Hey all, I would like to make another proposal for a reform prior to the release of VIIR. The goal of this is to bring a reform to our "Creation and development" and "Trivia" sections, as well as to bring an (imo) long-needed reform to
First off, I believe that our "Trivia" sections are much too all-encompassing, whereas "Creation and development" is too limiting. For "Trivia", these sections shouldn't really exist. If information is genuinely trivial, it doesn't belong on the article. If it is actually useful information, it should be in the article itself, and not separated under a "Trivia" header away from the rest of the page. On the other hand, "Creation and development" sections are great, but there's no need to limit them to just that. There's a lot of out-of-universe information that could also be included. Therefore, I propose merging "Trivia" and "Creation and development" to Behind the scenes sections. I believe the name is all-encompassing for any information that is out-of-universe.
The next thing I want to propose is replacing
Thirdly, I would like to propose splitting "Citations" and "References", and drawing a distinction between them, which is more similar to Harvard referencing or what is (albeit inconsistently) done on a lot of Wikipedia pages. I did this on other wikis, successfully, such as on the above example, at w:c:ratchetandclank:Courtney Gears#Citations, w:c:ratchetandclank:Ratchet#Citations, and w:c:ratchetandclank:Pecker#Citations as examples. This looks a lot more professional, and avoids repetition if you're using the same reference multiple times (for instance, different parts of the same video, or different pages in the same Ultimania). Of course, if an article only has about two-three citations, then this isn't needed, but for larger pages (such as game pages, character pages, and the bigger location pages), it would be very beneficial.
To help with the above, we would need separate templates capable of constructing a reference at the bottom of pages, as well as templates capable of constructing citations. This involves the creation of a merged Cite template and a separate Reference template. The latter would be used to construct full references to the relevant book, website, or video. I've made a Lua module that does this already on other wikis, and retains existing functionality to create automated Web Archive links for urls, so we can apply that here with minor tweaks. A Cite template would only be used when citing information from the games themselves. In the above links to example pages, you'll see where I cited script pages, and we can do this here also as well as for information in the games' code. This is just for information found in an obscure part of the game.
Lastly, describing this in a new Project:Verifiability policy page. This would replace the existing Project:Citations and References, which doubles up as a help page; instead, information on this would be described on the template documentation for the new Ref, Cite, and Note templates, or just the Community Central Help pages. I moved over the policy here, again based on what I did on other wikis with tweaks to apply to us; there are no major policy changes, except that I removed references to the idea that information readily available from the games should never be given citations. I feel like it is reasonable to ask to cite which part of the game that the research is found based on. Beyond that, it's an elaborated version of the policy in the existing page.Please let me know your thoughts on this. If anyone requires further examples or etc., I'd be happy to do so.