feel that given the power of admin, the level of devotion he has may mean we end up with more enforcement and change than we may be comfortable with. As I can see good and bad points, I'm going to sit on the fence for this one, but I thought my opinion should be shared. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 21:14, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral – I think many of us are a little unsettled by the idea of JBed being an admin, even though it's not necessarily easy to justify the hesitation. But I agree with Cat and Drake in that I would certainly support him being "reinstated" as a mod. Moving files appears to be a large point in Kaimi's support, but mods are also capable of suppressing redirects -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 21:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I consistently work for the wiki, knows my way around, am here often, and am willing to put in the effort. Being able to block bad-faith editors on-sight will be very useful. And I work closely with the MoS, even more so recently, so being able to edit that page will be useful. I also know how to handle good and bad faith editors, and would be fair in how I handle bans and protections to cause the least disruption. I am already someone people go too often, and while rights mean nothing in terms of value of opinion, it does in terms of responsibility and how one may be viewed so it is fairly good to have a fair hierarchy. Some may disagree, so it's a good that's just a cherry-on-top reason. JBed (talk) 21:41, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - As I said above, JBed is often very opinionated, and his tendency to not accept alternative viewpoints and post walls of text explaining why he holds his opinions are not conductive to good discussion, and giving him Admin rights to enforce his opinions are concerning. Coupled with his inability or refusal to explain on the IRC why Adminship is to important to him, his above display of egotism that reflect many previous staff discussions when he has said he is the most qualified candidate for Adminship over other valid nominees, and his inability or refusal to work on these personality flaws, I do not feel he has the personality type or behavior preferred for an Admin. Contrary to whatever claims he may make, he more often proves than disproves that he is still ILHI behind the screen. Drake Clawfang (talk) 22:02, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • Neutral - After a long talk with JBed on the IRC, I withdraw my opposition. I still have concerns over the additional weight being Admin would do for discussions involving him, and his mindset towards why he edits. But he has made fair statements to explain why Admin rights exclusive to that position would be of benefit to his editing habits. I am not comfortable with support still, but I will not oppose, and if he is promoted on the votes of others, congratulations to him.
  • Neutral - JBed might actually be the wrong kind of person to give power to do. He's more dedicated than any sane human being could ever be, and that's commendable. JBed will be editing this wiki when we're all dead and gone. He also seems to be the guy who most knows how to get things done. However, give him adminship would essentially surrender all policy to him, though at this point I wonder if it isn't a bad idea to just give it to him... --BlueHighwind 22:05, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Weak Support - I'll be honest, I hold the same apprehensions a lot of other users do. However, aside from the ACP incident, it's hard to point to any example that actually proves our concerns about him. It feels like we're making a big fuss over nothing. And he is the best editor on the wiki, bar none. At the very least, he should be given his old rights back. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 03:46, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Of the nominates it is the one I know the most. Pretty sure he would do a good job. --BGMaxie (talk) 04:31, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral - You can't argue the man doesn't put his all into what he does here. Having said that, I'm fine with him in his current position of designer and he's done a good job with that, but I feel he should spend some time as mod before making the leap up to admin. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 18:45, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Same with Drake, this guy is unarguably competent. And I haven't had any problems with him before, so I have no reason not to support him. --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral - I won't lie, I'm having a hard time deciding here. He's competent in what he does for the wiki, no question about it. He has the ability/knowledge to extract information from games, etc. I don't know much about JBed to come to a conclusion for making him an admin. Nevertheless, my Neutral would be change to Support if this were for him getting a mod account. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - It's about history, and being too bogged down in it. I have previously opposed JBed's nominations for two reasons: a) obsession with the wiki to the degree that it "consumes" him and b) his tendency to disregard the opinions of other users. He assures us that a) is no longer a problem, and given the amount of work he puts into the wiki, I doubt admin rights will change that. With b) - history. We are all so used to thinking of JBed as ILHI, as a user who wall-of-texts and is difficult to work with, but is this really true now? Reflecting on his recent behaviour and comparing it to how he was previously, I see a definite improvement. There really are very few incidents of misconduct I can point to within the last year or so. Thus, I will support him. — YuanSalut 12:14, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Reject - JBed is a frequent willful dissident and ill tempered. He remains the only user who I have received repeated requests to have banned in perpetuity, and I would have to agree he is not someone I would want seemingly representing us. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 05:28, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Cat (Admin)

  • Support – I've seen him do enough work on the wiki that would have benefitted from him having access to the admin tools to know that he'd make good use of them -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 21:22, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support- While I know Cat is apprehensive about it and claims he isn't around much anymore, I'd love to see him rise up the ranks as he definitely has the skills and the pleasant interaction that would make him a really approachable admin. Also, given the length of time he has been here, it would also be very impressive to see him do so incredibly well in such a short space of time. If you feel up to it at any point, Cat, I'd support you in it. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 21:30, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Hells to the yeah. Despite his self-criticism, continues to work for the wiki, tries to contribute everywhere, and helps pull the wiki forward. JBed (talk) 21:43, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I can't really say more than SN has. Cat is one of our best staffers. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - deserving and knowledgeable, particularly regarding coding. --Shockstorm (talk) 00:05, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - he does the duties of a staff member already, and very well at that. — YuanSalut 01:04, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Of course. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I can't really say more than what has been said already. He deserves it. SidVI 09:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - He edits everywhere and even tried to help me out by voting in my arenas despite the fact they were both essentially damned from the start. Niceness - check. Helpfulness - check. Editing - check. COOLAWITS ~TALK | YFC | XVI | DQFF~ 09:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Oh definitely. He's awesome, useful, and knows about some of the lesser known parts of the FF universe - we need that. And how many other websites can claim to have a cactus as an admin? --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Are you telling me that Catuse has never been an admin? Well, I've always though he always had been an admin in the first place. Well, he's sure has the personality and qualities for it. He's also a good contributor for the wiki and welcomes newcomers to the wiki. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - I brought this up the IRC already, but should probably mention here that unless I'm going to be making hundreds of admin edits (deleting 250+ unwanted images, for example -- in which case I'll wait for Scathe to go on IRC and give Intangir Bot a sysop flag) I'll probably do all admin work, even automated admin work, as Catuse167, unless everyone's fine with hidden deletions or something C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

DSS (Admin)

  • Support - No one yet? Well, I'll just put this here... Around often, got the know-how. - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support- I get on with DSS great, and he has the ideal temperament and knowledge to have additional rights as admin. It would be nice to see him here a little more, though he does pop up on IRC a fair bit. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 08:41, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral – I do have some concerns about DSS's interaction with other users at times; I have heard at least a couple of people express an impression that he has some kind of 'issue' with them, and while he and I myself are not exactly enemies, he certainly appeared to think at one point that I have, and I quote, "some shit against [him]." I certainly don't dispute his experience and know-how, but I perhaps query whether he would bring enough unique advantage as an admin to overcome the aforementioned.
    As for being around on IRC, I haven't actually seen him on the main channel for quite some time, though of course it is possible I'm just missing him. He's generally pretty engaged when he is on, though -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 11:24, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - DSS hasn't been as active within mainspace recently, as he admitted. And while I respect the work he does and has done, the other people on the list have the bonus of having done the same but being more active. I see DSS on IRC only infrequently, although that could be partially due to timezones (only partially though, he's not on as frequently as the others --not that this really matters). JBed (talk) 13:56, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - He gets on everyone's nerves sometimes, but who doesn't? I can also testify that he's on a lot more often than you guys think; he just isn't always on #wikia-ff. Can't really blame him for that. Anyway, he knows a lot about some obscure parts of the series, is dedicated, and knows his way around a policy, so no reason for him not to be here to me. --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
    • Comment – While there is no requirement that admins be on IRC particularly frequently at all, if they are on IRC, it doesn't seem unreasonable to ask that they also be on the wiki's channel. We know he's online more than he appears to be, but it's hard to make use of that presence when we can't see him -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 12:19, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - I'm officially withdrawing my nomination for now. It's clear to me my actions and inactivity have placed me into a category of certain irrelevance; when people cannot bring themselves to vote either for or against me for a certain amount of time, that action speaks a lot louder than words. It's clear to me I have work to do before anyone would view me as a serious candidate. Thank you to those who voted for me, or left any criticism at all. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 01:56, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

SCM (Admin)

  • Comment - I don't expect this to work, but there is no harm in throwing my hat in, so here it is. I nominate myself mostly because of utility reasons. My schedule tends to be highly different to that of the active admins, making promoting me to admin a way to fill up gaps where we're short staffed in the event of vandalism issues. I'm sure most people here know that I am highly dedicated to vandal fighting and general clean up, I've had several years experience doing these things, and admin rights would give me greater effectiveness in performing these duties. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment- See, this is the right way to go about promoting your strengths. I couldn't have put it better myself. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 23:36, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Would be quite useful, and the unique time slot is a bonus, being in Austria*(My knowledge of geography is impeccable) and all. --Shockstorm (talk) 23:56, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
    • Comment- You mean Australia. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 00:00, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - woo, go Australia I wouldn't have thought of this, but it's a nice idea - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support – Some people might consider timezone arguments to be weak. But when the candidate is perfectly qualified, why the hell not choose on that basis? It fills a functional niche, and much as staff rights are treated as a reward, they still are meant to be wholly functional. Other than that, I can't add much to SCM's own points above -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 11:43, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Timezones, good attitude, great work ethic, what more to say? --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I was a bit surprised to see his name here, but what can I say. SCM has good judgement when it comes to blocks and deletions -- the only thing this would change is cut out the middleman (usually Yuan, sometimes another admin or VSTF member) when it comes to dealing with midmorning and daytime vandalism and other unwanted edits. C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I have not interacted with Some Color Mage that much, possibly once or twice (give or take). This is probably because of the timezone difference, but it would be nice to have our asses covered during the time when the majority of the active contributors are sleeping. Some Color Mage seems to know what he's doing from what I remember seeing on the wiki, possessing good judgement call relating to blocking, vandalism, etc. Fenrir9 (talk) 19:58, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Its funny, last time around we looked at SCM and while he was one of my favorites for Mod, some people seemed to think I was batty. Next time around, another nomination. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 05:29, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Xenomic (Admin)

  • Support: Endlessly hard-working, with so many excellent contributions. I believe the last few times, he hasn't been nominated due to fears that his activity would be sporadic, but by now he's demonstrated that he's going to stick around. Given the amount of moving and maintenance he does, I think granting him admin tools will be helpful. — YuanSalut 01:04, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I don't even know what I'm supporting but Xen does like more work than everyone combined - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - For reasons already given. Drake Clawfang (talk) 03:59, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - per above. --Shockstorm (talk) 04:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support- Takes note of what needs to be done maintenance-wise and what the Wiki is lacking, with regards to article moving and creating. However, his activity isn't always constant and he has shown reluctance to get involved in some tasks himself- though that was over fixing links, and I suppose we can ask a bot to do that. That aside, I think he'd get a lot out of additional rights. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 08:35, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Errm...? Xeno is an editor. First and foremost. He comes here with information, and tries to create, edit, and fix articles. I cannot imagine Xeno being so interested in the blocking, or protection, or maintenance work like deleting articles. JBed (talk) 14:01, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral - Does he want the post? He's done more than enough work to earn it. But he's also known for taking long hiatuses. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 18:45, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Neutral - Xenomic definitely has the qualities of being an admin, but his lack of presence (his hiatus) on the wiki is what makes the Support go into Neutral. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Oppose - Ditto what I originally wrote about JBed: does he really want to be here? He does a lot of image replacing, so giving him the tools would be about the same as giving Drake adminship (minus blocking vandals)... when he's here, which isn't often. So yeah. :/ C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Scathe (Bcrat)

  • Support- I think, with three out of our four current bcrats inactive, and a distinct lack of TA most of the time, Scathe, being the user to have won on the last consensus, would be the ideal candidate. Even when not around he responds quickly enough on the Staff Noticeboard or his Talk Page, is generally friendly, and has done outside of Wiki work such as the hosting of the FFVI Let's Play, which shows his commitment to the Wiki and who comes to it for what we do. In short, yes Scathe, I fully support you :) Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 20:11, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support – Scathe is very consistently present and active, and puts in plenty of work with regards to the wiki – in all honesty, many of our staff don't touch the wiki itself as much as perhaps we (I am most certainly including myself here) should. As Tia noted, his taking the lead on two LPs and being involved with MMIII speak volumes about his commitment to activity in the wider community of the wiki. And, of course, he is almost ceaselessly amiable. He's certainly not the only suitable candidate, but he's probably the one I would pick first -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 20:21, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Concur with much of the above. Drake Clawfang (talk) 20:24, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Like I said in the IRC, we don't need a bcrat who's around all the time, but there's absolutely no reason not to have one other than "bluh bluh dictatorship bluh"... which I might worry about for somebody else, but not Scathe. C A T U S E 20:57, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Throwing in my vote, for what it is worth User:R8.50Mango/Sig2 21:45, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I would prefer a bcrat who's around all the time, but in the last discussion consensus was for this, so this should be done even if it is belated. JBed (talk) 21:50, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - High-schoolers are the most obsessed users we have, and Scathe is an all-around class-act. I've never seen him do any wrong. --BlueHighwind 22:01, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - But of course. Scathe received overwhelming support during the last staff discussion to become bcrat, and to be honest I'm not sure why he wasn't promoted then. There isn't a rule against more than one active bcrat. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:33, July 9, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Yay Scathey. And what is this about high schoolers, BH? I thought most people here were older (I myself am 75 going on 85). --Shockstorm (talk) 00:00, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Scathe pls 8bit 00:58, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - — YuanSalut 01:04, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - No doubt - BlitzballArt.pngTidus357 03:23, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Hopefully Scathe won't become inactive once he becomes a Bureaucrat. SidVI 09:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - He would be perfect.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 13:39, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - But of course. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 18:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I don't even think my vote is necessary, olos. --ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 23:55, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - I can't add more to what has already been said. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - We have traditionally had only one active bcrat. While the tradition is also that our bcrats have appointed successors without a vote, I certainly would be foolish not to consider Scathe if I were moving on, and heck, I think the guy does good work. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L

Esprit (Acknowledgment)

  • Support - Hey, remember when these used to be handed out? I don't, because aside from Hecko, they were done before I had an account! Esprit might not want an actual staff position, but we still should do something to acknowledge all the work he's done for us, so I think it's time to bring this rank out of retirement. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 03:54, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support- As above. His contributions due to his stack of Ultimanias have been some of the most important we've had. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 08:30, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Per above. --Shockstorm (talk) 09:28, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - He deserves this, at the very least. SidVI 09:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - His image uploads and overall knowledge have definitely helped out the wiki. Surely that's what the acknowledgment section is for - people who have significantly contributed & helped the wiki. COOLAWITS ~TALK | YFC | XVI | DQFF~ 09:50, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support – The presence of the acknowledgements section has, for some reason, always felt like a slight oddity to me... but if we start using it again, that stops being an issue. And Esprit most certainly deserves it -- Sorceror Nobody Flan.PNG 11:49, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support – I wholeheartedly agree with acknowledging Esprit's existance and his image contribution.He's like that guy from prehistoric times who made paintings on cave walls. ;P —Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 12:20, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - This would be perfect for him, I think. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 18:48, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - I'm cool with this. Thanks everyone! Now that I've watched all 603 episodes of One Piece thus far (best anime ever), I can get back to my regularly scheduled life and hopefully finish off the final 25th Anni Ultimania before I go back to school. And my primary reason for no-modding is that my contributions tend to average out to high points of activity and low points, depending on what non-wiki stuff I'm currently obsessed with and what wiki stuff I might have an itch to get done, and usually once school starts I vanish completely. I'm just too darn unpredictable. I think the wiki-speak term I've seen used for this type of behavior is a WikiOgre? Rawr. Espritduo (talk) 20:20, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Since I've seen other users mention his art contribution, I'll also like to point out his knowledge on the Japanese language. He has been quite helpful in that department, and many wikians seek his help for romaji, translation, or ask him to look up within his Ultamania(s) for confirmation or info. Even when he "disappeared", he still took the time to check and post on his user page when a user(s) asked a question. Fenrir9 (talk) 02:02, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - An excellent compromise. — YuanSalut 12:14, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - The best way to sort this out. C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Duo's Mod Consideration

  • Support - I should mention that last time we had this conversation, Esprit was being considered for Mod and received pretty decent support. There were a few people who questioned his tenure, and ultimately I held back his promotion at that time. I checked his edit history about 3 months later, and he had kind of fallen off a cliff. I was afraid that perhaps I had driven the lad into some dispirited place, though from the looks of it now, it was probably a result of being busy at school or something similar. I obviously am ok with his acknowledgement. I feel it is only appropriate to discuss his Modship as well. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 05:57, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment- Um, TA, the reason Esprit has an acknowledgment nominee section rather than a mod nominee section is because he doesn't feel he's up to the promotion. It's already been discussed. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 11:02, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Don't worry, TA, I was actually quite relieved about not being modded back then. I would have truly be dispirited if I had been made a mod and then felt like I wasn't living up to the expectations of the title. Which, looking at how sporadic my activity can be, would probably have been the case. It was the right decision then, and I feel it's still the right decision now. Espritduo (talk) 12:26, July 13, 2013 (UTC)
  • Comment - Ah, I feel like I was obligated to make sure it was discussed, because it is probably the right thing to do. If he doesn't want it, I certainly won't force it on him. T·A·C·T·I·C·A·N·G·E·L 14:30, July 13, 2013 (UTC)

Spira (Acknowledgment)

  • Support – Spira contributes a lot of FFXI content: updates their articles and uploads equipment images.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 18:09, July 10, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - He's taken over XI coverage. I'm getting a sense of deja vu writing this... didn't we discuss this before but not actually give him acknowledgement because acknowledgement wasn't really a thing back then? C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Covering a Final Fantasy game that is literally quite huge (and ongoing?). Such dedication should be acknowledge. Fenrir9 (talk) 19:58, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Shockstorm (Acknowledgment)

  • Support – Shocky's a very active contributor, whose possibly most prominent job is link fixing and interwiki linking. He says he doesn't want to be a mod, but his hard work for the Wiki cannot be left unnoticed.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 07:20, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support- It's down to Shockstorm that I started link fixing without going to a bot for help (though I do still have Intangir clean it up sometimes xD ). Acknowledgement is definitely better than promotion if he doesn't want it. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 10:50, July 11, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Other than possibly JBed, the most dedicated editor on the wiki. He's always in the Recent Changes doing something, be it interwiki, fixing links, adding enemy stats, or just helping newcomers. C A T U S E 05:36, July 12, 2013 (UTC)
  • Support - Shockstorm has done quite a lot for the wiki, moving pages, fixing all those links, and making disambiguation pages. Fenrir9 (talk) 19:58, July 12, 2013 (UTC)