Gilgamesh: Enough expository banter!
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TALK - I'm a user who works in the shadows, unpraised and unnoticed...
Just a question, what does 'rationale' mean?
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Adam mcduck - "Peace is but a shadow of death, desperate to forget its painful past...":
TALK - I'm a user who works in the shadows, unpraised and unnoticed...
So basically a logical image or an image that has a reason or a purpose, correct?

But what does that mean, only FF related stuff? (Not that I'd ever have any need to or will upload any non-FF pics)

So what's the policy on hentai?[edit source]

It's a no! please for the love of god do not post hentai and get yourself banned

More to the point what is Hentai? Jeppo 17:00, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
define:hentai. Although I wouldn't suggest Google Imaging it. ;)  I Lion Heart I 17:02, 16 January 2009 (UTC)
I wish I didn't ask, now. Jeppo 17:12, 16 January 2009 (UTC)

Youtube Channel[edit source]

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I Came, I Saw, I Shopped - 01:36, September 9, 2009 (UTC)
So who do I ask about getting the YouTube password? I thought I'd add videos of the EX Modes from Dissidia, since they were nice enough to put a movie feature in the game.

You said Hentai five times, in bold, and every other time a banned thing was told. Certianly got the point. Thats why someone uploaded 700 gigabites of it. Well, To say the least the hentai of any charecter is a corruptoin of it. ESPEICALLY with Cortana hentai of similar charecters. (shes a fricking hologram!!!) That should be the main policy regarding hentai based on charecters of FF. Besides being porn.Blade Master Ike 02:43, June 8, 2010 (UTC)

Videospace[edit source]

I'm confused how videospace (which is actually filespace, since Wikia merged them last week) works. From what I can tell, videos have a "provider" (that always seems to be YouTube...?) that hosts the videos. All the videos seem to be uploaded by Wikipedia says that IP 127.0 is used by devs and admins to perform behind-the-scenes tech work, etc., so what's it doing here? How does videospace work? Cat 22:52, April 17, 2012 (UTC) is a loopback IP address. You use it to test if a system has network-functionality. I would assume it's not actually the IP they're using, just the "mask" they use.*(that's in networking, but it looks like it has a wider use elsewhere)
I'm going to assume that it works by users inserting a URL of somewhere from another video provider, this then gets put on wiki, and therefore users on the wiki can easily link to it with [[File:[sensible file name]]]... or whatever. Therefore Wikia does not have to host the videos. Of course, the wiki still relies on the video provider to keep the video up.
But, if the video is used in multiple places, we can see where the video is used and either upload over the file, or replace all the video links because it says what they are.
I actually have no idea where you upload videos and I haven't done any research, so I don't actually know. 14:28, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
That makes sense. Which explains why every video I see that hasn't been uploaded by IP127.0 gets deleted — you can just use the youtube tag and save everyone a lot of hassle. The only problem with that is that it seems nobody but Bluer knows the FFWiki YouTube channel password, but you can always use your own channel. Cat 14:52, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
But putting it on wiki makes so much more sense. You can see where the video is used on wiki. It's like using photobucket images over uploading them to the wiki (other than the wiki not having 100% control over the video). 15:09, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
I guess. But do we use SECopyright or Screenshot for such videos? They don't seem to be licensed. Cat 15:14, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
We'd need to make a special "Gameplay" license or whatever. It would basically say how the game is copyright to SE, and the video-creator has allowed the wiki to use it. I don't know how copyright works. 15:27, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

(←)Hmm... YouTube says that you can only license a video as Creative Commons if the content is copyleft — obviously, Final Fantasy videos aren't.

However, by default videos are listed in the Standard YT License. A Google Search tells me this much about Standard YT:

you have the copyrights to all your videos.. it allows people to watch the video, but not copy or distribute or download it


Essentially, this means that the many videos we have here that are shown by FFWiki without permission are illegally used. I don't think they'll complain, but we are breaking copyright by doing this. At least, if I'm reading this thing right.

In other words, videos on the wiki should ideally only be uploaded by members of the wiki, or on the channel FFWiki. However, we have a great deal of videos.

Not sure what to do there. Cat 20:53, April 18, 2012 (UTC)

It means we should only upload videos to the wiki with permission. This means that you can upload your own videos, Xeno can upload his own videos, and we can upload videos contributed to the FFWiki channel (since the wiki has been given the contribute).
We shouldn't be uploading other's YT videos (we can use them as an external link/reference though). But really, this already applies. We shouldn't be embedding other's YT videos.
We also shouldn't really upload or embed videos of music. This is what we have 30sec music OGGs for. We also shouldn't upload videos of FMVs. If we want to show something, a frame, short animation, or cut-down version (showing only the relevant frames) should be used.
The videos we upload should be of gameplay. I think someone once explained to me that gameplay videos are fine since it's like an interpretation of a work. But still, it should only show what we are trying to show. As I imagine any video we upload does.
I probably said more than I need to. Bottom line is we should only upload our own videos, otherwise we need permission from the uploader. And this is also the case for embedding videos too.
The license itself is... probably Creative Commons? Given its an interpretation. It's not like frames of FMVs which SE designed... a user controlled Cloud who has that HP and MP in that battle to use that Limit Break at that time against those enemies. Would that still be Fairuse? The template should still explain its SE's game.
What license do we give to defiled pieces? Oh, fair-use according to Project:Media. 21:45, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
A quick Wikia Search through the fora brings me this, which is yet another reason to only use our own videos.
That's an insane amount of videos to get replacements for or ask the uploader for permission to use... adding to the To-Do List. This may never be completed. Cat 21:58, April 18, 2012 (UTC)
EDIT: Just discovered Help:Videos. So that's how videospace works (though it doesn't explain IP127.00, but that's beside the point). Cat 06:43, April 21, 2012 (UTC)
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Upload number[edit source]

"Please use the Upload form to upload single files, or Multiple Upload form for less than 5 files." What is that supposed to mean? You're not supposed to use all the spaces available in the Multi Upload form? I think that sentence should be changed - it's confusing. --Shockstorm (talk) 20:21, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

At some point it was only five file slots on that page. I'll just change it. --BlueHighwind 20:28, August 5, 2012 (UTC)

Battle of the Thousand Heart--err, Useless Images[edit source]

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I don't have much to add right now, but I will say something which is likely related: Template talk:Welcome#Changes-- whatever is on the Copyright Q&A and Images policy forum topics should be put into either this page or a child of this page. 13:59, January 6, 2013 (UTC)

Suggested fanart rewrite[edit source]

*Though fanart you made yourself can be hosted on the wiki, it should be categorized as [[:Category:Fanart]], and should be featured on [[Forum:The Blackjack|forums]] or user pages (not on article pages).
*If you want to upload fanarts, cosplays and images of notable fan-drawn comics, you must first obtain permission from the artist or writer. They own the copyright to their work, and using fanart does not qualify as fair use because it is not canon, and it is disrespectful to the artist. You may only upload it with permission from the artist which must be given in the upload summary and the [[:Template:Copyright|description form]] must be filled accordingly.
*Notable fanart and cosplay may be featured on articles in [[Project:Article Layout Guide#Related appearances sections|popular culture appearance sections]], but not in excess; one or two images to illustrate impact is often preferred. Articles solely pertaining to the subject may feature many more images if they are notable enough.
*If an image is uploaded without permission, templates {{tl|Copyright}} or {{tl|SD}} will be added to the image, and you will have to get permission to use the image or it risks deletion.

Everyone ok with this?--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 23:15, November 23, 2015 (UTC)

Should mention something about User Images used in articles (because by definition, they're not User Images, but that's what we treat them as), i.e. diagrams, sheet music, and other things. Cat (meowhunt) 23:20, November 23, 2015 (UTC)
What cat says. Jeppo categorised his graphs, and I my few VII maps, as Fanart. We use various other fanart on wiki. These fanarts used with permission (because the uploads are usually the users who created them) that illustrate something that is not illustrated in or as well by official works that we have on wiki can be used in articles.
Also I wouldn't say "fanart does not qualify as fair use because it is not canon" (whatever "canon" is supposed to mean in this case). To qualify as fair use we have to have a justification for needing the image that does not impede the author's ability to profit from a work. Simply, most cases where anyone would want to upload fanart won't constitute fair use. Though if we say wanted an image of Dion Roger's Rinoa to show what Dion Roger's Rinoa looked like, we could claim fair use on that since we know what we want to illustrate, and we can't illustrate it any other way. If someone drew a picture of Barbariccia and we wanted to use that as an illustration of Barbariccia, well that wouldn't go down well with fair use because there are other ways we could illustrate Barbariccia, and illustrate it better. JBed (talk) 00:12, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
Sounds like I just need to reword it to mention that that kind of fanart which illustrates a point is fine.--Magicite-ffvi-ios.png Technobliterator TC 00:32, November 24, 2015 (UTC)
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