As many of you users, who have been around for a long while, know, we seem to have a major bi-annual argument on (ironically) the forum, talking about how the forum is the suxxorz and that spamming off-topic threads (and replying in them) is filling up the the RC page making the rest of us feel all emo D= We then say "Noooouuu, baaaad, forum is baaaad, no post off-topic D=" which makes the forum goers all emo and go "but we liek off-topic D=", followed by major D= and >:3 and >:D3= (<-- no idea of what it is) on both sides, and at the end of the week, nothing has actually changed except everyone is pissed. (end of summary) So, here are the two major key issues:
Our previous solution was quite simple; use the off-site forum. It was a complete bust. Why? Several reasons, but who cares? The bottom line is that it obviously ain't working, so what else are we gonna do? Enter solution: edit the sidebar. As some might have noticed, I've made an edit to the sidebars changing the link to the recent changes. The effect of this is that, by default, any edit made in the forum namespace does not show up in the RC, so the wiki editors are happy (lubz to me <3). Also, if you remove the tick in "Exclude namespace", just above the actual RC list, and click the button "go", you'll see nothing BUT the forum edits, so all the forum goers are happy (lubz to me <3). In conclusion, everyone are happy, we revive a space for off-topic threads, move the off-topic shiz from Rin's there, since the minor edits won't be spamming the RC any longer, and then we all have FFwiki-gasm and stop making life miserably for me since if people don't bug eachother, other people won't have to call me in to tell people how 'tarded they are (though admittedly, I do enjoy it sometimes). So this way everyone's a winner. | |||
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Really? It seems absolutely brilliant to me. This way effectively organizes the changes in two neat pages; 1: All the edits on the actual wiki, and 2: All the edits in the forum namespace. This allows you to see exactly what you want to see (work vs play) without having all the other stuff mixed in. And all you have to do to change between them now is remove/add the tick, click the button, and voila, you're good to go, no extra hastle. If you can't even be bothered to such a simple thing, then you are way too pampered ^^ But not to worry, there are other ways, such as bookmarking this page and using that to visit the FFWiki or learning how to use the watchlist more efficiently, i.e. actually watching the topics you are following instead of depending entirely on the RC =D | |||
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IE has it too, but it's pretty sub-par. I should add a link to this in the sitenotice, btw... For all the people who are all "Where did da edits go?! D=" But the solution (which is the only one that works, by the way, save for using the off-site forum or... well, that's the only alternative at the moment) is pretty good, in my opinion. And for those of you forum goers who are against this, let me just remind you that it was either this or having every off-topic thread deleted ^^ | |||
I LOVE it! I was wondering when forum edits are gonna be excluded from the RC, now the RC will be nothing but productive edits all the way (sort of), but the downside is that I wouldn't be able to see any major updates or discussions, if there ever was any... | |||
BlueLionheart - "Be careful, dear friend, lest you fall into the endless ocean of stars..." - 水風死 TALK - 17:23, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
Here we go again, more dumb solutions to dumb problems. Why shouldn't forum edits show up on the RC? They are recent changes, even if they're not exactly relevent ones. Although, if this doesn't work, we could always try what I suggested before and just get rid of all the forums. | |||
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Deadlyslashsword - +It takes disaster to learn a lesson, but you're going to make it through the darkest nights+ TALK - 18:11, 15 May 2009 (UTC) - Some people betray and cause treason...we're gonna make everything alright. | |||
Bonus points to Hecko for finding a solution, even though I'm not going to reap the benefits. I enjoy seeing forum actvity in the RC. | |||
Oh God, it really does! =O For some time, I thought it looked like a mean dude with one of those Victorian era ties or butterflies or what it is. | |||
The problem - people don't know what they want.
The cause - while an individual person is smart, people as a collective are stupid. The solution - do what you feel is needed because no matter what you do someone is going to bitch about it. Can't please everyone. | |||
BlueHighwind Q? 19:53, 15 May 2009 (UTC) TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ: | |||
I don't need Recent Changes to see Forum Edits. Any ones that have been edited are highlighted in bold on the Forum hubs. I usually skip most of the ones that look boring anyway. So what? | |||
Master Conjurer — (talk) 21:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
I want the ability to see both at once. I know there are other users who somehow customized their own personal views, and I'd like someone to show me how to edit mine to bypass this stupidity. | |||
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Master Conjurer — (talk) 21:57, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
I've been typing that in; I just want a quick button without having to add to my already-massive bookmarks. | |||
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Master Conjurer — (talk) 22:04, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
I disabled it, along with hiding my taskbar, so that I could see as much Internet as possible. | |||
Master Conjurer — (talk) 22:10, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
Good idea! I'll just switch from Monaco to Monaco! | |||
Sounds simple enough. | |||
Excellent! Now either click on the "more..." link under the Community tab on the sidebar, or use the Recent Changes widget. | |||
this is what happens when staff members pay attention to the community. A compromise was reached that pleases a large amount of people. Kudos to you X! And LET THE THREADS CONTINUE!!! Oh, and Fae, if you are watching this, can we have the Kain Highwind thread back? Exdeath64 22:19, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
- I never knew it was gone. Faethinverba volant 22:22, 15 May 2009 (UTC)
Master Conjurer — (talk) 08:26, July 28, 2016 (UTC) | |||
So here I am browsing the Internet, reading a couple articles I was linked to on Facebook, talking to my housemates. And my adoptive mother—who is presently working on a website—asks me what a good skin/theme for a MediaWiki site is. And I'm like, oh I know one that I liked a lot! Oh, what was its name? I know, Wikia used to use it, so I'll go through my old talk page on the Final Fantasy Wiki and see if the name of it is in there. (I'm thinking of Monaco, btw. This is relevant, I swear.) In order to look at the old page I'm using a new username I made back in 2014, which I have because I didn't really want to be this Master Conjurer person I created over the years. Master Conjurer was this elitist asshole who liked to hit frustrating things with a big stick (metaphorically) and got even more frustrated when someone was caught in the crossfire. Sure, yes, a decent coder too, but too edgy. And loud. Meanwhile, I was this meek 24-year-old who had already long lost everything and learned to stop trying to get it back. I lived where someone who liked me enough had space, and I didn't leave home unless I was with someone or soon about to be. I was a kitten who couldn't bring herself to speak from the lips of a tiger. So I hid from my old self here in a lot of the same way I do irl. Not that I did much editing at the time anyway. So anyway, I'm on my other username and looking at my old page (this one) and I see the little dancing moogle thingy in the upper-right. I think, that's new, wonder what it is, and click it. And it's the first time I see these wonderful acknowledgements. Someone remembered work I had done half a decade before, and Scathe wrote a beautiful poem, and while I'm not a huge fan of having hunky Sabin represent me there's a convoluted way that it's fitting tbh. And so here I am, a 26-year-old paralyzed woman in a ragged farmhouse on a random mountain in the middle of nowhere, the antithesis to relevance, literally crying at a gesture made by people she hasn't talked to in years. I had more I was planning to write, but really I think for now I'm just glad I got that last part out. | |||
Fae, you're the one who DELETED the Kain Highwind thread, so don't give us that. | |||
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Master Conjurer — (talk) 22:33, 15 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
About when someone uses the word, "suxxorz," and starts making bad imitations, I zone out. | |||
Riiiight, I'll file that under "completely irrelevant statements no one cares about D=". And note to self: make a better filing system, the names of the current categories are too long... and probably shouldn't include emoticons. | |||
Master Conjurer — (talk) 01:11, 16 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
As though it matters to me how relevant my statements are to you, Däne. | |||
Finally, I've been thinking about this for a while actually, and it is a good compromise, the idiots get their stupidity, and the stuck up jerks can be stuck up. Everyone wins! BTW: Hai Hecko, haven't heard, well, seen of you in a while ^_^ | |||
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SilverDragon28 - "Allow me to shatter your delusions of grandeur." TALK - 20:57, 20 May 2009 (UTC) Veni, vidi, vici. | |||
Are we talking about the box on the left side of the screen below, among other things, the random page option? Because forum changes have never shown up there for me, just mainspace, talk, and user pages. | |||