Forum:Admin nominations

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	Contents 1 User:The Doctor; 2 User:Jack Worthing; 3 Nominations 3.1 Henryacores; 3.2 BlueHighwind; 3.3 JBed; 3.4 Bluestarultor; 3.5 Sorceror Nobody; 3.6 Deadlyslashsword‎; 3.7 Drake Clawfang; 3.8 ScatheMote; 3.9 Jeppo; 3.10 Jimcloud; 3.11 Koharu Nami; ; 4 Comments;

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		Yuan ^翠珊 — 00:32, September 30, 2011 (UTC) "He wants to write a love song / An anthem of forgiving / A manual for living with defeat"



		Please read this thread before you begin, particularly the bottom half. Consider carefully what is being asked of you. The system we are using is as follows: an individual can nominate a person (self-nominations are welcome), giving a reason for their nomination. Others can Support or Oppose this, again giving reasons. If you are neutral on the matter, please don't just state "I'm undecided" - a lack of any statement on your part will be considered neutral. However, you may post a relevant Comment on the candidate's qualities without offering your support or opposition. You don't have to comment on every candidate. This is not a vote. The person(s) with the most supports, or even supports-oppositions, will not necessarily become an admin. We are aiming for three new admins, but that doesn't mean that you are limited to three supports, nor does it mean that necessarily three people will be promoted. Nominees are allowed to support and oppose other nominees. They can also strike themselves from the list if they don't wish to be part of the process. After a while, we'll probably set a closing date. The current admins will discuss their ideas with Diablo, and the final decision is his (barring the sudden reappearance of CSM). Nominations should be formatted in this manner: ===[[User:Nominee]]=== [Reason] - ~~~~ '''Support''': [Reason] - ~~~~ '''Oppose''': [Reason] - ~~~~ '''Comment''': [Comment] - ~~~~ An example of a good nomination and comments: User:The Doctor The Doctor has consistently shown his dedication to preserving all the peaceful races of this galaxy. His experience includes a long tenure, continuing to work despite the lack of support from his own people, and through adversity. His experience against fighting dangerous enemies and being "the janitor of the universe" suggests he will do an excellent job of vandal fighting and clean-up if promoted. - User:Amelia Pond Support: Having worked with The Doctor across many projects, including exterminating the Daleks, exterminating the Cybermen, exterminating the Daleks again, and saving the Ood, I agree with everything Amy has said. I would like to particularly emphasise the way the Doctor is capable of admitting mistakes. When he was most warlike and even comparable to a Dalek, he realised he was wrong and has changed for the better. User:Rose Tyler Comment: I am slightly perturbed by the Doctor's periodically changing nature, and the possibility of this "Valeyard" side appearing. Though he maintains the core heroic, noble self we know, this is a concern. - User:Peri Brown Oppose: I've had contact with The Doctor for an immensely long period, and believe he has many more personality flaws than his nomination would suggest. None can deny the work he has done; however, he is prone to act impulsively and with inherent bias. This spans policy decisions (destroying Harriet Jones career on a whim) and treatment of vandals (trying to save me of all people? After ruining my plans?). - User:The Master Support: On the contrary, I support The Doctor for that reason: he assumes good faith, trying his best to give second chances to good but misguided editors. In addition to his hard work, he demonstrates a leniency which will be helpful as an admin in making judgements. He's a fine fellow, all of them. - User:River Song An example of a bad nomination and comments: User:Jack Worthing Everyone knows why. Do I even need to explain? A fine fellow. - User:Algernon Moncrieff Oppose: I dislike him. - User:Lady Bracknell You should get to know him better, mother. - User:Gwendolen Oppose: Per Lady Bracknell. - User:Cecily Comment: I thought his name was Ernest? - User:Gwendolen No, it's Jack. User:Cecily It's definitely Ernest. I wouldn't support him otherwise. - User:Gwendolen Maybe he changed his name. Or is Bunburying. - User:Algernon Moncrieff I'm sure everyone can refrain from personal attacks and remain civil. For the next three days (from the timestamp on this post), let's stick with nominations only, so we can begin with a level playing field.* You may as well start supporting/opposing/commenting now. A final reminder to remain civil. Note that you are still allowed to nominate during this period.

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		Fëasindë^Talk "Burn the land, boil the sea, you can't take the sky from me." 19:10, October 3, 2011 (UTC)



		I need to remind you guys that this is not a popularity contest nor a vote. Please refrain from adding stuff that would easily be replaced with "I agree with the above". If you have nothing to add to the current input, be it supporting or opposing, please refrain from diving in.

Nominations

Henryacores

Henry's experience outstrips that of nearly all the active users on the wiki. He's been active for a long period, always working hard across multiple areas, particularly item/equipment pages, images, templates and location articles. He is thus well-versed in the policy of those areas, but is also knowledgeable about others - a product of having contributed to the formation of many of them. His experience with clean-up work and administrative tasks, garnered over such an extensive tenure, means that he is already familiar with what tools will be available, and I'm sure he'll put them to good use. His language can be a bit crude and blunt (:p), but he communicates well, is friendly, and helps new users (including, once upon a time, a certain admin). I think it says a lot about him that he wasn't promoted to moderator when he should have been a long time ago, because Diablo thought he already was one. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 00:32, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Support: I think Yuan has hit the nail on the head here. There's not too much I can add but I will say that he does take part in many discussions, some of them really difficult and while all of us can have an opinion, Henryacores backs his up with some strong reasoning. One thing I can say against him is that he does tend to come out with some bad language at times, but this is a bit nitpicky and I'm sure that he would make a fine admin. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: My only, only problem with Henry is that he can be too much of a hothead sometimes. I cannot say I oppose his nomination, but I express my reservations on fully supporting him. I want to point out that, as far as I know, Henry's only major flaw as a contributor is the hastiness with which he addresses certain issues. Should this issue be taken into account by him, he would have my full support. Fëasindë ^{te audio} 20:46, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Henry has been around and active for a long time, and down to nuts and bolts is not bad with new users, but that's down to nuts and bolts. Looking more toward the surface, Henry is often blunt, sometimes to the point of coming off as nasty, and has, in my opinion, overly strong opinions which he unfortunately also acts on without waiting up for others. There's nothing to say Henry is a bad person. He just comes on too strong in many cases, and speaking from when I was new around here, I avoided dealing with him because of it. Bluestarultor ^BSA 00:32, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Henreh is a very prolific editor and knows a lot about games not many others do, not to mention his variety of specialties and willingness to do almost everything needed of him. And he's never been too mean to me... --Shiruba Kurono 23:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I've never known Henry's persona to ever cause any sort of lasting problems. He is one of the most knowledgeable and experienced non-admins we have, his consistent excellent work and activity over the years gives me no hesitation to throw him my support. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 00:17, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

BlueHighwind

I'm not trying to mock this decision or anything, I just wanted to throw my hat in. Because its me, you know me. I've been here since before many of you were born, I don't edit much these days, and honestly, I never plan to restart. There's no time anymore, I'm halfway an adult now. I have no intentions to involve myself in Wiki affairs beyond the IRC again - I learned my lesson last year with MMII. I just always wanted this. I'd say it would be more of an honorable "Lifetime Achievement" or something. Please? (I'm betting everybody will just ignore this, whatever.) --BlueHighwind 02:04, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

JBed

I'm just going to put loads of comments for the administration team to decide whether they're positive or not because it displays things easier. I don't imagine this is how I'm supposed to do it, and you can convert it into an intro if you want. Blegh. Also, I'm sure most of you know I edit under a magnificent number of IPs, and I can track my most recent ones down if you would like me too to see my recent editing activity.

I clearly care about how the wiki functions, and am always willing to discuss changes that can be made. Evidence: Special:Editcount/ILHI--My original account (which was active for slightly less than two years) has the highest number of Talk page edits of all users. The user with the second highest number of Talk page edits has ~100 less in just over four years activity.

I live in the UK. This means I'm on GMT... or is it BST? idk. It means I'm on at times when perhaps the US staff are not.

I have four entire days off a week and nothing to do on them. Which means I end up being here. And on the days where I am busy, I usually then end up spending my afternoons and evenings on the wiki too. Wow. I'm sad. Which is good for the wiki. I shall have four free days a week for the next two years, so I should be able to sustain this level of activity for a while.

I have a good understanding of CSS, in addition to a small understanding of JS. I also regularly deal with CSS on the wiki, and would deal with it more but the hassle to go through an admin first makes me hesitate. Evidence: It is because of me the CSS class system for games is used. (e.g. "FFIa").

I have a great understanding of everything MediaWiki. I work a lot with the templates. Evidence: The multi Enemies templates (I have worked a lot with most enemy templates in fact). I created and continue to develop the {{Gallery}} template which is now in wide use. Regularly used utility templates, {{A}}, and {{SL}} were added to the wiki by me.

I work with images, and have worked with making them transparent and reuploading as png. I also made everyone aware that png is superior with resizing/transparency in the first place. This is important because every time I have done this I have had to go through an admin to have the images deleted.

I do "WikiGnome" tasks, and am the self-titled "fastest-linker" (in terms of link replacing), and have earned the title "Chief WikiGnome" which was passed down to me. This means the tedious housekeeping/maintenance parts of adminship are fine with me.

I am familiar with most of the policies the wiki uses, perhaps all. This is mainly due to me contributing to many of them. I also have shown work in all categorisations of article. I spend least time in Locations (although I once proposed an overhaul to the layout which I believe was accepted but never followed-through) and Characters (which are practically complete anyway).

I flame less than I once did, and am far calmer in my opinion. I considered my former attitude so much of a problem that I abandoned an entire account so I could start anew. That just shows how much I considered it a problem.

I can write articles. Example: Battle, Limit (Final Fantasy VII). I really don't know if this will get me any positive admin-points. If it does, you should invite me to analyse every edit I've ever made.

I use Oasis. Just thought I'd add. I also check how things view in monobook (most of the time) to cater for Oasis but not sacrifice monobook.

Oh, and I have been the admin of other wikis in the past, so I know how to do things. You may want to question how committed I would be to an admin post considering I abandoned previous admin-posts. My rebuttal is that I'm still on the wiki after such a long time and not-so-good times. My commitment to this wiki is ridiculous. Looks like I'll be here for a while. (15:54, September 30, 2011 (UTC))

Also, one thing I forgot to mention was my entire lack of involvement with the community. I don't see this as a drawback. Instead of spending time writing a collab/fanfic, or whatever the crazy kids are doing these days, I have my eyes on RC, or making a useful edit (while watching RC). Furthermore, this also means I don't sit down and socialise with people and therefore, in theory, less biased.

This ended up longer than it was meant to be. I tried to keep it to things that make me stand out, and also removing any thought that I have shortfalls. That's another thing for the list. I'm an all-rounder. JBed 22:11, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Support: JBed has already gone over most of the reasons to support his adminship, but when it comes down to it, his expertise with the wiki's history of coding, policy, and maintenance, as well as the initiative he takes when working on one of these fields, makes him all-around an extremely competent (if not wall of texty ;))person and stellar choice for an admin in my opinion. 8 bit 18:03, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I have nothing but respect for Jonny as an editor. He has repeatedly proven to be one of our very best contributors. However, I feel he has yet to overcome his history of personal problems, both with other users as well as with himself: whenever I read something Jonny writes, I sometimes cannot, not yet, shake the feeling of aloofness toward others and their input. This is not helped by the fact that he still has trouble (in the sense of the organisation of his thoughts and the transcribing of his ideas) with communicating his opinions; while the improvement over the last few months is quite apparent, I believe there is still room for much more. Finally, I can still recall how utterly stressed Jonny, under the infamous guise of ILHI, became over matters, sometimes quite trivial, pertaining the Wiki; this is tied to the the personal problems I mentioned (with which I do not presume being familiar and therefore on which I make no judgement). Fëasindë ^{te audio} 19:49, September 30, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: First off, I think that you are the best wiki coder on the entire wiki, bar none. There is also no question that you are one of the biggest contributor to this wiki, and you have certainly been active for a long time. If those are the only three qualities of an administrator, you'd would've become one ages ago. Unfortunately I can't support you because I don't think you have the tolerance that an admin needs. During discussions you force your opinions a bit too much on other users and on a few occasions (even recently on the now deleted Perfect article) you took it to yourself to change the article to your liking even though the discussion hadn't come to a close and despite the majority of users disagreeing with you. I just think that you sometimes don't take other members' opinions into account and I fear that if you were made an admin you would make too many rash decisions. This is, of course, my opinion. And if you are made into an admin, I hope for the sake of the wiki that you make me eat my words. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: As has already been stated, no one can call into question the quality or quantity of work you've done for us JBed, you're easily the most experienced user here. However, your mindset is discomforting. In the past you have indicated that you actively hate the Wiki and don't want to be here but cannot stay away, and that is not the type of attitude an Admin needs. You can also be very difficult to debate with, jokes about walls of text aside, and you have trouble weighing both sides in a split discussion because you believe your own side is the correct one. For that reason, why you are certainly qualified to be an Admin in terms of contributions, your attitude is very lacking. I will also put forth that if you are given the position, that we require you to use your account and stop editing as an anon. I do not know the circumstances under which you abandoned the ILHI account but that's fine, the JBed account will do, but if you accept this position you should be upfront with your identity from now on. Doreiku Kuroofangu 11:59, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Let me just say I hold a great deal of respect for you, JBed. You're an amazing coder with a long history on the wiki. That said, I think making you an admin is like giving a pair of jump leads to a masochist. You know it's only going to hurt him in the end. I know all too well what it's like to have a bad reputation at and bad feelings about a place and still somehow not be able to leave. I stayed at a place like that for three years and was miserable for in excess of two of them. The thing is I finally got out. It took a lot, but it happened. In essence, this is absolutely nothing against you or all you've done. It's really more concern for a person in a situation I know all too well from experience. I don't mean to sound patronizing, but I just can't justify giving someone those jump leads when I know what it's like to be the guy asking for them. Because by God I asked for them and in hindsight I'm glad I also had people respectfully say it wasn't a good idea. It's not that you don't have the right stuff. Maybe sometime in the future things will be different and better. It's just not the right conditions right now with how you feel about this place. Bluestarultor ^BSA 01:10, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Erm.. I have to admit I'm not a particularly active or old member of this wiki but there are many things that I can see from whats already around and the edit histories and so on. Unfortunately if I may be blunt about this.. I can only say that you appear to be a great coder, but are also particularly unstable.. and I feel that admins need to be dependable.. so I'm going to put my voice here to be heard.--Spira 18:13, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: I just wanted to comment on this. Obviously no newer user know who I am and all old users associate me with "wiki editor driven to insanity".
I don't believe I have any personal problems with other users. I'm blunt and to the point in everything I do, and I make judgements based on the discussion at hand, not who said it.
With regards to the Perfect article, that is not how I would normally act, and I can explain why I acted that way in that situation externally if you wish. I don't think it should be looked at as "this is how I am now". I take all user's opinions into account, usually just before I state the reasons I wouldn't agree. You can say I put other's opinions down, but I only talk if I have an opinion so I do have a strong opinion that may oppose someone else's. I probably sound like a dick saying this, but there it is. I don't force people to my way of thinking, I try to convince them otherwise by countering their ideas. I've never then implemented things against consensus. I wait for admin intervention. There's no point being silent until a decision is made.
Regarding how I declared "hate" for the wiki: My previous hate were two "hates". The hate for the content of the wiki, which I still agree with. I see the flaws and rooms for improvement and flag and discuss, or fix them myself. The other hate is how the wiki is my life. I still don't like the fact my life is the FFWiki, but I've grown to live with it (despite the joke here and there) and am somewhat satisfied with editing here.
I will only stick with an account if it has SysOp rights. I'd also like to add, that if I was graced with SysOp rights and I felt I was being stressed and didn't like where I was going, I would resign immediately. I know how I felt at the end of ILHI's account. I've made changes, I'm back, and I think I can do this. But I won't let me sabotage my own life.
To those who think I'd just enforce anything. If I did that I wouldn't have so many talk edits. If I were SysOp, the first things I'd do over the first months is likely make a series of forum pages to clarify the community's opinions on certain policies, and get them MoSd. I still want consensus but I do have an opinion of my own. I can separate my own opinion if I had to decide on consensus, and if I were admin, well, there'd be other admins to go too if anyone were to disagree with how I deal with a situation if it were to crop up.
But mainly, I think it's understandable, but not entirely fair that my name is forever tarnished because of some of the (serious) problems I once had (and don't still have, or at least not as much). The wiki clearly isn't afraid to say I'm the best at this and done the most that. If you overlook some of the problems, I am ideal for admin. It's what I'm made for. My presence on most discussions on this wiki shows that. JBed 20:13, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Bluestarultor

I'll be honest: I never got used to the idea of being taken seriously for an admin position last time, but the show of support still means a lot and I definitely would like the job. I think I would do well in it and I'd be elated to be able to do that for a community that cares.

For the things I have to offer, I use Oasis nearly exclusively, but also test things in Monobook. My focus is on what the outside world sees, but not at the total expense of much of the internal community. I know CSS and Javascript and can write custom code for the wiki, even implementing different items on different skins.

I'm patient with new users and understand people make mistakes, but I also recognize there's a threshold after which things should not be tolerated. I also know that some things need review before a decision can be made. I can handle angry users easily and anything anyone could throw at me rolls right off my back.

I can't promise that I'll be on as much as some of the other candidates due to work, but I feel that I have something to offer the wiki. I can't say I should be a primary choice, but if we're adding more than one, I think I should be considered for a secondary one. Bluestarultor ^BSA 02:02, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Support: Bluestarultor shows a fantastic ability to use Wiki code, and is more than capable of dealing with any problem concerning CSS, JS or any other form of coding there is. He is sensible, patient and always willing to help. Sid VI 07:43, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Support: You have demonstrated that you are a good coder and I am impressed with what you say you will do if you become an admin. A lot of people think that the admin is just about telling people off or banning vandals, but you also need to know a lot about coding as well to handle the back end of the wiki. It's also a bonus that you are also good with new members of the wiki and take part in discussions. You aren't a moderator though which does surprise me somewhat. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: An excellent coder, very active and easily reachable, and your work with Oasis is very helpful since I'll wager much of our userbase, including myself, use Monobook and are unaware of how the site looks to anon viewers. Doreiku Kuroofangu 12:03, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Bluestar is level-headed, willing to listen to feedback, but isn't a pushover and seems resistant to peer-pressure. Is around frequently and is a known member in the community. That he is still willing to work with the wiki despite often being busy irl shows he is committed.Keltainentoukokuu 14:50, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: While it is abundantly clear that JBed would be an excellent candidate on his contributions and abilities, his personal issues are... well, an issue, as has been mentioned to death already. Nonetheless, we need an admin who is highly coding-competent in both wikimarkup and CSS/JS, and I cannot think of anyone who has demonstrated this ability more than Bluesey. On top of that, add in his approachability, patience, work ethic, good humour (always helps!), willingness to contribute extensively to discussions, knowing where to draw the line (in multiple contexts)... and the fact that it might also go some way towards remedying a few common misconceptions about what exactly adminship means, which while not a good reason in itself, would certainly be a bonus -- Sorceror Nobody 17:21, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I am sorry to say that I have not had the pleasure of talking to Blue much, except in recent months, so I was worried my opinion was slanted. However, I can see from the above support comments that this is not the case. Good luck Blue! Like acup cake 00:13, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Much like everyone else has said, Bluesey is great with all sorts of coding, very friendly, and very active. I'm sure he'd make a great admin and help out a lot, especially since many users don't use Oasis as much as Monobook. < Kamikaze Pardee > 17:53, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Yeah, pretty much what everybody said. Good with Oasis, good with codes, and good with new users. I've got a vote for the Bluestar~ --Shiruba Kurono 23:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Sorceror Nobody

SN is often on and is used to dealing with users. He's a good coder and has leadership and management capability as shown by his small army of l'Cie. He's also in general a sensible guy. When it comes to wiki code, he's one of the best sources of complex logic the wiki has to offer. He's shown himself to be consistently especially good with new users, able to say no without making tempers flare and balancing friendliness with firmness when it's called for. He has a lot of respect in the community and would be a good choice. Bluestarultor ^BSA 02:20, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Support: SN is great in all fields of coding and Wiki policy, and shows himself to be always capable at the task at hand. He knows the policies of any Wiki due to his past experiences, and is always helpful towards anyone who needs it. His leadership capabilities are shown with his l'Cie, which due to the respect he commands in the community, has become far more serious than ever intended. Sid VI 07:43, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Support: SN has proven time and again to be able to respond to newcomer's questions without contempt or impatience, he thinks about changes in terms of where they will lead the wiki, and is more than happy to help in almost any situation. All around, I can find no reason to oppose. Like acup cake 00:41, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: For the same reasons I mentioned with Bluestarultor. SN and Blue are both very similar in terms of what they do for the wiki. I would be happy if either one of you become an admin, but I can't see both of you being promoted together because you both are so similar. The current admins have a really tough decision to make. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Not to take anything away from him, by all means everything said above is true, but I do feel most of these qualities are found in other nominees with more experience and time, and what SN has going for him now isn't quite enough to make the giant leap from regular user to administrator. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 16:29, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: DSS has said much of what my own view is, insofar as whatever my positive traits are, I don't necessarily stand out in any of them as much as others do. Nonetheless, I maintain my perfect willingness to accept if it is offered -- Sorceror Nobody 17:04, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I'll be honest, I've always really looked up to SN. He has great leadership skills on top of being excellent with other users and doing very impressive things with wiki code. I really can't find any reason to remain indifferent in supporting him because I know he's put a lot of work into this wiki and often goes above and beyond to do so. < Kamikaze Pardee > 17:58, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I simply don't think SN has done enough work around the wiki, particularly in the main spaces: articles, and the images, categories and templates associated with them. Because of that, I doubt that he has the experience to help others in those areas, nor does he have a great familiarity with the wiki policy involved. I can't see how admin tools will assist him in doing what he already does, and his current editing patterns don't suggest that he'll find much use for them. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 23:23, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: While I'm on the fence about whether or not SN is admin material, I somewhat agree that his contribution level isn't on par with other candidates, so...yeah. --Shiruba Kurono 23:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Deadlyslashsword‎

Being honest here, right off the top - I don't use Oasis all the time, I don't live in Europe, and I'm not a coding wizard, but that's about all I'm not. I am indeed here, active, for the majority of my time every day of the week when I'm not at school, work, or sleeping. I'm a dependable, honest, levelheaded guy who is easy to approach, active in discussions, and cool under pressure. I've only been a member of the staff for a few months, but my overall experience doesn't reflect that; I've been an active contributing member since the summer of 2008. I know our policies with a high degree of familiarity, and I edit across all areas of the wiki; Besides often gnoming, I've created enemy templates, weapons and armor lists, character and music pages, location pages, miscellaneous pages, etc., mostly in the realm of the less popular sub-series and spinoffs, as I consider that my specialty area. I also do have experience as an administrator, as I adopted an abandoned wikia a few months back.

I humbly look forward to your comments. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 03:36, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Support: You are in a similar vein to Henryacores. A long time active member, takes part in plenty of discussions and are well respected on the wiki. I also like the fact you have admin experience. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: There is absolutely no rule that says one must be a mod before one can be an admin. More to the point, in what way has "no one has mention DSS to be Admin"? He has been explicitly supported already by Jeppo, and I would not be surprised if he also has more supporters who have simply not spoken up yet. Without wishing to sound demanding or hostile, I do query whether you have a constructive point to add -- Sorceror Nobody 18:02, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Whilst DSS is undeniably competent, I must express reservations about his personality. I have personally gotten a feeling of aloofness and general disdain from him; I have checked with a few other users, and I am not the only one who has picked up on this. In relation to NZX's comment, I completely agree with SN; you will find that there is no suggestion that becoming an Admin is based purely on tenure. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.png 18:23, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I'll be blunt. DSS might be an excellent contributor to the Wiki and his position as a mod is a badge he should wear as a token of that excellence, but, on more personal matters, he is uptight to the point of being irrational. I understand that not all of us have the same amount and variety of a sense of humour, but DSS is always trying way too hard to be no-nonsense kind of guy. I find this attitude to be completely inadequate for dealing with other users. I have also found that, whenever possible, he tries to force his views onto people when he feels he no longer has control over a situation. Fëasindë ^{te audio} 20:58, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: I didn't want to comment on this, but I feel a need to. I don't want newer users to get the wrong impression about me, about who I am and how I work here. To be blunt, certain statements above don't represent the entire truth, and are subject to bias. In honesty, they were left by two users who have had disagreements with me in the past, and while I certainly don't feel they are slanderous or meant to cause harm, the disagreements in question were months ago and completely unrelated to the wiki. I feel the root of all of this is because, despite the length of time I've spent here, most users don't really know me, and for that I place the blame solely on myself. To be honest, I'm just shy. Afraid of being judged. There was once a time where I frequented the IRC and the fora, but frequent comments about my interests and disinterests ("What do you mean you don't like Kain? Are you retarded?") have prompted a certain level of seclusion from that sector. Whenever I get into a talk page discussion about such and such a topic, it's only after I spend minutes revising my text making sure I don't say the wrong thing, or anything that might be misconstrued. Even then it still happens. I've never forced my views upon anyone here for that reason. It may come off as being cold and distant, and even by relation perhaps a bit disdainful, but nothing could be farther from the truth. I'm not playing the victim card, I'm the only one who has hurt me here, but being outgoing and personable aren't personality traits everyone has. Does that mean I'll shy away from participating in discussions? Absolutely not. If I feel strongly a certain way about a subject I'll make my opinion known, because keeping quiet doesn't promote progress, and in the end, I care for this place and I want it to be the best it can be. After all, I do still have my knowledge, logic, and rationality. I apologize to those I've made feel wary about me because of my reclusiveness, I apologize it's been misunderstood as it has, and I apologize that I've been unable to get to know newer users. I do plan to change that, regardless of promotion or non-promotion. You'll see I'm just the quiet guy in the back of the room who is indeed kind and friendly once you get to know him. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 00:02, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Honestly, DSS is a great guy. He's an awesome editor, has been around since forever, and, in my experience, is a pleasant and sensible person to talk to. He'd never hurt a fly, and I respect him for that, not to mention his contributions. --Shiruba Kurono 23:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Drake Clawfang

Drake been a long time mod and has done more for this wiki, to VI and Dissidia pages, to walkthroughs and ton images uploaded and improve, and he's active almost all the time. I believe it time for him admin. (Reposted by 8 bit 07:59, October 1, 2011 (UTC))

Support: Drake is consistently great throughout. 8 walkthroughs (plus 2 FAQ guides) and his amazing ability to be on here, or at least the IRC, at all times make him the best candidate for the position. Xepscern 01:07, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: I'm not entirely convinced that Drake wants to be an admin. I know he said yes on the admin discussion thread but I don't want to thrust the admin position on him if he doesn't really want it. If Drake does become an admin it means that there will be a lot of people (particularly new users) wanting help from him and I'm not sure he's ready for that responsibility yet. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Do I actively pursue the position? No. But I would accept it were it offered. I am not a good judge of my own character, for better or worse, and it is the community that has called for a new Admin, they know the type of person they want, and if the decision is that I fit that description, then I'll accept. As for helping offers, I'm fine with it. Doreiku Kuroofangu 11:54, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Drake Clawfang has all the qualities of an admin. But he has previously denied the post and has sounded only reluctant to take it. I doubt someone who isn't so enthused to be given admin rights, is going to be so enthused to use them. JBed 17:28, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: I've already addressed my reluctance now and in the past. And if you guys give me the powers, of course I'll use them. For one thing, the other Admins wouldn't need to clean up after me in the wake of an image-replacing spree anymore. Doreiku Kuroofangu 17:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Drake has been shown to willingly open his mind on topics and is willing to compromise to reach an agreement between both groups that could both potentially be right. But he's also always looking for facts, and puts forth work of quality as well as quantity, a rare breed. while I understand Drake's reluctance, and some flaws, however I still think he would be a great Admin. Razordash21:12, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: One reason I may hesitate to support Drake is his lack of patience of other user's I've seen. I did expect to find something on his talk page or recent contributions, but did not. This may suggest he has overcome this. 79.69.196.69 21:26, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I would support Drake, bar one reason: He is not whole heartedly willing to take up the role. If an admin is even slightly reluctant to take up the mantle, I can't say that I can support them whole heartedly. Like acup cake 00:15, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Is this gonna have to be a thing, where I have to repost "I will accept the position if it is offered" every single time someone opposes my promotion because they think I won't? Doreiku Kuroofangu 00:21, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
- Comment:I don't think you understand me. I know you will accept it if offered, I know you'll do your job if its handed to you, but your attitude tells me you would rather not be in this possition. If I'm going to support a leader, the leader needs to be wholely supporting themsellves, not just if others want them to. Like acup cake 00:26, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
  - Comment LaCC, you see me on the IRC, to coin a phrase I'd hope you know I don't bullshit around. If I didn't want to be Admin, I'd say so. The reasons I'm not that enthusiastic about the idea are simple - I don't believe Admin tools will greatly enhance my editing work, and much like last time it's probable that all this will result in no one getting promoted anyway. Also I'm leaving this as an anon via Google Chrome since for some reason Firefox won't load the Wiki and I'm too lazy to sign in. Doreiku Kuroofangu 00:44, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I know Drake well enough to know he'd do a fine job. I assumed he was already an admin for a long time after coming here because he already acts the part. His self-deprecation should not be held against him. In fact, one could consider it an asset in that he's unlikely to get a big head from getting the position. Yes, Drake occasionally gets impatient, but never with new users. He bends over backwards for them and is incredibly patient. No, Drake really only gets impatient when there's technobabble or drama involved. He's fine with stuff he understands and only has issues when people beat around the bush explaining something to him or otherwise are creating an unnecessary fuss. Short of that, he's an excellent candidate who can deal with most users better than many. Bluestarultor ^BSA 00:47, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I don't think I can say much else that hasn't already been said. To be honest, when first joining and getting more involved on the wiki, I thought Drake was already an admin. All he has done for the wiki; edits, uploading pictures, creating walkthroughs, sorting out good edits from bad, seems like he is long overdue for an admin spot. And I think one of his best qualities is his no-bull attitude - being able to be blunt and decisive when need be, especially when reverting edits or updating image quality. I know being an admin won't change much for him, considering he's already done so much for this wiki. < Kamikaze Pardee > 17:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

ScatheMote

I'll start with some of (what I think to be) my negatives. While this sounds like a bad idea for someone trying to win adminship, I want whoever is voting to get an idea of what I can't do before I move on to what I can do. Sometimes I'm not great at following up on promises or tasks that I put before myself, and I'm not on UTC time. I sometimes am forced to take random wikibreaks, and I'm not very literate in CSS (though I have made some stuff with it).

On the other hand, I can write both content articles and gnome, though I tend to wikignome a bit more. I try my best to stay level headed, and I always try to assume good faith when dealing with new users. Regardless of how much of a pain it can be, I always try to help new users with whatever problems that are currently ailing them. I am on everyday (though not on as much as some of the other candidates here), and I tend to watch RC to see if any changes are necessary. I will respond to messages on my talk page ASAP, and I watch the forums regarding wiki policy. I think I'm an acceptable coder, though I'm not at the level of Bluesy or JBed, and I've reformatted several pages (most notably several of the weapons and armor pages). I know the MoS fairly well, and I try my best to reformat new pages to fit it. I am/was the admin of Sardapedia for a long time, so I have previous adminship experience. I've helped create wiki policies, most notably the ones involving the current categorization system and licensing. I've uploaded, categorized, and licensed a large amount of images for the wiki, and I currently run the wiki's photobucket account.

So that's my block of text. I wish good luck to everyone running. ScatheMote 13:49, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Support: Scathe is as reliable as the tide. He is fairly knowledgeable in matters of our policy and style. He is quick to respond to vandalism and knows quite well the difference between a bad faith edit and a mistake. He is balanced and neutral and I always find his input to be filled with the objectiveness of a polished window. His past experience as an admin of the hilarious Sardapedia means that he's savvy in terms of dealing with people, both contributors and troublemakers. Scathe is also good with writing and maintaining articles. Overall, I appreciate very much the calm and rational way in which he always expresses his views. Fëasindë ^{te audio} 21:17, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: Scathe is quite simply a nice person, and I feel that this, combined with his dedication and knowledge, makes him a very good candidate for a SysOp role. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.png 21:44, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: A quiet, hard-working individual. Scathe possesses maturity and calm beyond his years; I have never seen him lose his head against vandals or during policy discussions, including the many policy discussions he has participated in. Most prominent is, of course, the successful move to Sardapedia, which he headed. He is active across multiple areas including images and categories, and I'm sure he will use this experience to help others. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 23:26, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: In my experience working with Scathe, while he sometimes takes huge leaves of absences and doesn't always have the best work ethic *coughchronocrosstechscough*, he gets done what needs to be done and doesn't afraid of anything. Not to mention his knowledge with obscure and lesser known games, like Henry. Yeah, I'm all for you, Scathey. And he did get those CC images in...eventually... --Shiruba Kurono 23:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)

Jeppo

I have thought very hard whether or not to put my hat into the ring, as they say, but after much thought over the last week or so, I figured that I should throw my hat in and let other people decide whether or not I am worthy to be admin.

I'll start with my good points. I've been at this wiki for three years, which is a long time. Throughout this period the wiki (and to a broader extent, Wikia) has undergone some major changes. I like to think I have done my bit during that time. One of my major contributions was working on the wiki's enemy pages and, more specifically, enemy infoboxes, the biggest change of which was adding the elemental affinities table in each infobox. I've also worked with Drake in designing and creating the Dissidia Storyline articles (that was a real bugger to code as well!) and I do know a bit of CSS and HTML. I also know the Manual of Style very well and it has always been my pleasure to help new users in finding their feet in the new wiki. I've also contributed to many policy discussions, I use the new wikia skin and whenever I take on a big project that could potentially make a large change to the wiki, I always discuss it with the other wiki users first.

I can't say I have much admin experience before. My only experience in this field was being an admin on a busy forum, and forums are very different than a big wiki. I am also more of a recent patroller recently than anything else as I haven't taken on any big projects as of late. However I still visit the wiki every day, although I don't always make edits everyday and I'm also active on that elusive UTC/GMT/BST timezone.

Being a young man of 23 years, I do have a calm head on my shoulders and I always think of any potential consequences before doing anything drastic (such as undoing other user's edits) and if I do become an admin, my mindset will never change.

Thank you for reading my pitch, and I love to hear your comments, supports and opposes! Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 14:37, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Support: Would be useful to have an admin who is on during the Euro timezone. Is good with new users and very patient, knows the mos inside and out, is definitely a team-player and easy to work with.Keltainentoukokuu 15:00, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I believe that Jeppo is the best nominee for adminship. He has repeatedly (and always by his initiation) had conversations with me about policies relating to the MoS or new templates, and I've seen many other instances where he actively contributes to or begins forums on policy and coding. I always get the sense of a competent and unpretentious editor who is very open to advice and discussion yet confident in how he does work. Like a boss. The Euro time zone thing I see as a bonus, but in wiki security terms extremely useful. 8 bit 03:04, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Jimcloud

So, I've decided to add myself to the list of candidates applying for the admin position. I am good at both adding to articles and gnoming as necessary, I am competent, if not skilled, with coding, and I have experience with a wide variety of games in the Final Fantasy series, most notably XI and XIV. I am and have been interested in and devoted to the series, which helps me keep interest in the Wiki and its information. I am often on for long periods of time, which means I'll be here if someone needs help with vandals or general maintenance. I am friendly, approachable and helpful, and I am level-headed when it comes to Wiki matters. Jim clo ud 15:04, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose: As much as Jim Kid is a friend to me, I'm unsure how well she would do as an admin. This is due to one main reason: She hasn't been on the wiki particularly long. While she is quick to learn, works well and gets along with people (not to mention her "sleeping" patterns), I'm just not sure she is ready to take a leadership position. Like acup cake 00:41, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: Yeah, you need about another year or two experience on the wiki, as Likeacupcake says. ~~I have no qualms about you becoming a moderator as~~ you have done a brilliant job at the wiki so far, and I'm sure you will become a great admin someday, but it's too early to say at the moment. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Er... you do know I already am a moderator, right? Jim clo ud 12:44, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
- Comment: Do we need to remind you of the precise position moderators occupy in the food chain of this wiki? (I'll give you a hint, it's not too high) Like acup cake 13:57, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  - Comment: No, you misunderstand, I was talking to Jeppo, who said "I have no qualms about you becoming a moderator", like he thought I wasn't one >_> Jim clo ud 14:03, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
  - Comment:Oh... crap. Sorry! Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 14:32, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: JC is highly personable, and would be an excellent user to have in a position of prominence. In relation to the above comments on tenure, I do not feel that this limits JC’s suitability for a SysOp role; really, if that is all that you have to oppose her with, I feel that it further reinforces just what an exceptional candidate she is. http://i1176.photobucket.com/albums/x333/KujaFFIX/2ea674f6.png 21:44, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Support: She may not have as much experience as others candidates do, but she is one of the most dedicated users I've seen in my short time here. She is very knowledgeable about almost the entire series and barring any unforseen circumstances, is one of the most consistent users. Not to mention she's one of the nicest people here. I fully support her. MystRay 01:44, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: In all my dealings with her, even well before Mod status, she has always remained tactful in the way she communicates with me and a lot of others I've seen. She's also amicable, and I feel this kind of EQ suits her well for an admin role. JC also impresses me because she really does focus on work on the main and is pretty professional about it. Community stuff is nice and all, but I feel like some other mods do spend too much time on frivolous talk/fun stuff that don't really enhance the wiki proper. Also, as one of the only other people who care about XI and to a lesser extent XIV articles, I really feel that having an admin with whom I can work with that understands XI well really helps. With all due respect to TA, she isn't the XI specialist that people make her out to be - or even if she is, isn't active in that respect at all. I don't want to brag but as someone who is well-reputed in the international XI community and also one of it's resident graphic data miners I am grateful that there is actually someone in this wiki who can follow what I'm doing because she knows where I'm coming from. --Spira 18:47, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Support: While sometimes I'm not sure just how I feel about Jimmeh, I have to admit she's an awesome editor with an amazing work ethic, and is pretty popular to boot. She knows a lot about FFXI, which almost no other editor plays (or at least contributes to on the wiki), and most other games to boot. She's always on, and...yeah, that's all I've got. Go Jimmeh. --Shiruba Kurono 23:42, October 4, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I do not doubt the work ethic nor the enthusiasm of Jim; she's done as much work in a tiny amount of time as I've ever seen here. What I do doubt is her readiness. Her overall experience is lacking due to her relatively short period of time with us, nor am I certain about how thorough her knowledge of all of our policies are. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 00:17, October 5, 2011 (UTC)
Support: I've been dithering over this for a while, changing my mind several times. It's true that you've only been active for a short period; however, in that time, you've been extremely active and have shown a keen interest in both editing the mainspace and administrative work (primarily AfD's - which, I might add, is the reason for your smaller edit count, as those edits are wiped from the database). Your weakest point is your lack of knowledge about policy, but this, curiously, is the factor that leads me to support you: because you're trying to learn about Wiki Policy, even going so far as to take notes. That displays great enthusiasm and interest, which I think will translate into a more active role with policy in the future. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 02:50, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Koharu Nami

I feel like I'm ready to be an admin (or at least a mod). Even if I'm not I'd like to take this chance and see what might happen. I know this place well and I take a lot of what I do here seriously. I'm on here every day and I know a lot about what goes on. I've dealt with many kinds of vandalism on the wiki and I try my best to be professional. I have also uploaded some needed photos and created a few articles. I do a variety of different things to help out. I'm pretty good at coding and figuring out how things work. I tend to notice things that other people don't. I'm friendly and I can help others when they need it. I'm very passionate with this website and I hope that I can help out more. Thank you. Koharu Nami 23:00, October 2, 2011 (UTC)

Oppose: I think you at least a year or two more of experience in my opinion. But don't give up. I'll say exactly the same to you as I did with Jimcloud. Jeppo (Talk | contribs) 11:36, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: You do have a long road ahead of you, and now is not your time. I can surely see you becoming a welcome addition to the staff as a moderator one day, though, if you keep up the good work. - +DeadlySlashSword+ 16:35, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Oppose: I think you should try to become a mod first, Koharu. Otherwise, I'd would agree. Don't give up. ^^ TwinlightEqua 18:31, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: I'm not entirely convinced that Koharu is ready to be an admin. However I would like to state that in recent times Koharu has been consistently on the wiki editing articles. An often overlooked, yet exemplary user, I wouldn't hesitate to grant the moderator rights to Koharu, but I don't feel Koharu's contribution to the wiki would be enhanced with admin rights than other users. 79.69.196.69 21:26, October 3, 2011 (UTC)
Comment: I'd be happy to discuss modding you after the admin elections. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 02:50, October 5, 2011 (UTC)

Comments

If no-one gets my references, I shall be very, very cross :p. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 00:32, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Well, be very , very crossed then! I do not get it unless it's Doctor Who or Doctor Strange! Cuz I don't know my shows or anything! >_< Xenomic 01:55, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

If you were going for subtle, you messed it up with "I thought his name was Ernest?" Like acup cake 14:09, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

Yuan earns +20 karma for the "good" example, and a further +10 for the "bad" example! Yuan levels up!... or at least, that will be the case once SacredMinotaur reappears, because he's not on the channel at the moment >_> -- Sorceror Nobody

16:07, September 30, 2011 (UTC)

In my defence, not many people would know The Importance of Being Earnest anyway. Which is a crying shame - everyone should go read that play.

@JBed: I've formatted your post so it can be more easily distinguished from other people's comments/supports/oppositions.

@Secret people: "Nominations only". Yup. :p

@Everyone else: Well, this is moving slowly. I thought after all that hubbub and frustration at admins blocking the promotion of new admins, there'd be a rather more marked display of enthusiasm. On the other hand, perhaps it shows how carefully you are considering this...right? ;)

I'm going to be away until tomorrow evening with little to no internet connection, starting very soon. I hope the nominations pick up in my absence. I'll drop a couple of names for your consideration here (NB: not necessarily a sign of my support for the candidate):

Drake Clawfang
Jimcloud
Kelt
ScatheMote
Xenomic

Cheers. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 00:31, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Ahh I am very flattered of being name-dropped but I am not running for this one. Some people are leaders, some quirky sidekicks, better not force a shoe that won't fit! I would like to nominate someone, but it is very hard to begin making a case for someone else...because imagine if you wrote a "bad" nomination for someone.Keltainentoukokuu 02:13, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Yuan, r we allowed 2 comment on other ppl's support/oppose/comments...? Or do we hav 2 make a first-level bullet and just say "in relation to the person that said this, i believe"? 79.69.194.3 10:42, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'm confused. It seems we can only support or oppose if you blank it out with a code so that nobody can actually read it unless they look at the page code. Is that a rule? --BlueHighwind 14:56, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Many, many people decided to vote before reading the end little part of Yuan's introductory post. 79.69.194.3 15:17, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

I'd prefer not to create a system which allows one to have an argument within it. You drop what you want to say, and if it's relevant to your support/oppose, then you can mention it. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 00:21, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Hopefully the Wiki will elect an admin who would be quick and quirky enough in the ways of Wiki Policy and Maintenance. You have all the other qualities listed in the "Lack of admin activity" forum in the recently elected sysops except these. I do seriously have hopes for the next sysop to be leaning more towards them. ^BLUER一番 22:15, October 1, 2011 (UTC)


		Xenomic TALK - 03:02, October 3, 2011 (UTC)



		I too am flattered that you would even consider me even with how rarely I'm even here Yuan. I don't think I should be up for the nomination however, in my humble opinion. As much as I still care for this wiki (yes, I still do to a degree even though I detest doing anything on here anymore), I don't think it'd be a good idea per say. Late reply is late for not looking at thread*

@Faethin: I was all in favour of agreeing with your new entry to the intro, until I re-read Yuan's comment "a lack of a vote is the same as being neutral.". I am not neutral, and yet all I have to say has been said. It would be appreciated if you could edit the first post for clarification. 79.69.196.69 19:46, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

Reading the full sentence, the meaning of Yuan's statement is absolutely clear. "If you are neutral on the matter, please don't just state "I'm undecided" - a lack of a vote is the same as being neutral." What she is saying, is, don't comment if you don't have anything to say on the matter; this isn't "the candidate with the most votes wins", it's "the candidate with the most to offer with the least drawbacks, as outlined by him/herself and others, gets the position." Yes? Jim clo ud 20:40, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

I understand how it works. Although having support votes shows a user is a favoured choice of the community, so that could be used as a factor if they wanted when deciding if they had wanted to do it like that.

Also, while I understand the context of the sentence, I read it and I still feel unclear. It's its own clause, and states that no vote means neutral opinion. But I won't go on, just that I interpreted it differently to how it was originally meant to be interpreted, and it could be rephrased to not suggest no vote=neutrality. 79.69.196.69 21:26, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

If you don't comment, then we have absolutely no way of guessing what your opinion is :p. I can only assume that you are neutral in some way: undecided, don't know the person well enough, don't care enough to comment. I've reworded it to make this clearer. — Yuan^Salut_Acta 23:26, October 3, 2011 (UTC)

I would love to vote and support users on becoming admin, but I won't participate. I don't think it is fair for me to vote, because I don't know some of the candidates well. I know you can vote for multiple people, but I don't find it fair. (And it's pretty illogical to vote for everyone...there's not point.) I could do research here and there, but given the time period, I can't. SquallRocks 00:56, October 5, 2011 (UTC)