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I think linking to this page would be a good idea, but I can't think of a good link placement in the article.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 01:29, March 4, 2014 (UTC)

OCD[edit source]

What does "OCD" stands for? I can't find it anywhere.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 14:45, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

It stands for obsessive compulsive disorder. It is called that because that is our best reason for capitalising everything even where there is no reason to. JBed (talk) 17:09, September 27, 2014 (UTC)
If interested. But really it's something that I've been insistent on calling it and no one else. The shorthand I use to say the format of titles needs capitals in the places. JBed (talk) 17:22, September 27, 2014 (UTC)

"The" in Article Names[edit source]

So I took a glance at the "Locations" subsection and noticed there wasn't a mention of how we treat "The". Do we include it in article names or what? Some FFXIII locations use "The" in their location logos.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 02:13, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

I think the rule is to drop the "the". A location is two things: A gameplay area AND a place in the world (lore/story/world, whatever you want to call that kind of page). Even though we use gameplay-terms to name the article, those "The"s and stuff get dropped.
Because unlike enemies and missions, the focus of the article isn't just the location from a gameplay perspective. That's actually secondary.
I believe we had this discussion with "Pharos". IIRC that's "The Pharos" on the WM, but we dropped the "the". JBed (talk) 02:23, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
Keep it. The locations are named after what they are named in the game, precisely the same way as enemies are named after their display/bestiary name. There is no reason to remove the "The" from the name when there was a specific reason for it to be there. Also, if this is in regard to FFXIV dungeons, they are not locations in the sense that other locations are. They are instanced events.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 02:40, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
"There is no reason to remove the "The" from the name". I'll be repeating myself, I'm sure. But locations are not gameplay only articles. That's why we can be flexible with the name. The location naming scheme is fairly arbitrary and exists only for consistency; using in-game names just makes things easier. We can't always follow a consistent scheme across a game: Take the Great Crystal from XII which doesn't appear on the WM. But both Giruvegan and Great Crystal are "Location" articles regardless of their name source.
You can't be flexible with a gameplay-only article. The spell is called "The End" and there will never be an occasion where you shouldn't refer to it as "The End". With "The Pharos", in story and lore sections you'll call it "the [Pharos(XII)|Pharos]", and in gameplay, "[Pharos(XII)|The Pharos]". JBed (talk) 04:43, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
I don't like the "The" being there because then entries are no longer in correct alphabetical order in the category listings. And it's not how usual encyclopaedia entries are named either.Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 02:47, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
We can change the order of items in categories quite easily. -- Some Color Mage ~ (Talk) 03:51, June 15, 2015 (UTC)
That would please me then. :)Keltainentoukokuu (talk) 08:50, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

I think the policy should be simple: gameplay-only pages strictly keep the "The", pages referring to subjects in lore first and foremost do not do not. The former applies to enemy pages, list of weapons etc pages, and in this instance, FFXIV dungeons. The latter applies to locations, characters and event pages. It is important to note that FFXIV dungeons are gameplay-only pages as their sole purpose is covering the zone parties get through.

I would also apply this to the OCD titling rule but no one will go for that anyway let's be honest.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 16:31, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

So basically if there's a "Story" section then there's no "The" in the article name. If the article is purely gameplay and has no plot value it included "The". I got that right? Also, Kelt: we can use {{DEFAULTSORT:<Location>, The}} which is a simpler way for an article with multiple categories than [[Category:Final Fantasy <Y> Locations|<Location>, The]] unless some categories don't need such specific listing, but with {{DEFAULTSORT}} it would be just easier.—Kaimi (999,999 CP/5 TP) ∙ 17:14, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Speaking of DEFAULTSORT, can we stop sorting character names by their surname? it makes sense for real people but I don't think anyone will look for "Lockhart" in "L" section when they want to find Tifa Lockhart article. Monterossa (talk) 17:33, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Support 100%. JBed (talk) 17:45, June 15, 2015 (UTC)

Title Case[edit source]

Why does the Naming Policy refer to the rule as "OCD rule"? It is basically just title case, as opposed to sentence case.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 17:35, August 16, 2015 (UTC)

Nintendo Switch abbreviation?[edit source]

How do we abbreviate “Nintendo Switch” for any image files sourced from any FF game made for the Switch? ​‑‑SilSinn9801💬 06:49, February 25, 2019 (UTC)

NS is the abbreviation I’ve seen most of the internet use. Zalbaag (talk) 06:55, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
Just use "Switch", people will know what it means given how there's no way another company will make a console called "Switch" that's equally as relevant.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 07:00, February 25, 2019 (UTC)
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