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Queued

The following were archived and will probably eventually be put up as actual fights some week. They appear in no particular order.

  • Locke v. Zidane
  • Turn v. ATB v. Realtime
  • Zack v. Cloud
  • Garland v. Kuja
  • Basch/Gabranth v. Edgar/Sabin
  • Garnet v. Ashe
  • Balthier v. Auron
  • Tidus v. Squall
  • Vayne v. Seymour
  • Cid Highwind v. Cid of FFXII
  • Kain Highwind v. Ricard

HERE'S AN IDEA! LETS HAVE GOOD FIGHTS!

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Beatrix vs. Celes

Battle of the Women Generals.

Support

  1. ChiefKakashi 00:36, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. This fight would be badass.Moogle king 14:39, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. Crazyswordsman: Sure. Why not?
  4. Adam mcduck: I think it would be good.
  5. Khakishro: I think this is a great Idea, though I think Beatrix would win...
  6. Blackheart1991: I'm game for that.
  7. TheSwordofDoubt: I like the sound of it.

Reject

Comments

8bit_BlackMage: I don't reject this, I would love to see this fight, but Beatrix has already had a battle about a month ago. It will probably be another two months before this fight will even be considered.

Garland vs. Emperor Palamecia

Battle of the first two villains in Final Fantasy? The original two that are set as an example for later villains in Final Fantasy series. Oath to Order 05:02, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Support

Reject

Comments

Garland would win easily because nobody remembers/knows about/cares about Emperor Palamecia. No offense meant....just an observation. --Fyrmer

User:Henryacores:I would support this if it was Ultimecia vs Mateus Palamecia.

Terra vs. Zidane

A clash of the Trance-ers! Both are awesome characters with mysterious pasts, both goes into Trances that greatly increase their fighting power, and both have a dark connection to the antagonist of their respective games. Drake Clawfang 05:58, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

Support

  1. Very original--N/A
  2. Oath to Order 06:38, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. User:Henryacores: If Zidane may be a rip-off of dragonball, but he's much cooler than Goku or anyone else from DBZ.
  4. User:Kami strife: I like it. A fight like this would be pretty amusing.

Reject

  1. i like this idea but it might be one sided.alot of people love terra while zidane....people hate him because people thinks hes a ripoff from dragonball like another user said.Moogle king 14:42, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. Pablo618: I don't think there is a criteria over here :S every character in FFIX can trance so Vivi would fit a bit more than Zidane
  3. Crazyswordsman: Terra doesn't trance. She Morphs. Get it right.

Comments

Hell no. Zidane will always be much more badass than that friggin emo bitch.--N/A

Dueler X

Battle of the Skill Acquisition Tables

How about a battle between FFX's Sphere Grid and FFXII's Licence Board?

Support

Reject

  1. Both are crappy. --Alcaeus
  2. License Board kicks Sphere Grid's rectum. I hated all those locks on the Grid. --Airemir 17:59, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. Certain people here (like me) lack brain cells, and as such forget to vote for the best one - a.k.a. Sphere Grid. --Auron Kaizer 21:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. User:Henryacores: Yuck...Imagine the images that they would choose for this. Besides, Sphere Grid would kick Licence Grid's ass. Licence Grid doesn't give you half the bonuses that Sphere grid does.
  5. I flipped a coin and got tails.

Comments

Seifer Almasy vs Sephiroth

Gunblade vs Masamune

Support

Reject

  1. This is a horrible idea, although it would be amusing to see what would likely be the first shut-out victory in DNC history. Drake Clawfang
  2. Crazyswordsman: NO NO NO
  3. Siefer has no where near the fans or abilities to defeat sephiroth.
  4. NO WAY, Sephiroth has a better personality and is much cooler then Siefer.

Comments

seifer, obviously. sephiroth is cool and what not, but seifer has a better attitude

  1. User:Kami strife: Well, I like Seifer more, but Sephiroth would drop kick Seifer to Mars and back if they ever fought. He's just physcotically strong. Sorry, Seifer.

Gun-wielders: Barrett Vs Balthier

One's badass and the other is suave, both are packing (who wants to not give Balthier guns, really?). I think this is good because both are popular and it ain't one sided: ffvii fanboys can be easily outnumbered here.

Support

Reject

Comments

Itadaki-Yuna

battle of the weapons: sword vs. staff vs. gunblade!

hey what is the best weapon, eh? definitly gunblade!

Support

Gunblade's would so win because they have the longer blades so they they could hit you way before a sword could even touch you

Reject

  1. Boring and Gunblades are ridiculous weapons. Swords would win because staves are generally magic weapons. --Alcaeus
  2. Technically gunblades are gun-shaped swords.

Comments

CSM Vs BH

support

  1. Cloudofdarkness 14:42, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. No way in hell this is happending,because this will start a damn holy war.But i want to have front row seats of this theather of mass destruction anyway.Moogle king 21:05, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. ChiefKakashi 21:08, 12 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. I have to support this one since it isn't about FF. --Alcaeus
  5. Naruto is li3k s0 c00l l0l l00k at my us1rn4m3!!!!: It's like America vs. China. As long as both perish or become leper colonies, it's fine. I'm not even sure who I'd vote for...probably ChiefKakashi!
  6. Pablo618: VOTE!!!!!

reject

  1. Yay Im different. But seriously who cares. It's not like anyone will remember this in a centrillion years. Besides me of course, but Im immortal.

comments

CSM
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Seifer vs basch

Support

  1. I'd like to give this one a chance. -- ChiefKakashi 02:04, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. SCM: Cause I wanna see Seifer get his ass kicked

Reject

  1. Crazyswordsman: Too one sided. Anything with an FFVIII character would be one sided. Although I would like to see Basch kill Seifer.
  2. Basically what CSM said, too one sidedCloudofdarkness 03:44, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. You're completely loco. Basch will chop Seifer to bits. Gunblade or no. --Airemir 17:06, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

I couldn't find anybody person outside of ff8 that wouldn't be better.Seifer Gunblade 02:02, 13 March 2008 (UTC) well,maybe Vincent and Kimahri. Alot of fight wouldn't be one sided with FF8.

Triple Triad VS Tetra Master

Not sure if this one has been done but if not..then it's time! The best card games ever made fighting each other! Throw an Ark card and see if you turn the Squall card! So who wins, FFVIII's Triple Triad, or FFIX 's Tetra Master?

Support

201.6.145.188 13:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Reject

Cloudofdarkness 14:11, 13 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Knights of the Round VS Eden VS Ark VS Zodiac

The top summons of the FF PS era. Them all destroy. Them all rocks. Them all takes one, two minutes just to deal damage! So, who wins?

Support

  1. 201.6.145.188 13:54, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. I believe this idea was hawked off of my Sandbox, but I will support it. 8bit BlackMage 02:16, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. AK's 115th Dream: If you remove Zodiac (or his original translated name in FFT, Zodapop) since he really isn't part of Final Fantasy, sure.

Reject

Comments

Too many damn veruses!!!!

Battle of the Statue-Gods

How about a battle between the deities of VI and XII? Both (permanently or temperarily) took the form of statues, both caused their worlds more harm than good, and both's inner strugles were used by the main antagonist (Kefka took advantage of their petrification, Vayne took advantage of Venat's desperation). So, how about it?

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Zack versus Laguna

Neither one was the predominant antagonist of their respective game, but they both heavily influenced them. I think this would be interesting and not incredibly one-sided. --Blykus

Support

  1. I'll support this, since I came up with it. --Blykus
  2. I like laguna because i like FF8,BITCHES!

Reject

  1. NO NO NO NO NO LAGUNA IS A FUCKING MORON AND NO ONE LIKES HIM!!!!!! --Alcaeus
  2. One sided, for the above stated reasons.--Otherarrow
  3. See above. Although I'd vote for Laguna in this one. --Crazyswordsman 03:19, 14 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. Too many FFVII Fanboys for this to be fair.

Comments

Moogle
FFVI Terra Branford Menu iOS

A battle of Black Mages

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Completely one-sided. I mean Vivi won Magicite Madness and beat the greatest characters in FF history. To him, Kytes is nothing.
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Vivi vs. Aeris?

CSM

Support

  1. Duh. --Crazyswordsman 17:36, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. Zolo6 agrees!
  3. Nagato15 thinks this is a kickass idea!
  4. BlueHighwind I always am in support of any fight that will piss off a few fanboys.
  5. Alcaeus Hell, it's not like we're going to have a good DNC fight for a long time, so why not? Plus, I want to see Vivi kill Aeris.

Reject

  1. See the above fight'sreasons for rejection. Aeris may garner more support than Kytes, but there is no way she could beat Vivi. 8bit BlackMage 18:23, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. CSM obviously just wants to see Aeris get pwned. Vivi won MM, so this is overly one-sided. -- ChiefKakashi 18:27, 16 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. Vivi won Magicite madness, Aeris is hated here because she died. Obvious shut out. Cloudofdarkness 14:59, 17 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

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  • I'm choking over reject vote 4. Oh gods, that hurts. Question: why do people always question sexual preference when insulting someone? So strange... -- YuanchosaanSalutations! 11:43, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
Thank you Alcaeus, that was a blight on this wiki ^-^. Also, I think the rules are being revised, Blue has suggested that we limit the use of talk templates -- YuanchosaanSalutations! 11:49, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

FFXII villans fight

Vayne Solidor vs Cidolfus (Cid)

Support

Reject

  1. Nagato15
  2. Crazyswordsman: I...really don't see where this is coming from.
  3. Uh...NO. Just no.--Airemir 16:58, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Battle of the Ditzes

Holy Kain Artwork

support

  1. Azul 06:51, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. Zolo:Backs this up!
  3. >:3 07:12, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
  4. Crazyswordsman: I was gonna suggest this.
  5. AuronKaizer: Androgyny vs. Axl Rose? Hell yes.
  6. james.himbo:Two of my favorite characters! Hehehe
  7. Nagato:I really want to see that.
  8. BlueHighwind: Hate 'em both. But this isn't about me (for once).
  9. ARE YOU DEMENTED IN THE HEAD Oath to Order?! I love these two! GO GO GO GO GO! --Airemir 16:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
  10. SCM: Which one do I hate less...? Tough choice.
  11. ChiefKakashi: Despite the fact I want to see Balthier vs. Auron next, I want to spite OtO more. :)

reject

  1. Nobody likes Yuffie. Nobody likes Rikku. Oath to Order 00:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

comments

I have a feeling this will be next week's fight....it could be just me though. 8bit BlackMage 16:55, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

How come this fight wasn't picked? I'm not only saying this because it's my fight but it also only had 1 Reject vote and more Support votes than Edge and Shadow and any other fight suggested on here. If it was because of the coding I had it all on my sandbox page. Just click the italicised words on my opening statment. -Azul 05:11, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

CSM

Thanks CSM. I have since cooled down. Sorry for the whining. -Azul 07:41, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Imperial Cities Fight

A bit of an improvement of my last suggestion. How about we do a fight between two Imperial cities, Archades and Vector? Cactuar83File:Highwind.jpgHighwind 02:01, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Support

  1. Another FFVI rout. Sure, Archades has got +1,000,000 NPCs with their useless backstories and that completely enraging "sandalwood" quest, but Vector has...THE JUGGERNAUT BITCH! And that guy who tells the world's coolest backstory about Kefka. --Auron Kaizer 00:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
  2. User:Kami strife:I think this would be pretty amusing. Although it's not a typical bout between characters, something like this would be a nice change of pace.

Reject

  1. Zolo:Ok wierd idea?
  2. Quoting High Summoner Yuna, "Let's not."--Airemir 17:00, 22 March 2008 (UTC)
  3. I want characters to fight, not cities. -- ChiefKakashi 22:14, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

heros battle

Basch and Auron two of my favorites characters Basch (FFXII) vs Auron (FFX)

Pretenious Fruit

Redneck

  1. I wanna be a redneck Basch suppoter! -- ChiefKakashi 22:32, 22 March 2008 (UTC)

Comments

BlueHighwind TA
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Battle of Freaks in Armor

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Support

Both are half-decent characters, get to it. --Auron Kaizer 18:25, 24 March 2008 (UTC)

Reject

Comments

Gilgamesh from Chocobo to Mahou no Ehon
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tidus vs shuyin

woulded it be cool the dream vs the real one

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Axel vs. Reno

The Turk vs. the Flurry of Dancing Flames. Seriously, the resemblance is too close to ignore. The same color of hair, both have a weird mark on their faces, and they even have the same voice actors in English and Japanese. I mean, come on.--Mjka 04:14, 30 March 2008 (UTC)

Support

That would be cool. I was actually gonna suggest that fight but you bet me to it. It could be a little one sided for final fantasy players who have not played the kingdom hearts series may not know who Axel is and think he is a jerk, but it would be an amusing and fun battle (both have anger problems) ZatchD

  1. Khakishro: I'm ok with with this, but would everyone else be...

Reject

Comments

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Not a Fight. Just a comment

Holy Kain Artwork
Gilgamesh from Chocobo to Mahou no Ehon


Seifer Almasy vs Cloud

Support

Reject

  1. Hasn't every fansite from here to Timbuktu already done this one? --BlueHighwind
  2. User:Kami strife: I think that this would be pretty one-sided. Cloud all the way.

Vivi vs Balthier

The winner of Magicite Madness vs a guy who is worshipped by almost everyone here. -- Alcaeus

Support

  1. Balthier got beat out by Tifa in MM, so we never got to see this fight. -- ChiefKakashi 20:46, 2 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Yes, I like Vivi but this will be interesting to see what others think.
  3. I'd love to see this battle become a reality in the DNC. -- JARIITX 19:34, 13 April 2008 (EDT)

Reject

Comments

Sexy Black Mages

edea vs lulu for best female black mage -- Fonzyboi

Support

  1. Any fight with my girl Edea in it is A-okay in my book. --BlueHighwind
  2. This sounds good. -- ChiefKakashi
  3. newbie here. like to hear from u guys who's hotter -- Fonzyboi
  4. Interesting idea. Although Vivi is sexier. :D --Crazyswordsman 07:50, 4 April 2008 (UTC)
  5. This sounds like it could definitely go well. --Blykus 02:33, 5 April 2008 (UTC)
  6. VIII character's rarely get battles & Edea is one of the best, so why not. Adam mcduck
  7. Khakishro: Its orginal, and what Mcduck said is so true.
  8. This should be the next fight. 8bit BlackMage 23:47, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  9. Hell yes. Dark raven 19:40, 12 April 2008 (UTC)
  10. Sure, why the hell not? --JARIITX 23:30, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Reject

Comments

Yevon vs Venat

BATTLE OF THE GODS!

Support

  1. Interesting idea. --Crazyswordsman 05:46, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. I like it, a lot.
  3. If Chiefkakashi can vote on his/her own idea then so can I. Sorry for not knowing your gender, but Im new around here.

Reject

  1. Yevon is a false religion. The Church of Glabados is also a false religion. Shouldn't they be the ones fighting? --BlueHighwind 23:12, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Meh. -- ChiefKakashi 23:51, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

  1. Random, but how do you make a new section to suggest a fight?
  2. BlueHighwind is wrong. Yevon was the first summoner and the religion was inspired by him. Although his name is technically Yu Yevon. Sorry for not specifying that. Im immortal.

Tifa vs.Sephiroth

Not fanservice! These are the most popular VII characters (in the wiki...I think), so I want to see who will win. -- ChiefKakashi 23:21, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Support

Comments

Cid Highwind vs. Doctor Cid

BEHOLD THE BATTLE OF THE CIDS! Two Cids, but only one can be the best. So, who's it gonna be. It's all up to you.

Support

  1. ChiefKakashi 23:40, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

Reject

  1. This was already decided in the Sweet Sixteen. --Crazyswordsman 02:42, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Sora vs. Roxas

They may be the same exact person, but who do you like better. The optimistic, somewhat temperamental, gullible Sora, or the serious, more mysterious Roxas. Your choice.

Support

Reject

  1. This isn't the Kingdom Hearts Wiki. Plus Sora is the obvious winner. --BlueHighwind 23:48, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Go start a Hercules colosseum or something. --Crazyswordsman 02:44, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. I think that you guys are being a bit harsh. But you do have a point: this is a Final Fantasy wiki. --Kami strife 21:12, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

  1. Not my fault Kingdom Hearts Wiki doesn't have this. And I've only played FF12.

Member of SOLDIER vs. Sky Pirates

Both great fighters, SOLDIER with fighters like Cloud, Sephiroth, and Zack and the Sky Pirates with memorable pairs like Balthier and Fran, Vaan and Penelo, or solo pirates like Reddas.

Support

Reject

  1. ChiefKakashi 23:50, 6 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Far too broad. Try narrowing it down to less than 50 people.

Comments

Tifa vs Balthier

Guy who is worshipped by everyone vs girl who is worshipped by everyone (or there abouts.) YuanchosaanSalutations! 23:49, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

Support

  1. ChiefKakashi 23:58, 7 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Blykus 03:07, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. Kami strife 18:41, 8 April 2008 (UTC)
  4. JARIITX 23:27, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Auron vs. Basch

This has either been done, or I'm a genious...Probably the former. -- ChiefKakashi 21:38, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Support

Comments

Freya vs. Fran

They are both 'humanoids', one is a rat the other is a rabbit. It's rodent fight. -- VulpineNinja 11 April 2008

Support

  1. ChiefKakashi 05:53, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  2. Blykus 08:51, 11 April 2008 (UTC)
  3. Dark raven 19:39, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Comments

New Rules Suggestion

Okay, following on from Blue's suggestions, here's some suggestions for an "official" rule set:

  • 1 support column, 1 comment column; no rejects
  • No talk templates
  • Sign your suggestions/votes/comments
  • Don't vote for your own suggestion
  • Ignore the fights that you're not interested in
  • 5+ votes and it gets queued? (perhaps we should have a seperate page for queued fights?)
  • If a suggestion is there for 2 weeks without five votes, archive it. (Archive no votes at 1 week?)
  • No duplicate fights (unless it hasn't happened in more than a year)
  • New fights at the bottom (helps archiving)

Obviously, it needs to be ordered properly. Thoughts? YuanchosaanSalutations! 07:23, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

You might also put in: "TA has the final say in the selection of fights". All else, I support. [^_^]/ 14:02, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Reject

<3 --TacticAngel 18:18, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Apologies upon changing the format on suggesting fights

Itadaki-Cloud2

Agree on changing the format from Support/Reject/Comments to just Support. 8bit BlackMage 23:26, 6 April 2008 (UTC)

I agree with that, too. -- ChiefKakashi 23:59, 7 April 2008 (UTC)

To expand on my thoughts: The reject column is important. If there's no reject column, this isn't even close to a democracy. It would be like asking an undetermined number of people "do you like this idea" and get 5 votes and you pass. What if there are 100 of us? 5% equals yes? If we do away with the reject column, I can guarantee you that you'll see a queue longer than the bible pop up. Sure, the 'democratic' system we have now is just an illusion, but I'm pretty sure I would squarely ignore anything implemented that did away with distention. On the subject of archiving pages, if someone wants to sit here and do that, by all means, though you will destroy any concept of order we have here, and you know how I like order. The only thing I like on this list is that no one should use talk templates on this page. --TacticAngel 18:29, 9 April 2008 (UTC)

Agree with TA. We need a reject column. That much is pretty obvious to all. Comments I can live without, but I need to reject the really bad ideas. --BlueHighwind 19:06, 9 April 2008 (UTC)
Thats more like it, more input. Like Nelo pointed out, Support/Reject columns are making this suggestion page a DNC of its own. Truth be told, TA, you can't handle the list because to follow those suggestions you'd have to spend more time here, and you've been more out than in lately. If all else, Support/Reject sections can serve as a Comment section on its own. [^_^]/ 07:19, 10 April 2008 (UTC)
My house burnt down... I do what I can, but I've little access to the internet and less time than normal. I've resolved myself to handle the DNC as much as possible since thats one of the things for which I am known, not so much because I started it, but because when the DNC functionally was dead, I revived it. This democracy thing is a hoot. Seriously, 5 votes? Really? Rikku got 50+ votes. Not counting Yuffie voters, thats less than 10% carrying an affirmative vote. Deleting information from pages? Vandalism? Both of those are obviously really bad ideas if you want to say viva la revolution. If you want things the old way, thats fine. I don't think that the trip we've been on has improved anything. The last two fights were slaughters. --TacticAngel 03:18, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

Gabranth vs. Golbez

This idea just came to my mind. Two evil brothers of main characters. Two badass knights. And it's not as one-sided as some recent fights. Dark raven 11:05, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

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