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Guideline Discussion[]

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It is hard to define what is a notable third party. If something got like millions and millions of views in YouTube without being recognised by a third party, I'd say that could still be notable enough to cover. It's always a bit of a case by case thing.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:00, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

I'd like the official Final Fantasy Superfan contest to have an article and to cover the winner. I don't really care to make it myself though...well, maybe I will make it myself one day!Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 14:02, April 24, 2013 (UTC)

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I agree with the first guideline entirely, and won't bother commenting on the axed third guideline. The second... I'm not wholly against it, nor for. My concern is - like you stated - its our widest guideline, and we'll be putting in a lot of content that isn't strictly... hmm, how do I put this? I know what Siliconera is and read it myself, but is it worth a page on the FFwiki for its occasional posts with FF content? And what would the article say, other than pointing the user to the website, or lifting its content? If we can make it work, then fine, let's do it, but I think it'd require quite a bit of policing. - Paramina (talk) 20:19, May 3, 2013 (UTC)

EDIT: Basically what I'm saying is I'm skeptical of any fandom content on the wiki, tbh, unless it's been recognised by Square or is something like 8bit Theatre. - Paramina (talk) 20:27, May 3, 2013 (UTC)
I just remembered this- Bulbapedia have a Project Fandom area of their wiki- http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Bulbapedia:Project_Fandom - I don't know if we'd like to dedicate any time to something like this, but I'm just throwing it out there as a possible suggestion if we want to be rather loose as to what we cover. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 18:57, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
A possibility, but then the Project would still need guidelines to go by. Drake Clawfang (talk) 19:04, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
It sounds like what we're doing already, just given a name. Our project fandom is Project {{fanmade}}. Unless I'm missing something, what changes would there be? JBed (talk) 19:08, May 4, 2013 (UTC)
I suppose we'd just cover more, and in more detail, and lump it together in a collapsible like we do with general FF games. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 19:24, May 4, 2013 (UTC)

All right, I'll just put myself down as agreeing with the outlines Drake's made. Jimcloud 21:43, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

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Agree with the first and second parts of Drake's guidelines. As for the third, I honestly don't think something like Gametrailer's poorly researched retrospective deserves a page on the wiki any more than Endless Nova (of course, Endless Nova is one of those bizarre fixtures of the wiki that I'd sorta miss in a silly way). I think anything of real worth and merit can be covered in the first two categories: if a third party created something, we should only cover it if other third parties take note. Otherwise, we'd start covering anything Final Fantasy related that any large video game site spits out, which is something I'm assuming we don't want to do. ScatheMote 21:59, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Website Discussion[]

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Final Verdict[]

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VOTING CLOSED[]

Guideline 1[]

Yes
  1. C A T U S E 21:37, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  2. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:02, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  3. ScatheMote 23:27, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  4. Jimcloud 15:28, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
  5. YuanSalut 11:48, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
  6. SidVI 15:38, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
  7. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 20:25, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
No

Guideline 2[]

Yes
  1. C A T U S E 21:37, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  2. --BlueHighwind 22:55, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  3. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:02, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  4. ScatheMote 23:27, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  5. Jimcloud 15:28, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
  6. ShirubaKurono Dissicon ff13 Lig3.png 21:35, July 28, 2013 (UTC)
  7. YuanSalut 11:48, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
  8. SidVI 15:38, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
  9. Tia-LewiseRydia - Young battle.png 20:25, August 2, 2013 (UTC)
No

Guideline 3[]

Yes
  1. Jblancosegura (talk) 14:13, July 30, 2013 (UTC)
No
  1. C A T U S E 21:37, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  2. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 23:02, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  3. ScatheMote 23:27, July 27, 2013 (UTC)
  4. YuanSalut 11:48, July 30, 2013 (UTC)

Phase 2 - Housecleaning[]

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I don't remember what magazine it was, but it was either GamePro, GameInformer, or EGM that actually introduced me to FF Compendium, listing it as an exemplary FF website in an issue of their magazine. It was probably sometime in 2005 or 2006, so that would fall under notability guideline 2. However, if my word isn't good enough, that's fine, because I don't think the wiki should cover any fandom. Additionally, I think GamePro should be added to the list of notable magazines. --107.218.180.38 20:45, July 31, 2013 (UTC)

That'll do, thank you. Drake Clawfang (talk) 20:50, July 31, 2013 (UTC)
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