So, this is something that's been bugging me for a while since I started working on this Brigade project alongside Mecorx. There's a lot of images and a lot of abilities in the series, but how do we determine what goes where on what page? For instance, let's take Flare for example. We have Flare, but we also cover Kuja's Remote Flare there (which while it does use the Flare spells, is still a separate ability). This is just minor however compared to others like Firaga, Blizzaga, Thundaga, etc. (Firaga for example covers Firaga of course, but also Kefka's Waggly-Wobbly Firaga and Extra-Crispy Firaga, as well as Crisis Core's Dark Firaga and Hell Firaga). I understand the necessity of having like things on the same page, but in some cases like the Firaga examples, I feel they should be their own separate pages (if applicable. Obviously Kefka's Firaga spells wouldn't get separate pages, but Dark Firaga and Hell Firaga would due to being actual spells from Crisis Core and falls under that jurisdiction). Just thought I'd bring this up since there's quite a few other articles where things like this happen, some with even more random things on them than these. | |||
Since most of those mentioned are just Dissidia variants of the same abilities, I am unsure if they are worthy of pages. That said, it is policy to give an ability a page even if it only appears in one game, right? Either way, they contain the ability name within their name and are mostly just fancy ways to use the same abiliy, so I don't think they need splitting. Subpages, possibly? Is there any major problem we're trying to solve by splitting? | |||
- "it is policy to give an ability a page even if it only appears in one game, right?"
No. It very much depends. Crisis Core's Hell and Dark spells have a right to their own page alone even ignoring FFAB's existence, although it's existence definitely strengthens the argument.
Three ability appearances with the same name belonging to one character is enough for a page. So did we decide that Dissidia and D012 count separately or together? I imagine for this counter it would be together. And do we count FFAB towards that counter? I don't know what you guys have been doing in this department.
I don't think we would count FFAB to the 2 appearance counter. Maybe we should, but that would mean a lot more pages.
Remote Flare just doesn't need a page. "Remote Flare" would be a disambig between the Dissidia ability and the FFAB ability. I've noticed disambigs being added to without a link: We at least need a dummy link to the lists! JBed (talk) 16:31, November 26, 2014 (UTC)
Together-ish in the same sense that TFFCC are together with TFF; Dissidia 012 sections are just subheaders of Dissidia sections in most cases. I don't oppose the creation of subpages so much as I don't see why we're needing them to begin with. If it's for the FFAB thing, that makes sense. | |||
Well, Dissidia, Crisis Core, and Brigade were just a couple game examples. You also brought up Theatrythm, and I'm sure there's several other games that fall into this category as well (The Dark and Hell spells from Crisis Core only appear in Crisis Core right now, but again, due to our policy on every spell gets a page, they should have their own page. Things like Remote Flare and Kefka's spells are just variations of the spells, not the spells themselves). For the counters, I thought it was decided that the main game and the sequels/prequels to the games were counted as one (i.e. FFIV, Interlude, and TAY all count as one to the counter, same with DFF/D012 and TFF/TFF:CC)? That's what I've been going with anyways. As for the dummy links, yeah...I never thought of adding them before mostly because I didn't know what pages would link to where (for instance, Remote Flare I didn't know was an INT ability until recently because we didn't really have all of the data for Brigade until recently. That, and the ability pages were severely lacking in abilities...).
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