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Okay, we've seen it all: best hero and the notorious Kefka VS Sephiroth/best villain debates. How about most useless character? :D Mention them in an article by game and role. Or here. :P

Red Ronso

		Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 19:27, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
		In before anyone says Edward.

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		In before anyone says Cait Sith....or Yuffie I guess.

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		FëasindëTalk "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." 19:37, 21 August 2008 (UTC)
		Edward is NOT useless in the DS version. I'd say Selphie. Since FFVIII characters are what you want them to be, it's their limits that make them count.

		Pablo618 - I am the Iron man Proto-babil!! TALK - Time for Dark Matter {{{time}}}
		I second that, Edward is NOT useless, just a wuss (DS version). The most useless.... mmm... gotta think of that...

		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - {{{time}}}
		Cyan and Umaro from VI. Having 12 other playable characters doesn't help their already abysmal stats and skills. No one loves Bushido. No one loves Berserkergang.

		Vanishing Star - All that awaits you is a somber morrow TALK - No matter where the winds may blow. ~LOVELESS~
		I'd have to agree with 8bit and say Umaro. And Edward isn't useless. His song gives a constant healing effect and he practically saves you from being killed by the Dark Elf.

		BlueHighwind Q? TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ:
		Mr. and Mrs. King and Queen of worthlessness, Rapha and Marach Galthena. At least Umaro and Edward and Cait Sith can all hit the enemy reliably. These two are broken beyond repair, and if you could make these work in battle, I commend you for the impossible achievement. But I'll be sticking with Cid, Agrias, and Balthier.

		Vanishing Star - All that awaits you is a somber morrow TALK - No matter where the winds may blow. ~LOVELESS~
		I completely forgot about them. And yes, they are both worthless idiots. The only thing that makes Rapha good is bringing her into the Midlight's Deep. Which I heard you need very little bravery for.

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		Red Ronso - ...Only those who try will become. TALK - 14:42, 22 August 2008 (UTC)
		Yay, I made a userbox! :D Anyways, Selphie is definitely one. And here's food for thought (God, I think I'm getting hungry:) Amarant from FFIX is USELESS. His abilities, weapons, EVERYTHING! Quina's much better than he is. :D Oh, and as for Rapha and Marach, Rapha isn't that useless: if you make her a Black Mage or a magic-using unit, and pair that to her Skyseer ability (only when attacking groups of 5 units) then she isn't that bad. But Marach... he REALLY needs to be killed off in a Tactics sequel. He should have stayed dead in FFT.right

		Krystal Tomlin - "When prayers turn to promises, not even fate can stand in our way." TALK - 23:26, 22 August 2008 (UTC) - "Wouldn't wanna be you!"
		Hm, the way I see Square make characters, I don't think anyone is useless...except for that mime and berserker by the names of Gogo and Umaro. All they do is copy off people and stay in berserk mode.

		BlueHighwind Q? TALK - So if you care to find me, look to the Western Sky!ツ:
		A lot of people don't like Edward because he's a Bard and Bards are the lamest Class in general. However, I always thought that Tellah was certaily the weakest character in FFIV. Edward can heal your entire party with Regen and give the enemy some nice negative statuses (Confuse) all for no MP cost. But Tellah has no Speed, no Defense, no Attack, and Magic that I found to be generally weaker than Porom and Palom. Plus, only 90 MP means that even though Tellah has some nifty attacks, he can't use most of them because he's too friggin' old. And FFIV's Cid is pretty dinky too.

		Leon5550 - Procede. Fac mevm diem, pvnc. TALK - {{{time}}}
		Uhh... I never think anyone is useless, because I always exploit every1 in battles, but if I have to say: Irvine (FFVIII), wait! before u come with protests, let me explain Technically Irvine is useful, but Logically he is useless because why have a guy with a gun, if u have one with a gunblade? Makes u think twice before saying a gunblade is an "awesome weapon", eh?

		Sora G. Strife - Everything written is meant to be read. Everything read is meant to be known. Everything known is meant to be understood. Everything understood is meant to be acted upon. TALK - 12:26, 27 August 2008 (UTC)
		Hi, new at the forums. Call me Sora. It's Cait Sith, Cyan, and Umaro, that who they are. Anywhere you look, Bards are almost always underpowered. Even in DnD.

heeyy selphie was my favourite character of final fantasy VIII her full cure saved me many times first time i fought diablos i had a good strategy so when he used gravija i let squall and zell use their limits and then use full cure. back to the topic then i dont really think anyone is useless but the characters i didnt like of the games i played was lulu(FFX) garnet(FFIX) barret(FFII) quistis(FFIII) yes i just sad i dont like quistis so all trepies out there have an enemy from now on XD

		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - {{{time}}}
		I find it interesting that a person would be so ignorant of the series' roots that they would leave the "V" off later titles and think that others would assume they knew which game they were talking about.

		Red Ronso - ...Only those who try will become. TALK - 14:03, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
		When you think about it, no one in FFVIII is useless. It's the one exception to the rule. Everyone has their own strengths and weaknesses. But if I had to name at the very least the two least useful party members (guests don't count, like Edea), sadly, I'd name Rinoa and Irvine. Why? Simple reasoning, really. Rinoa: She has the most unreliable Limit Break in the game in the form of the beloved Angelo. When you need a Limit it never happens. Ever. And Angel Wing? Pfft. It's only useful if you only and exclusively equip Meteor, but that's just it: it's the only worthwhile spell for her. Otherwise, well, what use could I possibly see in her? The only use she has is in terms of story. Just like Irvine. Irvine: OHLOOKIGOTGUNZ. At least he's more useful than Rinoa will ever be. His gun limits are unreliable at best. Good, yes they are. But unreliable, yes they are. Squall and Zell will probably kill the enemy before he can even finish one off. As for Selphie and Quistis, well, Selphie is a close one to being useless, but her saving grace is Full Cure. Having Quistis using Shockwave Pulsar, Mighty Guard and White Wind almost exclusively eliminates the need to equip her with magic aside from Aura and the usual junctions. But yeah, it's how I feel. And I have a new useless character for the record: Leon from FFII. He shows up very late and there's little you can do with him.right

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		Red Ronso - ...Only those who try will become. TALK - 14:29, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
		@Henrya: WHAHAHAHAHA!!! OMFGWTFLMFAO!!! That's so true! Why didn't I think of that?right

		Born from Darkness Talk · Contribs 20:48, 2 September 2008 (UTC)
		Gau, Maria, Irvine, and Umaro. Also, Edward isn't comepletely useless, as he saves the party on several ocasions

		Golden Monkey - Of course you can trust giant reptilian priests. TALK - 5:44 PM, 9-7-08
		Oh, god, Umaro. Even the weak characters in other games have some use. An entire character you can never control who only has three attacks? Horrible idea. And Cyan-in the time it takes to charge even an low-level SwordTech, you'd be able to cause more damage with everyone else!

GORDON.--NARF 00:49, 25 September 2008 (UTC)

Some Color Mage / Talk Contribs / / No time. I don't really care. ... I have to agree with BH about how much Tellah sucks. Honestly, a good spell selection, but he's only got 90MP to pull it off with. Not to mention the stat losses he gets on level up. And due to Edward getting decent augments/abilities in the DS version, it makes Tellah's suckiness even more obvious.

		Rocking Chair - She looks like the real thing, tastes like the real thing. My Fake Plastic Love TALK - {{{time}}}
		I never really actually got to use Tellah. He died before i got the chance to even cast a spell. The most useless character overall is Rikku. Most thieves still have the ability to hit a bit of damage whereas she barely lives long enough to steal, Her attack sucks and you get her too late in the game for any Sphere Grid developement.

		Hexedmagica - Rathalos: World Tour/All Ass Sword TALK - My companions' feelings have been etched upon this body. I'll change this eternal darkness into light! Heaven and Earth! One who matches the gods! CHOUGINGA GURREN-LAGANN! {{{time}}}
		The most useless character has to be them damn NPC's.. None of them help at all.

		Rocking Chair - She looks like the real thing, tastes like the real thing. My Fake Plastic Love TALK - {{{time}}}
		Haha Hexed, i gotta also say Aria from III she never heals you when you need it

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		DrakeyC - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages... TALK - 03:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
		Umaro, hands down. He sucks. Cait Sith and Yuffie and the cast of VIII may be annoying, but at least you can control them. All Umaro does is attack, he blows.

		Moogle_Kupo - Sticking feathers up your butt does not make you a chocobo TALK - {{{time}}}
		it gotta be Cait Sith or Quina.They do nothing for final fantasy.

		Dazuro - Professor to Kitchen: The Joan Rivers Story TALK - {{{time}}}
		So am I the only one that likes Umaro? He's worth using if only for the hilarity of him getting Confused and then bludgeoning himself to death with Gogo, but lulz aside, he can be damn powerful and his snow attack is great when farming in the Dinosaur Forest--hits both sides of the screen for big ice damage, so if you end up fighting two T-Rexes instead of a Brachiosaurus, he can slaughter much of their HP quickly while anyone else casts a quick spell to finish them off.

		Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 00:13, 3 October 2008 (UTC)
		You are one of the few who likes Umaro. See, Umaro is actually the complete opposite of Gau, despite the fact that both are uncontrollable. Gau is the most versitile of all the characters in FFVI, while Umaro is the least. With Gau, first of all, you can actually change his equipment, plus, his Rages actually TAKE ON THE ELEMENTAL AND STATUS ATTRIBUTES OF THE ENEMY, so Gau is obviously very customizable. Umaro, the only thing you can do is change Relics around. Try a Umaro SCC and compare that to the others. You won't last long.

		SilverSummoner - Believe it or not, I've been stalking your talk page all these times... O_O Liek srsly TALK - I said, whatever!
		Rinoa isn't worthless. Edea does. I gotta admit that her 'Combine' limit break is kinda... funny, but the 'angel wing' is definitely something else once you know the trick. Selphie isn't worthless too. 'The End' limit break is just the most convenient thing in the game, in my opinion. I junctioned Triple to her 'Luck' to get it maxed and gave her auto-haste and aura status and taa-daah... The End will pop up right away. As with Edea, the only thing that's good bout her is that she has high affiliation with the GFs. but that's it.

		Vestras - "Always towards the Horizon" TALK - 10ish
		What defines a useless character is not what they have the potential to be, but how they are in base form. By that token, FFIV Cid's ability is useless, but he does ok physical damage, so not entirely abysmal. Rafa and Malack on the other hand have the worst "unique" skill set in the game, which is really unfortunate, leaving them almost entirely useless. Umaro, by his nature as berserker is not useless, he does tons of physical damage, but he's not as useful as other characters.

		ChiefKakashi Talk - Contribs - Random - {{{time}}} You can feel the waves coming on, let them destroy you or carry you on.
		Right now my most hated character is Fusoya. He may have every spell, but he only has 190 MP to use them. Oh, and when you level him up, his stats don't change. Bless sounds useful (gradually restores the party's MP), but only restores about 5-10 MP every few minutes! And, he dies CONSTANTLY! SCREW YOU FUSOYA!!! DIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!

		Consular Revan - The Everything and the Nothing TALK - There is no need for such trivial things as 'morals'... {{{time}}}
		"it gotta be Cait Sith or Quina.They do nothing for final fantasy." You better repent for your blasphemy.

"but Logically he is useless because why have a guy with a gun, if u have one with a gunblade?" Because Squall's gunblade doesn't fire bullets, and even if it did having another person is always useful (if we went by your logic, then A LOT of characters would be obsolete) CrashGordon94 13:26, 27 October 2008 (UTC)

(Going by all of the final fantasies) 1. No one because I have a team of a Fighter two redmages and a monk 2. I have not played much of so I will say Guy 3. Aria 4. Tellah because he is so effing slow I could only use a few spells 5. King Tycoon because he does absolutly nothing to help you....much 6. Strago, Relm, and Locke because I say so and what I say goes (i loves Umaro because he throws you at people) 7. Barret because I say so and I never liked using him 8. Quistis because she sucks AND blows (pluss she has a crush on Squall) 9. Beatrix because you cant get her "Savethequeen" and equip it to other people AnD Steiner because he is stupid and I dont like the swords he equips 10. Probably Wakka or Rikku because I dont like them thats all 12. I never played 11 so I skipped It any way Im gonna have to say......Penelo FFTA. Most of my clan because I never use them FF12RW. Im gonna have to say Ashe because her quickining DOES NOT help in the final battle Poliwirl100 22:33, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

		Red Ronso - ...Only those who try will become. TALK - 04:40, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
		Forgive me, sir, but it seems you have flamed Quina. You must now die for it. :D Har, just kidding! Actually, Quina isn't exactly useless. I used him/her/it in the first disc when fighting Beatrix and he already had White Wind and Mighty Guard. And in Disc 2, it was a lot of help! In later discs, his/her/its repertoire just grew and became even more useful. So no. Quina is NOT useless. :D But Cait Sith... V_V OH GOD! *repressed memories of losing because of Cait Sith in FFVII resurface* Here's another one for the list: Cid in FFIV (both iterations.) He's just... there for the ride.right

Eh I didn't use Cid all that much but with Quina He was helpful untill I got to disk 3 and he can't defeat that boss with steiner but oh well.....Oh and BTW nobody had better diss blue mages because they rock (except strago because my game glitched so for some odd reason he cant't learn his magic) Cait sith lets see here OH YEAH I REMEMBER HIM he helped me beatmost of the bosses (until I got Vincent because between Cait Sith and Yuffie I had to lose one.) Poliwirl100 18:01, 4 November 2008 (UTC)

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		Blackheart1991 - it is morphing time! TALK - {{{time}}}
		I'd have to say Aeris, I like her as a character, but she dies too frigging early to be of any use!!!!

		theanonymousfangirl - If you leave me tonight, I'll wake up alone... TALK - Maybe there's a way out... {{{time}}}
		Aerith. I know a lot of people like her but I really hate her and think she's so useless and weak in battle and she's just there for some healing, but she's not good for anything else.

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		Red Ronso - "I may wear thongs, but at least I'm a better villain than Sephiroth is- I destroyed a planet!" --Kuja TALK - 14:13, 26 November 2008 (UTC)
		excuse me. You seem to have forgotten Vaan. You must now die for it. :D Har, just kidding! But Penelo is still far more tolerable than Vaan. V_Vright