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#Now, now. Stop insulting the FF girls. It's not their fault Vaan is a girly man. [[User:Draga|Draga]]
 
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#Here's a tongue twister of a title for this fight if it passes. It'll be the "Final Fantasy Femme Fatale Fatal Five-Way!" Let's just hope the higher-ups of the DNC give this one a nod for the guys. --[[User:JARIITX|<font color="#0000FF">'''Tex'''</font>]] <sup>[[User Talk: JARIITX|<font color="#000000">'''HOWDY!!!'''</font></sup>]] 22:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
   
 
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This talk page has the purpose of helping to select what will eventually be our semi-weekly competition. If you would like to make a suggestion, please feel free to leave it here. If you would like to see what people have suggested in the past, please refer to this page's archive.


Queued

The following were archived and will probably eventually be put up as actual fights some week. They appear in no particular order.

  • Beatrix v. Celes
  • Yiazmat v. Penance
  • Firion v. Bartz
  • Seifer v. Kadaj
  • Celes v. Tifa
  • Gabranth v. Golbez
  • Ultros v. Gilgamesh
  • Vincent v. Balthier
  • Basch/Gabranth v. Edgar/Sabin

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Emperor Mateus Palamencia vs Vayne Carudas Solider

Two masterminds and they won't just die.~Zack2222

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Reject

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Buster Sword vs Revolver

Two iconic swords. ~P.M.

Support

Reject

Comments

Adelle vs Yuffie

Two girly thieves. ~P.M.

Support

Reject

Comments

Benjamin (Mystic Quest) vs. "Boy" (Adventure)

Will anyone care? Let's at least find out...

support

reject

  1. I care enough to see that it never leaves the talk page. Does that count? Drake Clawfang

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DC, I knew you'd take the bait. RowdyCMoore

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Steiner Vs. Tidus

Shining knight in armor from an underated game or overated and hated tricky swordsman?

support

reject

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Zidane Vs. Cloud

Monkey-tailed Angel of Death or Mako Soldier w/ ones dreams?

support

reject

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Barret vs Steiner

Because they weren't given any attention...? I though of giving them a chance. I mean, both have some sort of temper. Barret is the founder of Avalance and Steiner is the Captain of the Pluto Knights. Barret took the responsibility to take care of Marlene, while Steiner takes his job to protect Garnet very seriously.

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  1. VN: Oh well...
  2. Barret needs some more lovin'... --AvaGirl

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Garland Final Fantasy IX vs Cid Fabool IX

Both Lords of realms. Both beset by betrayal. Both creators of exquisite inventions that changed the world. Both helpful in an attempt to destroy a greater evil. Yet as alike and similar as they are lies the greatest of differences. Whom of these majestic Kings does thou think bests the other?

Support

  1. It was my Idea. Corrino
  2. Gwok, Gwok

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Comments

Garland would blow cid outta the water. He's a horrible boss but cid isnt even a fighter. Not to mention, Garland isn't a skirt-chasing pig.

Larsa vs Arc

Arc was the only person I could think to put Larsa against. Anyhow, they look similar and I haven't seen either in a fight... When you think about it, a real fight between them would be interesting to see. :]

Support.

  1. I like it! I haven't seen anyone from III on this yet.
Ilike the idea too. It's about time for FF III to have some fights. even though the match up is a bit random

Reject.

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Galbadia vs Esthar

The military superpower and the futuristic recluse.

Support

  1. Squallinoa_08:Too coolest cities in Final Fantasy VIII, so shut up BlueHighwind you overrated FFVII fanboy!!!

Reject

  1. FFVIII fight. --BlueHighwind 12:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Tifa vs Aeris

I thought I put this up before but it disappeared. Anyways, Cloud and Zack got their battle, why not them? --VN

Support

  1. Duh --VN
  2. I don't see why not. It's a debate as old a FFVII itself.
  3. This has to happen one day, whether we like it or not. --BlueHighwind 12:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. True that. --AvaGirl
  5. Needs to be resolved one day, bit unoriginal though Terra_Homing

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  1. Meh, I won't vote (because I haven't played VII yet), but it sounds good. Cloudofdarkness 03:54, 11 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. Support because it has to happen one day, but I fear Tifa's breasts will carry her to victory on the shoulders of her perverted fanboys... Drake Clawfang

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Comments

And Aeris doesn't have her own perverted fanboys? Or is someone just bitter because Tifa's perverted fanboys beat out Rydia's perverted fanboys? RowdyCMoore

President Shinra vz Vinzer Deling

Two crazy tyrants who did nothing but get themselves killed.

Support

Even though I like FFVIII, we all know Rufus will win. And I said I still like FFVIII BlueHighwind so STUF!

  1. Is this referring to Rufus or his father? It seems to me like it's his father and if that's the case I think it would be a much closer match.

Reject

  1. They're both losers. Shinra is nothing compared to Rufus, and Deling lost even to Kaczyński. Dark raven
  2. Wasn't Deling one of the two characters to die in FFVIII? That game had a pitiful death count. It was worse then a Disney Movie. --BlueHighwind 12:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)
  3. Ya who do you mean. BlueHighwind you just made it into my quote book!

Comments

Regent Cid vs Cid Pollendina

The Cid's who loved to make life easier for you to get from A to B.

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Zantetsuken vs Excalibur

Two powerful attacks that come at random to save your party.

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Excalibur vs Masamune

Those two weapons are practically everywhere, from the first Final Fantasy to one of Gilgamesh's hands (Excalibur)/Sephiroth's left hand (Masamune) to spin-offs. But which is better, the knightsword or the katana? ~P.M.

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Comments

The Excalibur is always stronger than the Masamune. B(

Draga FYI, Gilgamesh has the Masamune as well as Excalibur, and it seems to do more damage as far as I can remember.

Tellah vs Galuf

Two amnesiac old men who set the standard for sarificial deaths within the series.

Support

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. why not.
  3. Blykus 03:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. Pablo618: Best fight ever, it totally gets my support
  5. Moglet Galuf will win boi
  6. Draga It's got my support. Attack of the Zimmer Frames!
  7. Azul Hey, when I suggested this fight, no one voted for it. >:P
  8. I love the idea.

Reject

  1. I hate Tellah and I don't know the other dude. :P
  2. Most of the cast of FFII set the standard for sacraficial deaths.--Muchomas35 23:32, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
  3. Tellah will get his ass handed to him. Cloudofdarkness 02:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. I think Galuf will win this by a long one.
  5. I just don't care about either one. BORING!!! --BlueHighwind 18:41, 8 July 2008 (UTC)
  6. Ditto to BlueHighwind. Two of the worst final fantasy characters in my book. If you're gonna make an old guy a playable character, might as well make him cool --Firionklauser

Comments

I don't know if Galuf is the sure winner of this one. Each character is liked by alot of people. -Azul 03:09, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

General Leo vs Cecil

The pseudo-Paladin vs the True Paladin.

Support

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. why not.
  3. okay VN
  4. Sure
  5. I wanna see cecil eat leo alive --Firionklauser

Reject

  1. Everyone will vote on Leo-Henryacores 16:23, 24 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Ultros vs Gilgamesh

Two recurring troublemakers, but more importantly, the administrator of the DNC steps into the arena to fight.

Support

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. Fyrmer
  3. NOW WE FIGHT!! --BlueHighwind 19:14, 13 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. Now we fight like men! And ladies! And octopusses! Dark raven
  5. Eight arms vs. six swords! Brilliant.
  6. YuanchosaanSalutations! 10:16, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  7. The battle of the comic relief. --Lycentia 04:51, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
  8. Blykus 03:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
  9. Yes!!! 8bit BlackMage 16:18, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
  10. NeoBahamut--NeoBahamut 16:41, 21 June 2008 (UTC)
  11. Gilgamesh WILL win, but why not? Cloudofdarkness 02:08, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
  12. Pablo618:Just to see ultros's octopus ass kicked
  13. Because I like boiled octupus, and master Gilgamesh will feast on it! -Henryacores 16:24, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  14. Utopian Heretic Not that Support needs the well... support, but I wanted my name on here.
  15. Draga Gilgamesh would win. His battle theme owns all. That said, Ultros DOES have Typhon on his side...
  16. Corny jokes vs The phony sword master. Sounds like fun.
  17. Gilgamesh pwns. --AvaGirl
  18. IT'S MORPHING TIME!!! -JARIITX 04:35, 2 July 2008 (UTC)

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Jenova vs Zemus

They came (from space), they saw (a world to be destroyed), they conquered (through someone else many years later). The aliens of the FF series that were overshadowed by the superior, dark-cloaked villains of their games.

Support

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. Southgale Shure why not have the aliens duke it out with thier fans. Lets see if aliens can infact control minds by how many people vote for them. I know Zemus has my mind as he did that of Golbez (Insert evil laugh of your chosing here)♥♥♥♥♥
  3. Im pretty sure jenova will win but i still like it.
  4. Blykus 03:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
  5. Pretty creative -Henryacores 16:25, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  6. I likes it. 8bit BlackMage 20:10, 4 July 2008 (UTC)

Reject

Comments

We actually had this one, sort of. It was Zeromus v Jenova, Zeromus won.

Genesis vs Auron

two great swordsman

Support

This could work, i mean it is pretty equal and i'd like to see who wins, the warrior monk or the missing first class soldier??

Reject

  1. Pitting Auron against a tedious little pretentious fool like Genesis would just just be an insult to the best character of FFX. --BlueHighwind 16:39, 14 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. ChiefKakashi 03:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
  3. The contenders in these fights usually have quite a few similarites. The only ones I see with Genesis and Auron are, as you said, they're swordsman and they wear red. That's it. -Xahten 11:41, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
  4. Draga Auron=Badass. Genesis=Lameass. No competition, Auron pwns Genesis.

Comments

Axel vs. Reno

The supporting redheads!

Support

  1. For those of you who say only FF characters, check the archives. I seem to distinctly remember Crono v. Sora. I think it's a good idea.
  2. I think its a great idea. They both come across as smart asses too.
  3. I'll agree with the above. They were also both voiced by the same person. Interesting to see the results
  4. I think KH has been done before... and I mean, this fight would be awesomeee. --AvaGirl

Reject

  1. Was Axel in any FF game? NO! Dark raven
  2. This is for FF characters only. Spin-offs, off-shoots and related titled like Kingdom Hearts are inelligible. Drake Clawfang
  3. Pablo618:Stupid idea
  4. I realize KH characters are (supposedly) allowed, but since this is the FF Wiki, I think we should try to stick to FF characters. MissRora
  5. No KH/FF cross over fights.

Basch vs. Balthier

I totally forget if this has been done before... --ChiefKakashi 03:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)

Support

  1. ChiefKakashi 03:44, 15 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. It sounds good. I just hope Balthier wins if it happened. Haha. Vanishing Star

Reject

  1. Sorry Chief, it's been done before -- YuanchosaanSalutations! 06:07, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Tifa Lockhart vs Zell Dincht

to me this would be a great match two characters of the monk class and two martial arts experts.

SUPPORT


REJECT

  1. Tifa will win because she has boobs. That and no one seems to like Zell.
  2. MissRora

Xande vs Exdeath

The two main villains who were defeated by class-changers. I think it is a good idea.

Support

  1. Blykus 03:39, 20 June 2008 (UTC)

Reject

  1. . Xande is just a greedy bastard.--Muchomas35 15:10, 17 June 2008 (UTC)

Auron vs Basch

They're both kickass swordsman with a devotion to their white mage.

Penance (FFX) vs Ozma(FFIX)

Battle of the insanely tough things that you spend 120.3 hours to beat! I think it would be a real blokbusta match! Dont think any1 gone this big!

Support

haha it would be awesome! go the floating beach ball! Dueyinthemiddle 10:47, 8 July 2008 (UTC) GO Giant Bouncy Ball of Doom!!!!

Reject

MissRora

Revisit - Montblanc vs Mog

They went head to head Week 45. After so many new users have joined and perspectives have shifted, i think the main Moogles should step back into the arena for a rematch. As it was it was close last time (Monty won 29 to 25), this wouldn't be a bad fight to have again.

Support

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. Draga-Mog is a slam dancing, terrain controlling moogle with a spear. Montblanc has Vaan's and/or Marche's party backing him. An epic fight for the ages.
  3. And Montblanc would win again (I hope!). --AvaGirl
  4. CoD Yes

Reject

  1. I just don't think it would change much, if at all. MissRora

Comments

Kadaj vs. Genesis

two short-lived villains of the FF7 compilation. why don't we make it.. who's cuter in your opinion?

Support

Reject

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. Lame Sephy wannabe vs. Lame Sephy wannabe. MissRora
  3. Who is cuter? That one is obvious. I am. Why even bother with this crap then? --BlueHighwind 00:27, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

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Clouds Of Darkness Vs. Necron

Both are the insane final god-villans bent on destroying all of existance, sliped in at the last moments of the game, and have given us all trouble in thier fights.

Support

  1. Yay!--Muchomas35 14:55, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. Blykus 03:40, 20 June 2008 (UTC)
  3. I wonder who I'll vote for... Cloudofdarkness 02:06, 22 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. Oh, you have no idea how many times I lost to the Cloud of Darkness. 3. But when the Final Dungeon was that long, that took me three days to beat. --BlueHighwind 00:28, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

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Balthier vs. Zack

Ivalice's sweetheart against the hero of Midgar(yeah, can we say he became a hero? :cries:)

Support

  1. I think both have a decent nubmer of fans. I would want to see this one.
  2. It would sweet to see... Definitely a battle of the fans, since Balthier never really did anything that could possibly compare Zack's greatness. --AvaGirl
  3. The "leading man" against the man that ensured FFVII would happen. Pretty certain Zack would win, but it'd be fun to watch. -Xahten 03:02, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
  4. I want to see Zack beat the "almighty" Balthier...
  5. ChiefKakashi 19:16, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
  6. Thats a tough one. Although I think everyone is so crazy about FF XII that Balthier would win.
  7. Support, but at a date past September. Balthier fought recently and Zack a few weeks before him. Drake Clawfang

Kaiser Dragon vs. Shinryu

The Super Boss Kaiser Dragon fighting against the Legendary Super Boss Shinryu. Who will win. A fight to go down in history.

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Cloud & Aeris vs. Tidus & Yuna

The world's greatest couples ever!

Suport

Reject

  1. Reject, because A - Cloud and Aeris would win because no one likes Tidus and Yuna, and B - this would start a debate over the love triangle and people demanding Cloud be paired with Tifa. Drake Clawfang
  2. Reject because, this would only lead to more people requesting more couples matches, and that's not what this is for. MissRora
  3. No matter how hot Yuna is, Tidus is still a whiny son of a shoopuf. Draga
  4. Cloud & Aeris or Cloud & Tifa can kick Tidus's & Yuna's ass! What Bout Squall & Rinoa?

Comments

General Leo vs. General Beatrix

Two kick-ass generals in the enemy army who betray their commanders and become temp party members. And face it, Leo's a Paladin, so he should face another Paladin in battle.

Support

  1. Drake Clawfang
  2. Blykus 02:26, 23 June 2008 (UTC)
  3. Yay! -Henryacores 16:28, 24 June 2008 (UTC)
  4. This would be a battle royal! Great abilities facing off against each other. - Indalecio

Reject

Squall and Rinoa vs. Cloud and Tifa. Now THAT would be a good battle.

Comments

Vivi Orunitia vs. Black Mage Evilwizardington

The two most popular Black Mages in Final Fantasy: Vivi Orunitia, from Final Fantasy IX, versus Black Mage Evilwizardington, from 8-bit Theater! The ultimate showdown! Who will win? We'll only know if this one is more supported than rejected!

Your thoughts on this showdown? --Arceus3000 02:21, 23 June 2008 (UTC)

Support

Reject

  1. Mr. Evilwizardington is fan material and not eligible for a match here. Drake Clawfang

Comments

The Orko lookalike should be banned from the DNC. He wins all the freakin' time.

Final Fantasy VI vs. Final Fantasy VII

the two most popular games in the series. I wonder which wil win.... (cough cough FFVI)

Support

I think it would be great fun! would fire up some awesome arguements as per usual. Dueyinthemiddle 10:52, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Reject

  1. No no no and a hundred times over no for the exact same reason we don't need another Kefka vs. Sephiroth match. No. Drake Clawfang 05:05, 26 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. Game fights are forbidden. --BlueHighwind 12:17, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

RowdyCMoore How about we just put the FF6 obsessed fans and the FF7 obsessed fans in a locked room together and be done with it?

Seymour vs. Sydney

The two evil invincible religious cult leaders.

Support

  1. Sydney's awesome!! Ylc0304 13:17, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Reject

  1. Who in the world is Sydney? --BlueHighwind 00:25, 28 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Cloud of Darkness vs Zeromus

What about Cloud of Darkness vs Zeromus- the two final bosses from Final Fantasy III & IV.--Parivir, 5:30PM, 6/27/08

Support

This fight should happen, it would be interesting to see.

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Comments

Worst Idea Ever: Five Way of BlueHighwind's Favorite Gals

Five is a great number, these five are great characters, but mostly only to me, BlueHighwind: Beatrix vs. Tifa vs. Edea vs. Yuna vs. Fran. A self-indulgent formatting nightmare. Any objections [support]?

Idiots Who Think This is a Good Idea

  1. But of course. --BlueHighwind 00:32, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. Draga WOOOOOO! Cat fight!
  3. why not
  4. Haha. Dark raven
  5. This officially has the CoD approved seal (yet to be made) CoD
  6. SCM (I have to put my vote in front of ChaosEsper to keep the list in tact.)
  7. 5-way girl fight? Why not? Wait.. You forgot Vaan- ChaosEsperVII
  8. Now, now. Stop insulting the FF girls. It's not their fault Vaan is a girly man. Draga
  9. FFFFFFAAAAAAAAAANNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIICCCCCEEEE!!!!!!!! --ChiefKakashi 19:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)
  10. Here's a tongue twister of a title for this fight if it passes. It'll be the "Final Fantasy Femme Fatale Fatal Five-Way!" Let's just hope the higher-ups of the DNC give this one a nod for the guys. --Tex HOWDY!!! 22:08, 18 July 2008 (UTC)

Realistic Fellows

  1. No Aeris or Rydia? No approval. :p Drake Clawfang 01:39, 28 June 2008 (UTC)
  2. Seconded.
  3. RowdyCMoore Don't even know most of these. Make it Tifa Rydia Celes Yuna Aeris and you may have something.
  4. Where's Aeris, Refia, Penelo, or Rydia? Aren't they important?- Parivir
  5. BH and you say my fights are stupid.-Zolo
  6. Then we'd also need a five-way fight with guys. ;] If we get one of those, then I support. XD --AvaGirl10Roses

Commentary

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Fahrenheit vs. Strahl

The ancient machina airship recovered from the bottom of the ocean or the fast and maneuverable sky pirate ship? -Xahten 12:15, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Support

Reject

  1. I never liked the FFX Airship. --BlueHighwind 12:14, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Comments

Leon vs. Gabranth

The right hand men of their respective emperors. The dark knight who betrayed his friends or the judge magister that parallels Darth Vader? -Xahten 12:16, 30 June 2008 (UTC)

Support

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Emperor Mateus Palamecia vs. Exdeath

The Rulers of Two different games that are also Final Bosses of there games.

Support

  1. I thought Emperor Palamecia was a good villain and a tough ending boss as the Emperor of Hell (that is unless you had the blood swords, then it was over in two turns). -Xahten 02:57, 1 July 2008 (UTC)
  2. Why not? the two main baddies from not-so-appreciated FFs need more spotlight---Firionklauser
  3. Exdeath is a nasty villain who had much more power than people give him credit for. About time he got a day in the sun for him to photosynthesize.(snicker) Anonymous

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Gilgamesh vs. Garland

Allright here's my idea! Gilgamesh vs. Garland! Two villains who are both famous, as well as awesome beyond all reason! Lord Xale 18:51, 1 July 2008 (UTC)

Support

gilgamesh ftw

Reject

Comments

Triple Triad vs Tetra Master

Support

why not, see which of the these two mini-games are more popular

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The World of Ruin(Final Fantasy VI) vs. The Merged World(Final Fantasy V)

About the ruined world. And the world reunited when the crystals were destroyed. What of the two worlds do you like more?

Balthier vs. Cid Highwind

Both loved characters, both dominators of the skies.

Support

  1. ChiefKakashi 19:19, 6 July 2008 (UTC)

Reject

Comments

Kefka vs. Garland

Two of my favorite antagonists in the series. Thought i would sugest it.  :)


Support

Reject

  1. It's Kefka, a handful of villains would stand a chance against him or Sephiroth in the ring. Garland is not one of them. Drake Clawfang

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  1. One Garland is a wimp from the worst FF game. The other is from FFIX, which I haven't played. So sadly, I have to agree with DC on this one. RowdyCMoore

Comments

Gilgamesh vs. Chaos

Okay, it's like my previos idea, but that's only because I just now came up with it and thought that it was better...Lord Xale 17:39, 8 July 2008 (UTC)

Support

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Cloud vs. Squall

I really don't know what the outcome would be. It's too hard for me to decide...so why not get everyone else's opinion? We all know they have this rivalry thing going in Kingdom Hearts, but they never battle...so who would win?


Yay

  1. I'm pretty sure this has been done before, but if it was a while back, it is a good idea to bring it up. Cloudofdarkness 05:06, 13 July 2008 (UTC)

Nay

  1. Squall would get his ass handed to him, not only because Cloud is superior, but because so many hate Squall and would vote against him regardless of who he was against. Drake Clawfang

Comments

Superboss Battle: Enuo (FFV) vs. Omega Weapon (FFVI)

== Superboss Battle: Enuo of FFV Advance versus Omega Weapon of FFVI Advance.

Aye or Nay?

Aye?

Nay?

Comment? ==

I'd go for Figaro because of Sabin, when i played 6 he could do maximum damage x8 at Lv. 56