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Forums: Index > Rin's Travel Agency > Archive > FFBE How to proceed with these pages WARNING: MASSIVE SEASON TWO SPOILERS!!


Greetings people, as of the recent update we have a rather major revelation that will make certain pages difficult to deal with. As disclosed in the title this concerns major spoilers for Season Two story, so before I elaborate any further, please be warned that I shall speak major spoilers here. If you don't care, if you're up to date with story, or regardless still wanna collaborate then I shall speak.

Turns out that Hyoh is Rain after all, and his "death" in an earlier chapter was just Nagi posing as him so Rain could get back into the party without suspicion. There is some story (yet to be revealed in the global version) about how Rain turned into Hyoh, but nonetheless that's not the issue.

The issue is that Hyoh and Rain are the same person but currently exist as different pages. I'm not too familiar with policy but I assume that normally pages are to be merged when this kind of phenomenon happens? Anyway merging them would mean unveiling some major spoilers right off the bat whenever anybody tries to search for Hyoh, so personally I'm against merging the pages (there is precedent with FF13's Odin and the Angel of Valhalla for that matter of keeping alter-egos on separate pages).

If we do keep the pages separate, there is another issue that is important to discuss....Hyoh's voice actor. As we know, Rain's official VA is Nobuhiko Okamoto but here is the problem, unlike the rest of the main cast whose VA was credited via official in-game news (in JPN) and twitter posts (in the Japanese version official account), Hyoh's VA was left completely uncredited (mostly obvious that it was done so to keep the surprise up). So what do we do about this information? Do we put Okamoto as Hyoh's VA or not? Mind you his character profile states that his mask has a voice-changing device, however if you do listen to Limit Burst video he does sound like Okamoto (I know "sounds like" is not a determining factor, at least not by itself, but considering all of the above, it is a whole other issue).

And so given all this........what do we do with these two? --BGMaxie (talk) 02:11, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

So we've finally come to THAT story update. Finally idiots won't bug us anymore with this spoiler!
The story from FFBE is about to change drastically, there's more big spoilers ahead, not as big as this one though, but still big. Prepare yourselves mentally for the Season finale!
Returning with the issue presented I can see why both options are viable. However, I'm more in favor of merging them because, unlike the Gryffin from FFXIV, Hyoh is still at heart Rain, and the future story updates AND Crimson's story event will clarify this. -- Eco (talk) 04:41, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Right now, most of the FFBE character articles are "character" pages, not "unit" pages. If we fully expand FFBE articles and have a page for every single unit, this Rain/Hyoh problem will be solved. It's gonna be a big project though. Monterossa (talk) 06:33, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

The policy is that one page per character even if they have multiple personas/forms, even if it is a spoiler. The infobox can have two images like for Shiva (Final Fantasy XV). The Odin and Angel of Valhalla is interesting though, because Odin's is supposed to be a summon page and the chocobo form isn't one. Maybe there could be some way to merge them.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 15:12, December 28, 2018 (UTC)

Well I have no merging powers that I'm aware about, and so I have really no final say. I've already given my two cents on the issue, so I guess it is up to whoever mod/admin, etc. feels like debating and deciding. I'll try to contribute to the pages as I can regardless of the outcome, but I'd still appreciate a heads up on whatever happens.
Also uhhh, in the event of merging, would it be possible to redirect to the main page by simply linking to Hyoh like this Hyoh? --BGMaxie (talk) 22:30, December 28, 2018 (UTC)
Well someone who knows about Brave Exvius should do the merging to assure the info is right. Which one is the character's "true" name, Rain or Hyoh? Then just need to move the info from the other to the other.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 16:04, December 29, 2018 (UTC)
Copied, edited and extended all the plot-related parts of Hyoh into Rain and placeed them into the Rain page. As such, the Hyoh page can be nuked without consequence. Up to you guys if you wanna add the alternate names, and Hyoh sprite and put them in the main Rain page, but for the most part my job with these two is kinda done. Cheers. --BGMaxie (talk) 20:30, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
If you want anything further from the original Hyoh article then check the history of here.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 21:14, January 3, 2019 (UTC)
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