This topic will be primarily for the discussion and updates of the various Bugs and Glitch pages, and as a notification of what may or may not be done on each of them. If anyone has the time to finish these off, feel free to. Also feel free to discuss what to do with each item here. I'm making this topic as to not clutter up all of the other pages and to have it on one big topic.
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Peninsula of Power does not need videos. Videos cramp a page, and it's completely unnecessary. I think people can take our word for it. Watching something move between two areas with two different encounter-sets isn't that interesting. JBed 18:24, April 17, 2012 (UTC)
- I guess that is true with Peninsula, but I disagree that videos are unnecessary. Images alone can't catch some of the stuff that happens, and that's where videos usually come along to take care what images cannot do. Xenomic 05:29, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
So...now I'm not sure or not, but can anyone check to see if any of the FFIV glitches work in the Complete Collection and GBA version? I'm sure SOME don't in the GBA (or they were all already checked), but I have no idea on TCC at all... | |||
I always thought putting videos on this site is a breach of copyright. If that's true, then no article should have videos, even the Bugs and Glitches articles. (though I suppose the Dissidia videos are exempt, since SE gives you the means to create videos of battles onto your PSP) | |||
If the glitch is a port exclusive, I think a video might help out, particularly if there isn't a lot of info on the article itself. | |||
- "I always thought putting videos on this site is a breach of copyright."
Why? It's only illegal if we use copyrighted content. Recording gameplay does not equal copyrighted content. Uploading FMVs and music to YouTube would be a breach (although if it were in a playthrough, I don't think it would be. rules are really odd).
In the end, a video that shows only the glitch is fairuse. JBed 11:52, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Gameplay videos are copyrighted to Square Enix, but you can use copyrighted content within limits, such as non-commercial fair use, or for parody/satire. So you could say comedy-style let's plays you see in YouTube are OK, for example. Wikia is a for-profit website, so none of our content is probably fair use anyway.Keltainentoukokuu 13:00, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
- AFAIAA, gameplay videos aren't completely copyrighted to SE. They can copyright all the elements from the game, but it's the player who controls the character on-screen and chooses what to do at each moment in time. And therefore there's some "player interpretation makes it alright thing" or something.
- Or at least, that's what I was told by someone who (I think) uploaded playthroughs.
- Regardless, videos use the same idea as static images or animated images-- we can use them if it is within fairuse. JBed 13:09, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
- The whole game and the source code and all elements of it are copyrighted to Square Enix, that you're playing it changes nothing as far as I can see. You can still use the video for fair use, such as criticism or parody or news reporting. I think FFWiki would fall under "non-profit educational use" if our use of SE content was considered fair use. Educational sure, non-profit I'm not so sure about; just because we're not making any dough on this doesn't mean no one is.
- Still, it should be quite obvious the copyrights holder here doesn't shun fan made content, and they don't consider it to harm their commercial interests, so I wouldn't fret too much... Any video in YouTube anyone can embed anywhere, that's why there's an option for that. If there was a problem YouTube would be asked to remove it, not us.Keltainentoukokuu 13:30, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm no lawyer, but I'm fairly certain we're helping Square Enix make money; therefore, as long as it's not a blatant violation of copyright, they aren't gonna do anything about us. The only other argument against videos is that they take up too much space; but a video is still just too helpful to turn down, as Tia said. Cat 20:48, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Well let's not get all entitled, but in the end SE are the ones who enforce their own rights. They would file a copyright infringement case with Wikia if there is a problem and then Wikia would remove it. I have seen some SE owned videos having been removed from YouTube because they did this. But if we treat their content nicely and respectfully then it is unlikely there will be a problem. I just feel a bit odd about all the Fair Use copyright templates we slap onto stuff, when I don't believe it applies, but I get why it happens.Keltainentoukokuu 00:09, April 26, 2012 (UTC)
- I'm no lawyer, but I'm fairly certain we're helping Square Enix make money; therefore, as long as it's not a blatant violation of copyright, they aren't gonna do anything about us. The only other argument against videos is that they take up too much space; but a video is still just too helpful to turn down, as Tia said. Cat 20:48, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
- Still, it should be quite obvious the copyrights holder here doesn't shun fan made content, and they don't consider it to harm their commercial interests, so I wouldn't fret too much... Any video in YouTube anyone can embed anywhere, that's why there's an option for that. If there was a problem YouTube would be asked to remove it, not us.Keltainentoukokuu 13:30, April 25, 2012 (UTC)
Need someone who has TCC to check to see if the bugs for FFIV works in that version at all. I don't know if they do (and I don't know if we have all of the bugs listed for which versions either), but would be good to know! Also, thinking of doing DS glitch videos, but not sure how to handle that...dunno if FRAPs or Camstudio would work, or if I'd have to use Desmume's in-recorder which I have no idea how good that is... In other news, will probably get to some glitch videos here soonish as I'm almost out of videos to upload! | |||