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Seriously? I mean, it's got it's problems and all. But are we just gonna ignore the fact that these flaws that people come up with were apparent in the original FFVII too? I hate it when fanboys rip on this movie claiming the characters were boring and the story was stupid. It just shows how biased they really are about this certain series. For reasons I can barely fathom, these people just don't want to admit that these characters have always been boring and the story has always been less than riveting and even kinda cluttered and stupid. I don't like this movie by any means. But I feel I dislike it for different reasons than everybody else. In my opinion, this movie falls flat because it focuses on the two weaker aspects of FFVII which are; in my opinion, the characters and the story. Whereas I personally liked FFVII because of the gameplay and it's side activities. Final Fantasy has always had a tendency of writing really hollow and uninteresting characters but it's always been the gameplay that pulled people in and what pulled these games through. So when you remove the entire interactive aspect of it, it immediately loses it's charm. But it's hard for me to hate this movie because I feel it didn't really do anything that harmful. It tried to give fans a satisfying sequel but the fans were obviously less than thrilled. It's okay to dislike this movie based on it's own cinematic abomination. But if your one of those people who think it's a disgrace to your very beings as Final Fantasy VII fans. Think again... Jayking116 (talk) 10:50, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

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Lots of people love it. I myself don't like it. I think it's terrible (just my opinion). the characters look weak. many of them look like those J-rock wannabes from fashion districts in Tokyo, thinking they're cool because they're acting/dressing like a weirdo. Cloud's outfit has a half pants half skirt or something (what the hell is he wearing?). It looks like people on Gaia got some kind of black leather obsession. I think FFXV and Advent Children have several elements in common. probably because of Nomura had full control in both titles. Kingdom Hearts too. all of Nomura's products gave me the same feeling while playing/watching, I felt weird, depress, annoyed, and confused. I didn't finish watching AC and quit KH1 after 4-5 hours. It's like he tried too hard to make his works feel deep. like... a man falls from the sky... in the dream... in the darkness... he's sad... he can't stop dreaming... in his dream.... his farther... which is his uncle... when he was young... he thought he's another man... who's pretending to be another man.... ok just shut the fuck up and go straight to the point, I beg you. Nomura can draw and design characters, I know, but please don't let him write or create concepts for the game. Monterossa (talk) 11:26, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

@Monterossa - Tidus voice: AAAAH HAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAH, HAAAAAAAH!! Jayking116 (talk) 09:43, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

Lol, love your description. Nomura has a distinct style like that but it doesn't appeal to me massively either. AC uses the same characters and world as FFVII but doesn't feel like the game did, so many people don't really know what to think watching it.
I think Crisis Core is a good example of a FFVII game that "got" the FFVII feel. It is expressed in things like the overall color palette, and stuff like weird jokes and random minigames that may seem a bit "wat" at first but then you realise it is trying to mimic FFVII that had stuff like that. If you go around talking to people bunch of NPCs are having some offbeat dialogues. FFVII was always a little weird under the surface rather than cool and fashionable. FFVII had lots of Kanji art on the backgrounds that has disappeared entirely for the other Compilation entries.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 11:56, May 1, 2015 (UTC)

@Keltainentoukokuu - I agree, you gotta wonder what weird shit Nomura must be smoking when he designs most of these characters. I think the worst character he's ever designed has got to be Tidus. He just looks so stupid with his leaderhosen and his fishnet half shorts and golden gauntlet with a weird fiesta disk on it... But I'm digging the hoodie though! Jayking116 (talk) 09:43, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

i thoroughly enjoyed it, and probably saw it for what it really was. fan service and glorious FMV cutscenes. it was everything that The Spirits Within should have been in my opinion - taking the best bits that people enjoy in FF and making it a watchable experience. The fight scenes were epic, and the camerawork was ingenious as the angles they worked with were novel or not technically possible (with real cameras).. which made it more dramatic lol. it is kinda forgettable tho. then again it has been 10 years.--Arciele Spira (talk) 05:06, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

@Spira Well, that's exactly my problem you see. Everyone else enjoys the characters and the story but I really don't. I find all the characters cardboard cutouts and the story has always been less than riveting in my opinion. Even the action was also surprisingly underwhelming I thought. The characters just seem way to overpowered (except for Tifa, that dumb bitch got her ass handed to her by a Sephiroth clone while Cloud was able to tank on all 3 of them at once. She's about as useful as No Smoking signs in college xD) and by a certain point, it actually felt like I was watching something out of a power rangers episode. And I don't think Vincent got nearly as much screen time as he deserved (the man's a fucking beast! Give him his own movie!) Jayking116 (talk) 09:43, May 4, 2015 (UTC)

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