Forum:Additional rights for Mods

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		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 04:17, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		I've been advised by a Wikia staff member that there is a way to grant certain capabilities to users who are not administrators. Several moderators have opined about the abilities that come with modship, which is currently limited to rollback. With community consent, several priviliges normally only available to administrators may be granted to moderators. These include: Ability to move pages and suppress redirects (move a page without leaving a redirect) Ability to move pages without a rate limit; i.e, move an unlimited amount of pages within any time interval Ability to move files These are all maintanance functions that can help moderators keep the wiki running more smoothly. Please comment below if you have feelings about this possible increase in mod priviliges or have other suggestions. Wikia can allow for bureaucrats to grant these rights to moderators if community support is shown. Comments by everyone are welcome, especially those of non-staff members. A full list of user group rights can be found here for consultation.

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Wholeheartedly supported. — Yuan^Salve!_Acta 04:22, January 4, 2010 (UTC)

		DrakeyC - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages... TALK - 04:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		Seeing as how I was the one who brought this up earlier today in the first place, I certainly vote in support of Mods being given additional move privileges.

		Hexedmagica - Rathalos: World Tour/All Ass Sword TALK - My companions' feelings have been etched upon this body. I'll change this eternal darkness into light! Heaven and Earth! One who matches the gods! CHOUGINGA GURREN-LAGANN! 05:05, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		I agree that mods should have more powers. It'll save us from poking the admins asking for help.

		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 05:18, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		I'm in support of the first two rights. I'm not quite sure if the third ability can be given without allowing mods to move a page over any edited page, redirect or no. Anyone can move a page over a non-edited redirect, but allowing moves over pages edited, not just moved, by other people is a bit much IMO. I'll ask on #wikia again. EDIT: Nope, it's either full deletion powers or nothing. I've replaced the "delete edited redirects" with "move files", allowing primarily for the renaming of misnamed files.

		Xenomic TALK - 05:32, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		I also agree with this. It'll give more reason for those who are mods to feel like that they actually EARNED being a mod, rather than just have rollback, but that's my personal opinion on that.

		Otherarrow - This is a Dragon. TALK - 10:50, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		I agree with this. The mods deserve to be able to use these functions, which are pretty useful.

		Diablocon - No, the question is; who art thou, ham planks? Shanks! I meant shanks TALK - 12:06, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		Finally, more functions we can grant. I always felt that simply granting Rollback wasn't much of a promotion, but these features certainly pack more punch (especially the redirect suppressor). In other words, support.

The three items listed are the three functions that piss me off because they're limited to only SysOps. Not being allowed to move three articles in quick succession? Well Rollbackers are clearly respectable members that aren't vandalising. Suppressing redirects saves time for the SysOps, since I know we have a harsh unwritten policy on redirects (that I practically invented ;3). And the ability to move files... well I'm not even sure why normal users shouldn't be able to do that apart from the whole "abuse" thing, but then that can happen with any function.

Suppressing redirects means Mods can get into the Deletion log too! ;)  ILHI ^{12:57, January 4, 2010 (UTC)}

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		ScatheMote - 20:41, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		Absolutely support. Suppressing redirects is a very useful function, and quick move is also very useful. Also, I thought normal users could move files. :P As stated before, this will at least make moderators less of an empty title and grant them some power (Actually, I should start a forum on Sardapedia about this as well :P).

		The Man In The Black Cape - Flectere si nequeo superos, Achaeronta movebo! TALK - The Man In The Black Cape 20:49, January 4, 2010 (UTC)
		I believe I was present when this issue was brought up on the IRC. It did not seem to me to be so much an issue of "Shall we give Moderators more powers?" as "Moderators currently have very few useful powers and the status is more ceremonial than practical; shall we change this?". Cutting to the chase, I too support this movement, inconsequential as my opinion may be. Yay, I'm participating!

TenzaZangetsu Special:Editcount/TenzaZangetsu January 4 2010 (UTC)  -   "Honestly, I think the world's going to end bloody. But it doesn't mean we shouldn't fight. We do have choices. I choose to go down swingin.": A simple question: We normal users can give our opinion in this Topic? If that's the case, I support this.

		Yuan 翠珊 — 23:24, January 4, 2010 (UTC) "He wants to write a love song / An anthem of forgiving / A manual for living with defeat"
		Everyone is encouraged to participate in community discussions. We like a full range of opinions.

		Crazyswordsman - Final Fantasy VI, because Drake says he wants to link to FF7 every day, which is bad because that game is so far inferior to FF6. TALK - 00:21, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		Support, support, support. It's a step up, after all.

		1stclasswarrior - Meus vita , meus diligo , meus lily of sanctimonia... TALK - 01:00, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		Support!!! (I might ACTUALLY want to work and edit now...)

		8bit BlackMage - Beyond the Sky TALK - Why do chemists call helium, curium, and barium 'the medical elements'? Because, if you can't 'helium' or 'curium', you... um... ._.; - 02:08, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		I messaged Wikia through Special:Contact earlier today with a link to this forum, so this may be confirmed soon. I think the bureacrats will be the only ones to know when these functions are implemented; the rights will be available to give out but not automatically distributed.

		Hecko Xtalk - blog - anime rants 09:13, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		Aboot tiem >____> *supports*

		Malevolence Crystalised - Yuanchosaan is now an ADMIN HURRAY!!! TALK - Congratulations Yuanchosaan!!!
		Wow im the only normal user Here O.O.... I Support this idea!

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		I've been watching this from aside for quite some time, and quite frankly, I'm pretty neutral towards this topi- The ability to move files!? Fuck yes.

		1stclasswarrior - Meus vita , meus diligo , meus lily of sanctimonia... TALK - 16:00, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		@Prinnyvolence: Nah, I beat you to it! I'm no mod. Back on topic: When these new powers arrive, why not make deserving people mods while we're at it? Saves a little time and trouble if I say so myself. An NO, this is NOT a self-nomination. I know I don't deserve modship.

TenzaZangetsu Special:Editcount/TenzaZangetsu January 5 2010 (UTC)  -   "Should I give you Despair?": Yeah but only one user will get the rights because he is the only who deserves it out of all the normal users.

		Yuan 翠珊 — 22:53, January 5, 2010 (UTC) "He wants to write a love song / An anthem of forgiving / A manual for living with defeat"
		Suggested on the IRC a few days back by me, and supported by 8bit, Faethin and Drake. We're awaiting Diablo's reply.

		DrakeyC - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages... TALK - 22:55, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		I thought I suggested it? 8Bit and I were talking in PM.....meh, trivial. Anyway, Diablo already replied here and voiced his support, Yuan. Currently most seem in favor.

		Yuan 翠珊 — 22:58, January 5, 2010 (UTC) "He wants to write a love song / An anthem of forgiving / A manual for living with defeat"
		I was talking about nomination Scathe for rollback, not the additional rights thing. Sometimes I hate talk templates.

		DrakeyC - Crossing the distant night...Wandering the desert sea...The gods' voices are mirages... TALK - 23:00, January 5, 2010 (UTC)
		Ah, my mistake. I'm petty, ignore me. ;p

I believe I suggested this actually. I suggested this very long ago. Although I think I was saying more along the lines of "Rollback's pointless, only if I/you could get into user rights and create user groups on Wikia." Actually, that might have not even been this wiki. Anyway, to 1st, no we don't need new mods, and Prinnyvolence kinda tells you why. We already have loads of mods. And also, with these new rights, some might say there's even less need for mods. Since we're even more powerful (*cue evil laugh*), it's closer to having 23 active SysOps. That would be crazy.  ILHI ^{23:03, January 5, 2010 (UTC)}

Lock+Labyrinth?  ILHI ^{11:14, January 6, 2010 (UTC)}