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{{Yuanchosaan|time=09:15, November 27, 2009 (UTC) |
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− | |text=Greetings, and welcome to yet another of Yuan's guides. Here I will be addressing copyright, an oft overlooked issue on the FF wiki, and one which causes much grief to Wikipedian editors. '''''EVERYONE IS TO READ THIS. This policy is NOT debatable.''''' |
+ | |text=Greetings, and welcome to yet another of Yuan's guides. Here I will be addressing copyright, an oft overlooked issue on the FF wiki, and one which causes much grief to Wikipedian editors. '''''EVERYONE IS TO READ THIS. This policy is NOT debatable.''''' Note that it applies to all images on the wiki, whatever space they may be in. |
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*'''Q: What is copyright?''' |
*'''Q: What is copyright?''' |
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− | *'''A:''' '''Copyright''' refers to a set of laws that have to do with intellectual property, which exist to protect works and their creators. Basically, anything which is created is automatically copyrighted by its author. The author possesses exclusive rights to publish, make copies of and adapt their work and related works. |
+ | *'''A:''' '''Copyright''' refers to a set of laws that have to do with intellectual property, which exist to protect works and their creators. Basically, anything which is created is automatically copyrighted by its author. The author possesses exclusive rights to publish, make copies of and adapt their work and related works. Note that copyright applies to photography, fanart and screenshots. |
*'''Q: Okay, but what does this have to do with Square and the FF wiki?''' |
*'''Q: Okay, but what does this have to do with Square and the FF wiki?''' |
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− | *'''A:''' Everything Square Enix (or any other person or company) creates is under copyright. Since we do not own the copyright, we are by law not permitted to make copies or distribute those works (ie, by uploading it to this wiki). |
+ | *'''A:''' Everything Square Enix (or any other person or company) creates is under copyright. Since we do not own the copyright, we are by law not permitted to make copies or distribute those works (ie, by uploading it to this wiki). |
*'''Q: But wait, doesn't that mean that we won't be able to upload any copyrighted images?''' |
*'''Q: But wait, doesn't that mean that we won't be able to upload any copyrighted images?''' |
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*'''A:''' Ah, but we have a handy thing called '''fair use'''. Because we are a wiki about the ''Final Fantasy'' series, we can claim that any use of FF images falls under fair use. As our aim is to present comprehensive coverage of the FF series and images constitute a form of information, we can argue that these images assist us in achieving our goal. |
*'''A:''' Ah, but we have a handy thing called '''fair use'''. Because we are a wiki about the ''Final Fantasy'' series, we can claim that any use of FF images falls under fair use. As our aim is to present comprehensive coverage of the FF series and images constitute a form of information, we can argue that these images assist us in achieving our goal. |
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*'''A:''' Let's say I'm making an artwork of [[Terra Branford]] for [[User:Faethin|a friend]]. |
*'''A:''' Let's say I'm making an artwork of [[Terra Branford]] for [[User:Faethin|a friend]]. |
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**'''Square Enix''' owns the image and character of Terra Branford. |
**'''Square Enix''' owns the image and character of Terra Branford. |
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− | **I use a pencil and paper to create a completely new image of Terra, in my own style. '''I''' own the copyright to this image. |
+ | **I use a pencil and paper to create a [http://yuanchosaan.deviantart.com/art/Terra-Branford-147903906 completely new image of Terra], in my own style. '''I''' own the copyright to this image. |
**This copyright is separate and distinct from Square's existing copyright. |
**This copyright is separate and distinct from Square's existing copyright. |
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− | **However, if I merely add a caption to a pre-existing image (let's say it's Terra's Dissidia artwork), then I am not transforming it sufficiently, and thus a new work is not created. This is considered to be a breach in copyright, and I do not own a new copyright. |
+ | **However, if I merely add a caption to a pre-existing image (let's say it's Terra's Dissidia artwork), then I am not transforming it sufficiently, and thus a new work is not created. This is considered to be a breach in copyright, and I do not own a new copyright. The same follows for basic collages, which are not allowed on this wiki. |
*'''Q: What images will not be allowed under this?''' |
*'''Q: What images will not be allowed under this?''' |
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*'''A:''' We will not allow any copyrighted image which does not fall into our scope, SE or other wise. All unlicensed user images will be stamped with [[Template:Copyright]] and deleted within the week. |
*'''A:''' We will not allow any copyrighted image which does not fall into our scope, SE or other wise. All unlicensed user images will be stamped with [[Template:Copyright]] and deleted within the week. |
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*'''A:''' We cannot. While the use may seem trivial, the law is the law. |
*'''A:''' We cannot. While the use may seem trivial, the law is the law. |
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*'''Q: I really, really want to use an image on this wiki, but I don't have fair use rationale. Are there any other options for me?''' |
*'''Q: I really, really want to use an image on this wiki, but I don't have fair use rationale. Are there any other options for me?''' |
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− | *'''A:''' Certainly. You can ask for permission to upload it to the wiki. You can use a free alternative, such as creating an image yourself. If this is not feasible, you can use an image hosting site like [http://photobucket.com Photobucket] and link to it. |
+ | *'''A:''' Certainly. You can ask for permission to upload it to the wiki. You can use a free alternative, such as creating an image yourself. If this is not feasible, you can use an image hosting site like [http://photobucket.com Photobucket] and link to it directly (it will show up as an image). If an image is hosted on another wiki, you can link to its direct URL, and it will appear. |
+ | *'''Q: How do I resize an image on another wiki?''' |
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+ | *'''A:''' Go to that wiki and edit a page to include that image at the size you want. Preview your edit, then copy the HTML address for that resized image. |
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+ | *'''Q: Why are my user images being deleted? I want to claim fair use for them.''' |
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+ | *'''A:''' As fair use is primarily for artistic or educational purposes, you will not be able to claim fair use for any copyrighted images in user space, or indeed, for any personal use (including forums, walkthroughs etc). As such, any images of that nature will be deleted. |
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*'''Q: I hate copyright!''' |
*'''Q: I hate copyright!''' |
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*'''A:''' Can't help you there, sorry. Join a copyleft movement or bring it to court, if you like ^^;. |
*'''A:''' Can't help you there, sorry. Join a copyleft movement or bring it to court, if you like ^^;. |
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Finally, I have a few related notes: |
Finally, I have a few related notes: |
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− | *Please, ''please'' read [[ |
+ | *Please, ''please'' read [[Project:File use]], [[Final Fantasy Wiki:Copyrights]], [[Help:Images]] and [[Forum:Image Upload]] before uploading images. Any questions you have may already be answered there. |
*Check for duplicates of the image you are uploading. |
*Check for duplicates of the image you are uploading. |
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*Don't forget to add a license. |
*Don't forget to add a license. |
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==Comments== |
==Comments== |
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+ | {{User:Henryacores/Talk|time=[[User:Henryacores|<font color="darkred">'''Henry'''</font>]][[User Talk: Henryacores|<font color="red">'''acores'''</font>]][http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/User:Henryacores/The_Reviews <font color="darkred">'''^'''</font>] 13:05, November 27, 2009 (UTC)|text= Great guide Yuani :]}} |
{{Xepscern|time=13:19, November 27, 2009 (UTC)|text= |
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It's a great guide, Yuan, but I'm still a bit confused on our policy on non-FF inages. We have a lot of images of things from Chrono Trigger and Kingdom Hearts. I understand having a pic of KH-Vivi, but we have images of Keyblades that don't need to be here. I get having an image of the One-Winged Angel Key, but why do we have a pic of the Guardian Soul? |
It's a great guide, Yuan, but I'm still a bit confused on our policy on non-FF inages. We have a lot of images of things from Chrono Trigger and Kingdom Hearts. I understand having a pic of KH-Vivi, but we have images of Keyblades that don't need to be here. I get having an image of the One-Winged Angel Key, but why do we have a pic of the Guardian Soul? |
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'''EDIT''': I don't know if I was clear. This is what I mean: |
'''EDIT''': I don't know if I was clear. This is what I mean: |
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+ | File:SleepingLion.JPG|Sleeping Lion |
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+ | File:Keyblade-Lionheart.jpg|Lionheart |
File:CH leon.gif|Squall in KH |
File:CH leon.gif|Squall in KH |
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File:Zidane_ref_cloud.jpg|Random screenshot of FFIX |
File:Zidane_ref_cloud.jpg|Random screenshot of FFIX |
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+ | |text=@fuzzymillipede: Yes, those are copyrightable. |
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+ | @Exdeath64: My intention was to be as comprehensive as possible in my answers. If this makes the guide long - well, it's better than it being incomplete.}} |
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+ | {{PM|time=19:57, November 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay, I understand. |
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+ | So...are you good if I use an image if it links to another Wikia? I understand that uploading an image of, let's say Wolverine from ''X-Men'', is bad. What about linking said image from the Marvel Wiki?}} |
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+ | {{ScatheMote|time=20:41, November 30, 2009 (UTC)|text=You can link images from other wikis and Photobucket without penalty.}} |
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+ | {{PM|time=16:07, December 1, 2009 (UTC)|text=Okay, then. And thanks to you, Yuan for the [revival of the] guide.}} |
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+ | {{PM|time=17:19, January 13, 2010 (UTC)|text=One more thing that I just remembered. What about Bulbapedia? The Pokemon Wiki is "vastly inferior to what we'll inevitably find in" Bulbapedia, so can we use that as an exception?}} |
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+ | {{Judge Balthier|time= 03:34, March 8, 2010 (UTC)|text= Ok, I have the gist of it. Just one thing though; how can I adjust a photobucketed image's size?}} |
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+ | {{Yuanchosaan|time=04:11, March 8, 2010 (UTC) |
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+ | |text=@PM: Sorry, no exceptions. |
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+ | @JB: You'll need to do it manually using an image editor, then upload to Photobucket.}} |
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+ | {{Faethin|time=04:17, March 8, 2010 (UTC)|text=Actually, Photobucket allows you to resize an image on its integrated editor. On your album page, click on the image you want to resize. When the image is displayed, hover your pointer over the image and a toolbar should appear. Hover your pointer over "edit" and you'll see the "resize" option.}} |
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+ | {{Judge Balthier|time= I don't need to think! 8D 03:41, March 14, 2010 (UTC)|text= Finally one last question; If I alter an image's size from another wikia that is linked to this wiki, Will the change in the image's size be made to this wikia as well?}} |
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+ | {{ScatheMote|time=04:06, March 14, 2010 (UTC)|text=It's possible, but no one really knew about it until ILHI figured it out. First resize an image, and click preview. Right-click on the image and select "View Image" or something akin to that. Then copy the link, and the image should be bigger or smaller.}} |
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+ | {{xcanox|text= I have a question in regards to the "screenshots" issue.<br />Is the screenshot copyrighted by the owner, or the game developer?<br /><br />Also, if I upload a fanart that I made by myself, do I add the Copyright template and say that I own it?}} |
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+ | {{likeacupcake|time=06:53, November 20, 2010 (UTC)|text=Though you were the one to create it, the image is of copyrighted material, meaning that the copyright still belongs to the game developer. And I think we have a fanart template... don't hold me to that though...}} |
Latest revision as of 04:44, 12 December 2020
Greetings, and welcome to yet another of Yuan's guides. Here I will be addressing copyright, an oft overlooked issue on the FF wiki, and one which causes much grief to Wikipedian editors. EVERYONE IS TO READ THIS. This policy is NOT debatable. Note that it applies to all images on the wiki, whatever space they may be in.
In summary:
Finally, I have a few related notes:
I would like to request that this thread be stickied to the top of Rin's and possibly the other forums, as well as adding an edited version to the Help Portal and a link from the upload form. My thanks to those who struggled through this massive wall of text. Questions? Comments? Criticisms? Please add them below, and I will do my best to address them. | |||
Comments
Henryacores - "É que esta noite vou lançar ao mar/A bruma que houver em mim./Vou beber e cantar este luar/vou dançar até ao fim." TALK - Henryacores^ 13:05, November 27, 2009 (UTC) | |||
Great guide Yuani :] | |||
It's a great guide, Yuan, but I'm still a bit confused on our policy on non-FF inages. We have a lot of images of things from Chrono Trigger and Kingdom Hearts. I understand having a pic of KH-Vivi, but we have images of Keyblades that don't need to be here. I get having an image of the One-Winged Angel Key, but why do we have a pic of the Guardian Soul? EDIT: I don't know if I was clear. This is what I mean: Now, I get having these. They are obviouse refrences of Squall. But why have this image: I don't see why this pic of Crono should be here. | |||
Thanks for the good read, Yuan. | |||
Very informative and a well written Yuan! I hope this solves the fanart and fairuse problems because they are quite a headache to deal with. | |||
@Henry, Pocky and Scathe: My thanks!
@Xepscern: Many of those images were left over from when we gave full coverage to the KH and Chrono series. A lot of them will now have to be deleted. The Lionheart and Sleeping Lion images can stay, as they are references to the FF series. | |||
Chocolancer - あぁもうホントに妬ましい… 汚らわしい… 疎ましい… いやらしい… 鬱陶しい…: TALK - 23:42, November 27, 2009 (UTC)///CL-528 | |||
Finally! I've about had it with keyblade images and KH characters littering our database. We could always link them from KHWiki since we don't need their full coverage anymore, but why keep those two? It's great that Xepscern had mentioned them or else they never would have crossed my mind. Once again, Yuan has proven to be a great teacher. | |||
CL is correct. If an image you wish to link to is present on another Wikia, you can link to it like this:
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8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 02:56, November 28, 2009 (UTC) | |||
Thanks for writing this guide, Yuan! I hope some of my ignorant questions on IRC helped to create the Q & A ^^ I hope this gives everyone advance notice that they may see some of their user images deleted soon due to the absence of fair use rationale. | |||
Thank you very much for the Q & A guide Yuan. Fortunately for me, the only images I use are in the fair use category. I think I only posted one other image besides the image I use on my userpage and my talk bubble guy, but I got that one out of the fair use category too. I don't really know how to use images all that well yet myself but it is good to see a notice like this up so I can always learn more. | |||
8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 06:15, November 28, 2009 (UTC) | |||
Hey, Yuan, about the stickied forum thing, someone on the main wikia IRC helped me. Apparently you need certain code to alter a category called something like Category: Stickied threads, and then just place the forum in that category. He says the code is on this page. Copy the code from the first <table> to the last </table>. Oh, and the code would go on the Rin's Travel Agency main page in the same position as it is on Wikia's Watercooler. We can also make a template that puts a thread in the category, like this template. In the end, the stickied forums look like this. So, we'd like to implement this? | |||
I am a bit confused about how this policy applies to screenshots. Is a screenshot of a random gameplay (not cutscenes) copyrighted by SE? What about a screenshot of a third-party program which is rendering an image of material copyrighted by SE? Examples: | |||
Nice guide, a tad long, but at least its easier to understand then that damn healthcare bill. Exdeath64 19:10, November 28, 2009 (UTC)
@fuzzymillipede: Yes, those are copyrightable.
@Exdeath64: My intention was to be as comprehensive as possible in my answers. If this makes the guide long - well, it's better than it being incomplete. | |||
Okay, I understand. So...are you good if I use an image if it links to another Wikia? I understand that uploading an image of, let's say Wolverine from X-Men, is bad. What about linking said image from the Marvel Wiki? | |||
You can link images from other wikis and Photobucket without penalty. | |||
Okay, then. And thanks to you, Yuan for the [revival of the] guide. | |||
One more thing that I just remembered. What about Bulbapedia? The Pokemon Wiki is "vastly inferior to what we'll inevitably find in" Bulbapedia, so can we use that as an exception? | |||
Judge Balthier - Hamshanks! TALK - 03:34, March 8, 2010 (UTC) "You know what they say about the Leading Man? He never dies." | |||
@PM: Sorry, no exceptions.
@JB: You'll need to do it manually using an image editor, then upload to Photobucket. | |||
Actually, Photobucket allows you to resize an image on its integrated editor. On your album page, click on the image you want to resize. When the image is displayed, hover your pointer over the image and a toolbar should appear. Hover your pointer over "edit" and you'll see the "resize" option. | |||
Judge Balthier - Hamshanks! TALK - I don't need to think! 8D 03:41, March 14, 2010 (UTC) "You know what they say about the Leading Man? He never dies." | |||
It's possible, but no one really knew about it until ILHI figured it out. First resize an image, and click preview. Right-click on the image and select "View Image" or something akin to that. Then copy the link, and the image should be bigger or smaller. | |||
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Likeacupcake - Never are we more free, than when we are confined to the realm of dreams. TALK - 06:53, November 20, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Though you were the one to create it, the image is of copyrighted material, meaning that the copyright still belongs to the game developer. And I think we have a fanart template... don't hold me to that though... | |||