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Day 4[]

8. Beatrix - 8
1. Kain - 9

Votes for 8. Beatrix[]

  1. BlueHighwind:I came in here with the depression following the fall of Cloud, so perhaps my judgement isn't what it normally would be. I was going to vote Kain, I have class loyalties and he is the greatest Dragoon of all time (excluding myself, arrogance aside: I'm so awesome). However Beatrix is just so much cooler than the 2D Kain. She's just so awesome - few bosses ever defeat the main party Three Times. I believe that feat remains unbeaten in annuls of video games, but then again I did no research. Plus Beatrix has a better name and is so much better looking. Oh yeah, you can knock my HP down to 1 any time you want, baby. I'm always ready. I do love a woman that can kick my ass.
  2. Drake Clawfang: Yup, never played IX, and I'm voting for her! First, she's cute, maybe even hot, but I haven't seen her action so I can't tell. Second, I've read BH's walkthrough (:p). Third, Kain is cool, no doubt, but the guy gets brainwashed more than the Republican voters. He turns on Cecil three or four times. Sorry, but Kain, you're a Dragoon, and Dragoons rock. But so do Paladins, and given the choice, I'd rather have someone I know isn't gonna turn on me at any time.
  3. SmegHead: Kain is my favourite character from IV and should contest the championship against Auron, but IMO Beatrix is the best supporting character in any Final Fantasy, and gets my vote here.
  4. TacticAngel: Because this is supposedly an explaination, "I vote Beatrix!"
  5. Blue。: I loved this word - Climhazzard. I vote for Beatrix.
  6. Masamune: I weep for Cloud, but I must move on. I challenge anyone to produce a cooler Paladin than Beatrix. I admit that I've never played IV, but from what I've heard, Kain gets brainwashed...frequently. Was Beatrix ever brainwashed or possessed? I don't think so, because if anyone tried, she would shove Save the Queen right up their ass. Beatrix can win this whole thing. Go Beatrix!
  7. Faethin: Just for the record, KAIN RULZ. But Beatrix was my favorite FFIX along with Vivi. And since FFIX is my favorite FF, well, I vote for Beatrix. I pretty much agree with everything BH's said.
  8. User:Booff7: Granted I've never played IV, in my opinion Freya and Beatrix were deffinately the two best characters of IX. Masamune really summarized everything else I would have said.

Votes for 1. Kain[]

  1. Crazyswordsman: Sometimes I hate voting. This is a fight I hate voting in because I adore both of these characters. But the fact is that Kain was one of my intros to the series, is still one of my top characters. He beats Beatrix because he spends about 99% of his time airborne, so he gets to avoid ALL of Beatrix's moves.
  2. User:Lancer4: You could already tell by my name but i love dragoons/lancers. Dragoons are to me one of the best classes in all of final fantasy all they gotta do is jump and u can't touch them and their jump always hits a lot more then their regular attack. 100%miss+higherattack=kickass. Now Kain is by far my favorite character. He's the one who made the signiture dragoon suit and he's a Highwind, all the final fantasy characters that got that last name are all spear users or dragoons and all of them are amazing!
  3. User:FFFan: I vote for Kain becuase Kain is the second coolest dragoon in FF. Lancer 4 is my brother you idiot and I told him to put my vote on.
  4. dudutsai: I always thought Beatrix was a weaker version of General Leo, so my vote is for Kain. Even though he is a bit dim.
  5. Renmiri Kahn!!!! Oopsie, Kain!!!! ;)
  6. Adam Mcduck: A hard fight but in the end Kain wins my vote. He is probably the best character in IV. Beatrix was great too but not in the same class as Kain. Plus Kain's DS picture looks great, but thats not a major influence in my vote.
  7. Drake: I've made my choice, and I have to go with my very first favorite character in Final Fantasy. I'm disappointed I can't vote for Beatrix, but Kain is the Highwind. In fact, one of the reasons Cid Highwind is so cool is because his last name is the same as Kain's. Say it. Highwind. It's just like letting all that is awesome roll off your tounge in one word. If Kain loses this one, I might even vote for a XII character against Beatrix later on.
  8. Hexed: The second best character in IV against a character in a game i haven't played past disc 2. I'll go with Kain on this one.
  9. Jack says: I love Beatrix. But I love Kain more. I really like Dragoons for some reason ATM. Of course, either of them will get their ass kicked by Cecil (or Cloud - keep dreaming CSM, Cloud would SO have raped Beatrix. ^_-).

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{{FFFan It's cool, I guess I was a little harsh but I did tell people before somewhere in one of the voting pages. Sorry. :)

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Same here...I love them both...it pains me that one of them will have to fall right now. But TA, its funny, cos every time I vote, I put "I vote for..." ~Chocobo Knight

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Day 3[]

4. Cloud - 9
5. Cecil - 11

Votes for 4. Cloud[]

  1. BlueHighwind: As much as I'd love to turn my back on loser, emo, oversized sword swinging, Tifa-ignoring, and Sephiroth slaying Cloud, the inner FFVII fanboy in me has a way of oozing out of my well-crafted badass exterior. I had lots of good times with Cloud; the opening in Midgar, dating Tifa, beating Safer Sephiroth, the very first time I beat Emerald WEAPON with a desperate eleventh hour Ominslash. And before Advent Children he actually was a very cool hero. I must trush my instints on this one, Space Monkies. I vote Cloud and now that I think about it: I'm proud to vote for the hero of the greatest Final Fantasy of all time. Go Cloud, kick that lamely named Cecil's Paladin ass!
  2. User:DrakemasterDrake: Cecil started it all for me, but Cloud is, I don't know. He's Cloud. He's frickin' Cloud. Come on, if Cloud ordered you to do something, do you really think you could look him straight in his eyes and say "No, do yourself, you asshole."? No, you couldn't. And if you could, the Buster Sword would have swept your head from your neck in one quick [whoosh], and as Ramirez said, "If your head comes away from your neck, it's over." He's Cloud.
  3. dudutsai: Cloud wins this one by far. The thing that annoys me about Cloud are the Cloud fanboys... but remember, it is THEM who are the hellishly annoying ones, not Cloud. Cecil is not that memorable for me, nor is anyone from FFIV (minus Rydia and Yang). The one thing Cecil has was an incredibly strong sense of justice. This vote is purely from FFVII by the way (since he started sucking big time in other appearances (KH, KH2, CC)).
  4. TacticAngel: I have problems with both of these protagonists, long lists of problems in fact, but I find cloud much more endearing, especially in the long run.
  5. Masamune: Seeing how close this is makes me scream with fury. How is this even...I can't...AAARGH!! Who is Cecil? I don't mean literally "who is he" because I know: Protagonist of FFIV, conflicted Dark Knight turned Paladin, blah blah blah etc. But...what did he lend to...anything? I'm so upset I can't even...do...sentences. Seeing Cloud's picture next to some guy who looks like he should be knocking on car windows in the red light district and asking balding middle-aged men if they want to go on a wild ride...Then seeing how close they are vote-wise...It's just...RAGE!!!
  6. SmegHead: I am by no means a FFVII fanboy, but I did like the game quite a bit. I also enjoyed FFIV but was not greatly impressed by Cecil. His storyline is very good, but in battle he is a pussy, outshined by Kain, Yang and Rydia. Then again, Cloud is also a pussy. If only for his longevity, my vote must go to Cloud.
  7. Gold: This took a lot of thought, but I genuinely liked Cloud more as a main character than I did Cecil; Cecil chose the path of the Paladin over that of the Dark Knight, and this is unforgivable. Cloud may not have been the best of the main characters in the whole of Final Fantasy history, but he dwarfs Cecil by quite a long way. The only things that edged me towards Cecil were his old life as a Dark Knight, and the fact that he became a King at the end of the game, while Cloud has turned into some kind of delivery boy by the time Advent Children starts...
  8. Jack says: Final Fantasy VII fanboy. >=D
  9. User:Booff7: wow... I am amazed by all the people who hate ffvii just because it was the most successful (notice I said successful not best.) Honestly, how many people here would hate Cloud if he weren't adored by so many? If ffvii were just as successful as any other Final Fantasy game I assure you all that 80% of the people who hate vii would like. It's a fact that people like to vote for the underdog and hate what everybody else loves just to stick out. FFVII was awsome, Cloud was awsome, and I don't beleive that a single person on this wiki would have voted just to spite Cloud if they didn't know how successful ffvii was. A perfect example of my above theory is World of Warcraft. No one here can deny that there are people that hate WoW just becasue it's famous (personally I don't like WoW but I don't hate it.)There is no denying Cloud was a great character or at least a good one, because he deffintely wasn't terrible it's just that people like to stand out. Cloud was awsome, and I vote Cloud.

Votes for 5. Cecil[]

  1. Crazyswordsman: Cecil IS Final Fantasy to me. He, and he alone, introduced me to the series. And all artworks of him are really good, from Amano's depictions to Yoshida's kickass DS depiction (shown above). And he is able to control himself. Cloud, meanwhile, looks like he's gonna throw a temper tantrum in that pic, and can't keep himself under control, and is a wanker who isn't friendly at all and is very selfish. Cecil will destroy Cloud before he has a chance to fire off Omnislash. Plus, Spikey Hair is absolutely the worst thing you can ever do to a character. And his new art from things like Advent Children and KH make him look like another one of those prettyboys. Cecil always stood out as a Russel Crowe type character.
  2. Pablo618: Cecil is one of the coolest main characters of the FF history
  3. Faethin: Cecil the Dark Knight-turned-Paladin is the coolest main character of the series, next to Zidane. CECIL FTW!
  4. Drake Clawfang:I've read the plot for FF VII. Cloud ignores Tifa like BH said, plus Advent Children, plus the oversized sword and hair. He's clearly compensating for something. I'll be honest, just looking at him, he really does look like a bad anime character with that hair and sword. I like anime, when it's good. There's only one anime character cool enough to pull off swinging an oversized sword, and he's got white hair and is all man.
    On that note, Cecil too, is all man, although he does lose points for choosing Rosa over Rydia. Then again, he hung around Rydia when she was like, eight, so I guess that would make it kinda weird. Still, he's a Dark Knight, AND a Paladin. They, along with Mystic Knight from FF V, are the coolest classes for physical fighters (for mages, no content: Summoners and Black Mages). Cecil gets my vote, although I'll put money on him losing simply because Cloud appears in FF VII.
  5. Renmiri Cecil FTW
  6. This is onesided, i mean a Paladin vs a retarted blond anime freak, although omnislash v5 is cool i like Cecil as a character more. Hexed
  7. Diablocon I said to myself I wouldn't vote in all of this, but now that I see Cecil getting beaten, by Cloud of all people for God's sake, I can't just sit there and do nothing anymore! Cecil is just so much more awesome in every regard, and interesting. Cloud just annoys me, the man can't finish a coherent sentence, and he spends most of the game thinking he's someone else, someone better in every regard.
  8. Adam Mcduck: Even though i way prefer VII to IV, in terms of these 2 characters cecil wins on the fact that the worst thing in VII for me was Cloud. I didn't hate him but he has never been my favourite thing in FF history. I never liked Cecil much either, i disliked the fact he became a paladin, but he's better than cloud.
  9. I vote for awesome Cecil! ~Chocobo Knight
  10. Jorge 23:19, 12 November 2007 (UTC) I just have to say that Final Fantasy IV was the first one I ever played and when I think about an epic Final Fantasy moment, I always think about the battle between Dark Knight Cecil and Paladin Cecil. It was a definig moment that has stuck with me for years.
  11. User:FFFan: Cecil is the best male lead out of all the FFs. His story is an awesome story about redemption and forbidden love. HE is the first paladin of the final fantasy series who was the precursor for Beatrix, Ashe, Agrigas, etc. He is awesome and so is his Lightbringer and Ragnarok weapons. Cloud's ok, but that's all he is, ok.

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User:Booff7: Maybe I should have pointed this out but I made sure in my response never to say that Cloud was better than Cecil. You're right, there are deffinetaly people out there that will like Cecil better than Cloud. What I was trying to say was that there are so many people out there who hate Cloud for the wrong reasons. I'm sure there are people out there who actually hated Cloud but that number is far less than those who claim to hate Cloud just because other people like him. I actually never played IV so maybe Cecil is better than Cloud, I wouldn't know. All I know is that there are too many people who hate him just because others love him. I made sure never to say anything about Cecil in my vote. Maybe what I said doesn't apply to you, but there is no possible way you can deny that there are people out there that hate him because others loved him. I'd probably write more but I just picked up Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion for my birthday and have been playing it non stop so I'm gonna get back to that right now but I just wanted to clarify what I had said above.

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Jorge 23:23, 12 November 2007 (UTC) I just wanted to ask if anybody else is suprised Cecil has yet to appear in Kingdom Hearts? He is a person who fought the darkness within as a Dark Knight, and had to purge himself with light to become a Paladin. It seems like a perfect plot point for the KH series to jump over and devour.

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Day 2[]

6. Edgar - 4
3. Basch - 14

Votes for 6. Edgar[]

  1. Crazyswordsman: Edgar is kinda like the FFVI version of Balthier, who is better than Basch in every way imaginable. Edgar is also one of my all time faves, so he wins.
  2. Gold: Better game, better character.
  3. dudutsai: Whoh did someone delete a lot of Edgar votes? Last time I voted there were at least 5. Yeah... Edgar is better in battle by a lot and a better as a character too.
  4. Drake Clawfang: He jumps, he fires a crossbow, swings a chainsaw, and spews poison gas. Edgar all the way.

Votes for 3. Basch[]

  1. Let them watch, I know something of cages. That quote sums it up for me Hexed
  2. Adam Mcduck: Edgar was alright as a character, though the ladies man thing was a bit annoying at times. He was useful, good background, etc. However, Basch had better lines, a better personality and a better history. Also, the fact that he keeps his promise to Gabranth is honourable.
  3. Jack says: Edgar just annoyed me after awhile with the whole ladies thing. Basch was second or third best character in XII (although that says little).
  4. I vote for Basch ~Chocobo Knight
  5. TacticAngel: I feel the need to put this quote in bold and italics as the most awesome line of all FF badasses, though Hexed already mentioned it: Let them watch, I know something of cages!!!
  6. Blue。: Basch and his gallantry wins. He does have a ladies man charm too, but his steadfastness to his knightly vows is what fascinates me.
  7. SmegHead: Basch for me.
  8. Pablo618: I'm too bored to give my opinion, just basch, ok?
  9. Masamune: I lost all respect for Edgar when he asked Relm about her age. Up until then his occasional flirtations were an amusement, but there's a fine line between ladies' man and pedophile. Oh, wait. That's probably one of the most clearly defined lines I can think of. But I'm not just voting against Edgar, here. I'm also voting for Basch. Basch was cool. His classic quote has been noted a few times already, here, so I won't repeat it, but his ethics and strong sense of duty made him stand out in a game of morally ambigious characters, such as Ashe and Vayne.
  10. Mymindislost: Edgar's fun and all, but Basch takes it as far as being knightly.
  11. User:Booff7: Edgar was my favorite character in VI (don't ask me why, I can't even explain it, I just liked him.)Still, Basch is far superior to Edgar for all the reasons mentioned above which I havn't read but I'm sure everything has been said already. I vote for Basch.
  12. Drake: This is the only time you'll see me vote for a XII character who isn't going up against a XII character. Basch is just cool. Just cool.
  13. BlueHighwind: I voted way too late, so all the best comments have been taken. Basch is awesome: once he joined my party, I never had need for that pussy Vaan again.
  14. Renmiri Bashy-washy rules!
  15. TugaKnight: That's a hell of a guy

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Day 1[]

Votes for 2. Auron[]

  1. Crazyswordsman: FFIX is way better than FFX, but Auron is better than Rusty. Most of the characters in FFX were dull and were not cool. Auron was the saving grace of the lot.
  2. Masamune: "Now is the time to choose! Die and be free of pain, or live and fight your sorrow! Now is the time to shape your stories! Your fate is in your hands!"
  3. Renmiri See quote above.
  4. Adam Mcduck: Auron was the best X character, he was great. Stiener was good and more useful in terms of gameplay. But how annoying was Rusty's armour noise?!
  5. I hated Steiner. I grew to like him, eventually, but that means I still liked Auron better, as I liked him from the start. I vote for Auron ~Chocobo Knight
  6. BlueHighwind: Where have I been during this key battle? Man this is one tough choice, oh wait it isn't. Auron is the greatest, the best of the best of the best. I'd say he's only beaten by Sephiroth and Tifa. So clearly my vote goes for the badass in sunglasses.
  7. Jack says: Personally, I dislike both IX and X. But that's just the games. Auron was just cool. Steiner could never be called cool.
  8. Pablo618: I'll go for auron, I don't like steiner's face
  9. User:Booff7: Now we're finally getting into the category of characters I actually used. Auron is one of the most awsome characters in Final Fantasy, nay, in any video, actually he's probably one of the best characters in any story ever created. I have the quote Masamune posted above all over my notebook. Auron is just too awsome to pass up.
  10. dudutsai: Auron is the coolest character in X, and he is also good in battle. Steiner has all the attacks Auron has and more, but he isn't nearly as cool.
  11. User:Squall92: I have to say that Auron beats Rusty, but not ny that much. Rusty was funny as hell at times, but Auron standing ontop of a building as Sin approaches was a killer scene and could win this competition by its self.
  12. SmegHead: Auron's gonna sweep them all! Coolest. Character. Ever.
  13. TugaKnight: Very easy choice...

Votes for 10. Steiner[]

  1. TacticAngel: If will and fortitude have more to do with battle than trying to look like a badass and being a drunk, then Steiner is my man.
  2. Drake: I always used to name him Drake.
  3. Mymindislost: Auron's alright, but definitely doesn't deserve the kind of hero worship he seems to get among FF fans. I love Steiner, on the other hand. Entertaining, sweet, and determined. I also loved his story with Beatrix. ^_^
  4. Faethin: Any character that quotes Monty Python gets my vote! Bah, it's only a flesh wound!
  5. Blue。: My vote for Rusty.

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